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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 1:51:54 GMT -5
Skattjakt, Your six reasons seemed to come from a suspicious mindset. I seem to remember Forrest saying a few years ago that whether the solve is revealed is up to the finder. A few more possibilities that I see are:
7) The finder is selling an exclusive on the story (anonymously of course). 8) The finder is concerned they could be identified and they're trying to tie up any details that could identify them. 9) The finder needs time to get back home and talk to lawyers and financial people before revealing any more details. 10) Their lawyer told them to keep it quiet while the frivolous lawsuits are dealt with. 11) They're concerned that the site would be damaged by many people visiting it, and are talking with whoever controls the land so that preparations are made for the site to be visited without destroying its special character. 12, 13, ...) A million other details that I'm kinda glad I don't have to think about. My guess is that after the initial euphoria wore off the finder has been having way more headaches than joy. If we still haven't heard anything in a month, I'll start to wonder why. If we'd gotten the details immediately I would've assumed that the chest had been found at least a month before. So the finder had had enough time to address all of these issues. There have been many people telling the finder what to do on the blogs. Since we weren't the one to find it none of us are in position to dictate terms. "Suspicious"? No, sceptical is the approach I advocate. It means asking for proof instead of just blindly trusting whoever happens to be in front of you. Didnt Fenn himself say "indecision is the key to flexibility". Yes Fenn did say that in an interview, but not in the book where it all started, or even on his web page. It is reasonable for participants in the hunt to expect transparency when it comes to the solution being revealed after the chase is over. Furthermore, it is very odd that Fenn would create an opening for the finder to request that the solution remains secret. A person who spends $600000 to create a treasure hunt would of course want to decide such fundamental details like the solution being revealed in the end. I dont have a problem with the finder being anonymous, but that has nothing to do with keeping the solution secret! 7) That would be great. But in that case, wouldnt the finder want Fenn to tell everyone to look out for the movie when it comes out? Instead of saying "it was someone from back east" and nothing more. 8) Nonsense. And I think I already addressed this question. There is no way in hell releasing the solution (maybe not even the exact location) would increase the risk people would identify the finder. 9) The finder, why is he relevant. My question was whether FENN wouldnt tell us the solution. This has nothing to do with the finders decisions on how he wants to do everything. 10) I cant see how a lawsuit would prevent Fenn from telling us where warm waters halt, but even if this was the case, why doesnt he say so then? Then people would understand and patiently wait until the lawsuit is over! 11) I addressed that too. Fenn WANTED more people to get out and enjoy nature, doesnt that include his secret spot? It would seem so from the words "I have done it tired and now I am weak". Sure there is always that douchebag who would leave trash behind but those who would pilgrim to this desolate locations are nature lovers and put together more people would pick up litter than would leave litter behind. Making people angry by not revealing the correct solution is much more likely to cause frustration and sabotage. I have always defended Fenn when people accused him that the chase was a fake. Always, up until now.
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Post by edgewalker on Jul 2, 2020 10:59:25 GMT -5
Patience. Go outside. Enjoy the weather. Pat a dog. Have a beer. Count the number of lead searchers.
Give a little space for the finder to chat with lawyers and accountants.
Have some faith in Fenn.
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Post by crm114 on Jul 2, 2020 14:27:12 GMT -5
Patience. Go outside. Enjoy the weather. Pat a dog. Have a beer. Count the number of lead searchers. Give a little space for the finder to chat with lawyers and accountants. Have some faith in Fenn. What makes you think anything else is coming? As far as I'm concerned, f fulfilled his promise for more info and pics, though the info was sparse. There have been zero words from the finder, and zero promises. Dal is shutting down, and I believe he said he knows nothing when asked if we are to expect anything more. I'm not sure what we are supposed to be waiting for.
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Post by goldilocks on Jul 2, 2020 17:01:15 GMT -5
Forrest shouldn’t reveal the correct solution because it’s no longer his to reveal. It’s out of Forrest’s hands. The finder will do whatever he sees fit whenever he chooses. The hunt as we know it is over. Forrest has clearly stepped back. Forrest and the finder are two completely separated entities that no longer have anything to do with each other IMO.
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Post by indulgenceseeker on Jul 2, 2020 17:41:58 GMT -5
The poem is not the finder's; the clues in the poem are not the finder's; the road map created by the solutions to the clues is not the finder's; the physical location (the blaze) is not the finder's. Only the treasure and the chest that came from their solution are the finder's.
We do not need FF to figure this out. We, the community, can still know where the treasure had lain. It's going to have to be BOTG until verified because the blaze has not moved. I do have faith in that.
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Post by lbkgoat on Jul 2, 2020 23:05:18 GMT -5
Fenn is from East Texas
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Post by annie on Jul 4, 2020 8:52:02 GMT -5
Deleted. I agree with your points. Normally when a treasure is hidden, like Masquerade or Conundrum (gold eggs). There is an adjudicator present to avoid situations exactly like this. There is no real reason why Forrest cannot divulge the location.
