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it's a trap. don't forget the sand wedge.

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I do like the image and believe you are onto something. Were there two holes there or just the one in the image?

[goldilocks]

May 31, 2020 11:40:48 GMT -5 witness said:

Forrest has said (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that:

-no one's going to stumble upon the chest

-you don't need special equipment (maybe a flashlight and gloves, but no shovel)

-a person can only dig down about two feet by hand

-a metal detector will help, if you know exactly where to look

I conclude it must be buried, not more than about two feet. Other statements suggest that he believes if you can find the blaze, you can find the chest. So, if it's buried, then it has to be either so close to the blaze that it's unmistakable, or else there are further instructions after "look quickly down." Since they don't appear to exist within the poem (at least in the 9 clues, as F has said that's the last one), it must be that such instructions are on site, where a physical presence is required, as are imagination and adaptability.

Assume:

-Everything F has said on record about the Chase is true. (There are more subtle hints than misdirections, and no subterfuge.)
-There are helpful hints in the scrapbooks, particularly F's comments at the beginning or end, and particularly those posted to Dal's site late last summer.

-A certain searcher doesn't have / hasn't read TFTW or OUAW, so these might contain info that would be useful which he is not aware of.

-The clues in the poem are simple and straightforward, so it stands to reason that anything that follows them is probably equally straightforward or at least doesn't require extra imagination.

-All 9 clues have been solved correctly.
-Digging at the location of the chest is difficult and time-consuming, practically necessitating a precise interpretation of the final instruction.

-Someone who solved the clues wouldn't be posting here if he could manage such an interpretation on his own.

-The command to look quickly down leads directly to this:

imgur.com/OSrla0l

Given all that, what do you make of the image? All constructive ideas are welcome. The best ones may be rewarded.

I need more context - how far from the ground was this taken? All I see is lichen on a rock...

[crm114]

May 31, 2020 11:40:48 GMT -5 witness said:

Forrest has said (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that:

-no one's going to stumble upon the chest

-you don't need special equipment (maybe a flashlight and gloves, but no shovel)

-a person can only dig down about two feet by hand

-a metal detector will help, if you know exactly where to look

I conclude it must be buried, not more than about two feet. Other statements suggest that he believes if you can find the blaze, you can find the chest. So, if it's buried, then it has to be either so close to the blaze that it's unmistakable, or else there are further instructions after "look quickly down." Since they don't appear to exist within the poem (at least in the 9 clues, as F has said that's the last one), it must be that such instructions are on site, where a physical presence is required, as are imagination and adaptability.

Assume:

-Everything F has said on record about the Chase is true. (There are more subtle hints than misdirections, and no subterfuge.)
-There are helpful hints in the scrapbooks, particularly F's comments at the beginning or end, and particularly those posted to Dal's site late last summer.

-A certain searcher doesn't have / hasn't read TFTW or OUAW, so these might contain info that would be useful which he is not aware of.

-The clues in the poem are simple and straightforward, so it stands to reason that anything that follows them is probably equally straightforward or at least doesn't require extra imagination.

-All 9 clues have been solved correctly.
-Digging at the location of the chest is difficult and time-consuming, practically necessitating a precise interpretation of the final instruction.

-Someone who solved the clues wouldn't be posting here if he could manage such an interpretation on his own.

-The command to look quickly down leads directly to this:

imgur.com/OSrla0l

Given all that, what do you make of the image? All constructive ideas are welcome. The best ones may be rewarded.

My first impression is that if that's a rock outcrop or big boulder, then that's not it. Forrest has said that something you probably haven't thought of should be obvious, if you're at the right spot (paraphrasing). What is that?

I'm not aware Forrest ever said you can't dig deeper than 2 feet by hand. I'd have to review what he's said about tools, but I'm not sure he ruled out shovels.

[chesttroll]

May 31, 2020 11:40:48 GMT -5 witness said:

Forrest has said (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that:

-no one's going to stumble upon the chest

-you don't need special equipment (maybe a flashlight and gloves, but no shovel)

-a person can only dig down about two feet by hand

-a metal detector will help, if you know exactly where to look

I conclude it must be buried, not more than about two feet. Other statements suggest that he believes if you can find the blaze, you can find the chest. So, if it's buried, then it has to be either so close to the blaze that it's unmistakable, or else there are further instructions after "look quickly down." Since they don't appear to exist within the poem (at least in the 9 clues, as F has said that's the last one), it must be that such instructions are on site, where a physical presence is required, as are imagination and adaptability.

Assume:

-Everything F has said on record about the Chase is true. (There are more subtle hints than misdirections, and no subterfuge.)
-There are helpful hints in the scrapbooks, particularly F's comments at the beginning or end, and particularly those posted to Dal's site late last summer.

