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Post by trailblazer99 on Jul 6, 2020 17:02:03 GMT -5
Could the winner have solved it in another way? Would that make it a worse hunt, to know that? If it was possible to "hack" the clues by identifying "home of Brown" or "meek" before WWWH, then yes, it would make it a worse hunt, because Fenn told us we HAVE to begin with WWWH. I have made many treasure hunts myself and I know this would be a difficult challenge. I have tried this method myself, we probably all have. Meek is difficult to fit with anything, especially since Fenn said knowledge of history wont help (so no Oregon Mountain or young Meek being chased into Yellowstone by indians or Fort Davy Crockett) and that there are no bible verses. I hope "no place for the meek" is not just any old "Ghost Mountain" or "Scary River". He never said knowledge of history won’t help? |
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Post by trailblazer99 on Jul 6, 2020 17:02:46 GMT -5
My guess would be 6,950 feet elevation. My guess for elevation is 9800' Pretty spot on. |
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 7, 2020 15:55:48 GMT -5
If it was possible to "hack" the clues by identifying "home of Brown" or "meek" before WWWH, then yes, it would make it a worse hunt, because Fenn told us we HAVE to begin with WWWH. I have made many treasure hunts myself and I know this would be a difficult challenge. I have tried this method myself, we probably all have. Meek is difficult to fit with anything, especially since Fenn said knowledge of history wont help (so no Oregon Mountain or young Meek being chased into Yellowstone by indians or Fort Davy Crockett) and that there are no bible verses. I hope "no place for the meek" is not just any old "Ghost Mountain" or "Scary River". He never said knowledge of history won’t help? Not exactly. He said US history knowledge wasn't required. It was a MW Featured Question from 8/12/2014:
"Mr. Fenn, is there any level of knowledge of US history that is required to properly interpret the clues in your poem? ~Steve R"
FF: "No Steve R. The only requirement is that you figure out what the clues mean. But a comprehensive knowledge of geography might help."
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Post by badger on Jul 8, 2020 1:59:20 GMT -5
He wouldn't if the solution was incomplete. I'd bet anything the poem HAS NOT been completely solved precisely... It is also very possible that the poem doesnt work as well as forrest intended. That it does not lead you precisely to the right location. |
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Post by badger on Jul 8, 2020 2:08:22 GMT -5
If it was possible to "hack" the clues by identifying "home of Brown" or "meek" before WWWH, then yes, it would make it a worse hunt, because Fenn told us we HAVE to begin with WWWH. I have made many treasure hunts myself and I know this would be a difficult challenge. I have tried this method myself, we probably all have. Meek is difficult to fit with anything, especially since Fenn said knowledge of history wont help (so no Oregon Mountain or young Meek being chased into Yellowstone by indians or Fort Davy Crockett) and that there are no bible verses. I hope "no place for the meek" is not just any old "Ghost Mountain" or "Scary River". He never said knowledge of history won’t help? What if meek isnt even one of the clues. Forrest never told us what the clues were. Meek is only commonly accepted as one of the clues. Maybe forrest could at least verify what the nine clues are. That is nothing like providing the solve. I'll bet many will be surprised at what the clues actually are. |
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Post by badger on Jul 8, 2020 2:35:11 GMT -5
What if nine isnt a number?
Consider ME in the middle = MinE
And
NinE = in between NE (any)
Assume nothing.
Except, however, that the neighbor girl on page 30 TTOTC is wincing because forrest is eating his boogers.
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Post by sangre on Jul 8, 2020 17:06:56 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2020 17:30:48 GMT -5
He wouldn't if the solution was incomplete. I'd bet anything the poem HAS NOT been completely solved precisely... It is also very possible that the poem doesnt work as well as forrest intended. That it does not lead you precisely to the right location.
Very good point. Forrest had no way to test it, it might be a big flop and impossible to solve, so he called it off.
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Post by brianu on Jul 8, 2020 17:34:29 GMT -5
Maybe 😏 the finder was so incredibly awesome, that the Rocky mountains couldn't contain it. I heard news of earthquakes and tremors near Yello write before it was found!
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 8, 2020 17:45:17 GMT -5
It is also very possible that the poem doesnt work as well as forrest intended. That it does not lead you precisely to the right location.