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Post by sangre on Jul 4, 2020 9:15:18 GMT -5
Forrest shouldn’t reveal the correct solution because it’s no longer his to reveal. It’s out of Forrest’s hands. The finder will do whatever he sees fit whenever he chooses. The hunt as we know it is over. Forrest has clearly stepped back. Forrest and the finder are two completely separated entities that no longer have anything to do with each other IMO. The finder was cast by Forrest in one day. The finder is a shadow. Good luck trying to get answers from a shadow.
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Post by annie on Jul 4, 2020 9:36:34 GMT -5
Forrest shouldn’t reveal the correct solution because it’s no longer his to reveal. It’s out of Forrest’s hands. The finder will do whatever he sees fit whenever he chooses. The hunt as we know it is over. Forrest has clearly stepped back. Forrest and the finder are two completely separated entities that no longer have anything to do with each other IMO. How is it ‘no longer his to reveal’? He wrote the poem, and searchers should have the riddle solve. I don’t understand everyone’s insistence that there are obscure reasons why he cannot tell us, and it is somehow linked to a ‘finder’.
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Post by annie on Jul 4, 2020 9:39:55 GMT -5
PS Deleted I did quite like explanation no 2 though. That made me smile.
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Post by goldilocks on Jul 4, 2020 10:07:57 GMT -5
Forrest shouldn’t reveal the correct solution because it’s no longer his to reveal. It’s out of Forrest’s hands. The finder will do whatever he sees fit whenever he chooses. The hunt as we know it is over. Forrest has clearly stepped back. Forrest and the finder are two completely separated entities that no longer have anything to do with each other IMO. How is it ‘no longer his to reveal’? He wrote the poem, and searchers should have the riddle solve. I don’t understand everyone’s insistence that there are obscure reasons why he cannot tell us, and it is somehow linked to a ‘finder’. I was under the impression Forrest said revealing the solution and location would be up to the finder. Does anyone have a relevant quote?
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Post by sangre on Jul 4, 2020 10:21:09 GMT -5
It’s so contradictory. Forrest has NOT been a silent observer over the past 10 years. He advertised and marketed this thing “in full page color”. He continued to give out hints about the puzzle solution. He continued to answer questions and respond to emails. He made comments about who the prospective finder would be. He told us it would the redneck with 12 kids that couldn’t keep it a secret. What happened to that premonition? He ruled out large areas of the Rockies as to where it was not located- how is that not giving us information about the whereabouts? He has said more than enough about the “who” and the “where”. Here’s what it’s up to now: your own imagination - because that is the only place where it’s going to be found now.
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Post by goldwatch on Jul 4, 2020 10:24:34 GMT -5
How is it ‘no longer his to reveal’? He wrote the poem, and searchers should have the riddle solve. I don’t understand everyone’s insistence that there are obscure reasons why he cannot tell us, and it is somehow linked to a ‘finder’. I was under the impression Forrest said revealing the solution and location would be up to the finder. Does anyone have a relevant quote? He's said that several times over the years. I don't recall where, so I don't know where to look for it. It just seems like common courtesy to me. To do otherwise would be to place constrictions on the Finder that even Forrest doesn't have the right to do. The reason for that thinking is that the Treasure was "abandoned property", therefore whoever found it, at that point, it's all up to them. Forrest gave up all rights to it when he abandoned it.
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Post by goldilocks on Jul 4, 2020 10:54:11 GMT -5
I was under the impression Forrest said revealing the solution and location would be up to the finder. Does anyone have a relevant quote? He's said that several times over the years. I don't recall where, so I don't know where to look for it. It just seems like common courtesy to me. To do otherwise would be to place constrictions on the Finder that even Forrest doesn't have the right to do. The reason for that thinking is that the Treasure was "abandoned property", therefore whoever found it, at that point, it's all up to them. Forrest gave up all rights to it when he abandoned it. Thank you. Exactly. When he placed the chest and walked away he gave up rights to it, regardless of the fact that he wrote the poem and clues. If he had died before the chest was found we would be in the same situation, at the mercy of the finder and without answers.
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Post by goldwatch on Jul 4, 2020 11:14:20 GMT -5
He's said that several times over the years. I don't recall where, so I don't know where to look for it. It just seems like common courtesy to me. To do otherwise would be to place constrictions on the Finder that even Forrest doesn't have the right to do. The reason for that thinking is that the Treasure was "abandoned property", therefore whoever found it, at that point, it's all up to them. Forrest gave up all rights to it when he abandoned it. Thank you. Exactly. When he placed the chest and walked away he gave up rights to it, regardless of the fact that he wrote the poem and clues. If he had died before the chest was found we would be in the same situation, at the mercy of the finder and without answers. The common courtesy part is that, if Forrest knows who found it, as he's been told by the Finder, he's letting them to tell him how they want it to go. i.e. "two can keep a secret." And since it's their property, and their story, Forrest evidently doesn't want to give away their secret if they don't want that. Who knows what the Finder will do tomorrow, or next year. They can change their mind, or not. The rest of us, we're not the Finder, we don't get to make such calls, and any demands have to bearing. I think this is hard on Forrest, too. He has said that the Finder would reveal all, because that's human nature. Now, a Finder has proven him wrong, and I don't think Forrest ever expected that. I don't think he likes it, but he's stuck with it too. Honor is still a thing.
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