-A certain searcher doesn't have / hasn't read TFTW or OUAW, so these might contain info that would be useful which he is not aware of.

-The clues in the poem are simple and straightforward, so it stands to reason that anything that follows them is probably equally straightforward or at least doesn't require extra imagination.

-All 9 clues have been solved correctly.
-Digging at the location of the chest is difficult and time-consuming, practically necessitating a precise interpretation of the final instruction.

-Someone who solved the clues wouldn't be posting here if he could manage such an interpretation on his own.

-The command to look quickly down leads directly to this:

imgur.com/OSrla0l

Given all that, what do you make of the image? All constructive ideas are welcome. The best ones may be rewarded.


I do not think ff would have buried it in the ground given the ramifications of what type of land it is on.  I believe the tc may have been sepulchered, or covered by stone slabs or rocks.   

[crm114]

May 31, 2020 18:43:25 GMT -5 witness said:

May 31, 2020 16:24:35 GMT -5 crm114 said:

I forgot to mention that I won't be answering any million dollar questions. If that means I don't get the help that I need, then so be it.

If you can provide citations, that'd be helpful. The two feet remark was made in scrapbook 172: "It was set 24” into the ground, and that’s about as deep as a man’s arm can reach and hand-dig the dirt out."

It was a rhetorical question. Thanks for the citation.

[zaphod73491]

May 31, 2020 11:40:48 GMT -5 witness said:

Forrest has said (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that:

-no one's going to stumble upon the chest

-you don't need special equipment (maybe a flashlight and gloves, but no shovel)

I don't know that a shovel would qualify as "special" equipment -- pretty standard for a treasure hunt. But I personally don't think a shovel is needed. There is a separate quote where Forrest says "Technology isn't going to help you find that treasure chest." (may not be exact, but that's close). A shovel is technology, but then so is Google Earth, a GPS, a metal detector, and even the car to get you there, so it's a curious statement.

-a person can only dig down about two feet by hand

True, but not necessarily relevant since the context was San Lazaro Pueblo. But I get why you've included it.

-a metal detector will help, if you know exactly where to look

Given the technology quote, I think the more likely takeaway from this ATF is that a metal detector won't help. If the dependent clause will never be satisfied, the independent clause can be anything, including impossibilities.

I don't think the treasure is buried pirate style (dig a hole, place treasure, refill with dirt) mostly because Forrest is making such a big deal about it. If it's buried, there's no harm in saying so. After all, he had no qualms about telling us the bells and jars are buried. I think he doesn't want to use that word because it's inaccurate or misleading. As he mentioned, if leaves blow over the treasure and conceal it, is it buried? I think it's sufficient to say it's hidden/concealed by design and leave it at that.

Other statements suggest that he believes if you can find the blaze, you can find the chest. So, if it's buried, then it has to be either so close to the blaze that it's unmistakable, or else there are further instructions after "look quickly down."

Or both.

Since they don't appear to exist within the poem (at least in the 9 clues, as F has said that's the last one), it must be that such instructions are on site, where a physical presence is required, as are imagination and adaptability.

I don't believe "look quickly down" is the last clue, nor do I think the blaze is. It's not necessarily true that the poem's "look quickly down" is equivalent to Forrest's "if you are at the last clue look down because that's where the treasure is" (paraphrased).

Someone who solved the clues wouldn't be posting here if he could manage such an interpretation on his own.

People post on and monitor blogs for many reasons. Not everyone is looking for answers (I'm certainly not), so I'll leave analysis of your image to other posters. Good luck.

[zaphod73491]

To respond to misinterpretations from being endlessly propagated, that's all. Making a declarative statement that "look quickly down" is the last clue or the blaze is the last clue is not helpful, because Forrest has never said or written either of those things. YOU may interpret his statements that way, but post that as fact on Dal's and you'd be moderated in a country minute.

[harrytruman]

Philadelphia Franklin: “If I can find the blase [sic]...all I need to do is look ‘quickly down’ like the poem says, and there is the treasure, right?”

Forrest: “That’s correct Philly...."

What we make of the image doesn't really matter.

Either you secured the chest shortly after you wasted time taking the photo, you secured the chest shortly before you took the photo (which you took because you wanted to mess with people during the 30-day waiting period or something), or you have not found the correct blaze.

[astree]

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I dont understand this thread. Was an initial post(s) deleted?

[crm114]

Jun 1, 2020 5:47:22 GMT -5 astree said:

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I dont understand this thread. Was an initial post(s) deleted?

Looks like it.