Very good point. Forrest had no way to test it, it might be a big flop and impossible to solve, so he called it off.
Badger and Wymustigo: it worked well enough to lead someone there, so that answers the question of whether it was impossible. It wasn't. And Forrest clearly didn't "call it off":
Paragraph 6 of his deposition in the Brian Erskine lawsuit: "...The Memoir describes the treasure chest that I personally hid 'in the mountains somewhere north of Santa Fe,' and provided hints to the Chest's precise location, including a poem that contains nine clues leading potential searchers to the Chest. I did not move the Chest from its original hiding place, nor did I ever direct anyone else to do so."
Paragraph 15: "In early June 2020, I personally verified that the Chest was found by a searcher, who has requested to remain anonymous. Since the Chest was discovered, I have personally seen the Chest and its contents. I also met the person who found the Chest and confirmed that he discovered it in the location I left it about ten years ago. I also confirmed that he used the clues in the poem and hints in the Memoir to locate and find the Chest."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2020 19:49:10 GMT -5
Very good point. Forrest had no way to test it, it might be a big flop and impossible to solve, so he called it off.
Badger and Wymustigo: it worked well enough to lead someone there, so that answers the question of whether it was impossible. It wasn't. And Forrest clearly didn't "call it off":
We have zero proof that the poem was even solved by "the finder". There is also zero proof that Forrest didn't call it off. There are many unanswered questions that have ZERO impact on revealing the finder. Do you know the exact solution? Nope. So you have no way of proving that "the poem lead him exactly to the spot". Also, "found the chest" and "discovered the location" does not mean that the same person "retreived the chest".
The way this chase ended was certainly not the way any sane person would have expected it to. For a man who wanted a legacy, I find it strange that he has not done a single interview or answered any questions provided by the community. He simply spewed out a couple lines, then walked away from it all. Note: I am not saying we need to have the solution OR that we need to know the exact location, but damn, people spent years on this and many feel let down that Forrest simply said "thanks" and walked off. Something doesn't add up.
The chase might have been one huge failure, and maybe he is embarrased? Who knows, and thats the point, we don't know! Nobody has the facts...
PS: Speaking of his disposition for the lawsuit, why does it say he got cancer in 1998? Mistake? Clearly it's wrong, unless maybe the entire story was mostly based on the 15% of time when the truth need not be told?
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 8, 2020 20:27:42 GMT -5
Badger and Wymustigo: it worked well enough to lead someone there, so that answers the question of whether it was impossible. It wasn't. And Forrest clearly didn't "call it off":
We have zero proof that the poem was even solved by "the finder". The last sentence from the deposition extract I posted seems pretty plain to me: the finder used the hints in the book and the clues in the poem to locate the treasure. Sounds like solving it to me, given the outcome.Someone he didn't know found the chest, so it's kinda hard to entertain your idea. True, but Forrest never promised to answer all of our questions. No, I don't "know" it, by I've had a really good solution for over 9 months that might be right. That's true: I don't know the finder's methodology that got him there, but I'm not sure I care. I only have an academic curiosity about whether *I* solved it, and I don't need anything more from the finder or Forrest to make that determination. But why do you care how many people were involved in solving/finding/retrieving? You seem to be hinting at some sort of foul play by the line of your questioning, when there is no evidence to support that. A 1-digit typo does not seem that unusual to me. It stands out to us because we are intimately familiar with the minutiae of Forrest's life, but it's the sort of error that could easily go unnoticed by an attorney or law clerk. I can probably find other mistakes in that deposition. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2020 22:30:27 GMT -5
Zap, I will not argue with you. My statement stands, and you have not proven anything. Do not put answers in my mouth, I said nothing about foul play, you did. I'm sorry you ended it with a terrible solve.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 8, 2020 22:48:04 GMT -5
Zap, I will not argue with you. My statement stands, and you have not proven anything. Do not put answers in my mouth, I said nothing about foul play, you did. I'm sorry you ended it with a terrible solve. At least I'm in the right state. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2020 23:13:16 GMT -5
Not if you're in NM.
BTW, I am just teasing you (except for the not in NM comment). The chase worked out great for me, new business opportunities appeard that might turn out far more valuable than the worth of the chest.
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