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Post by indigojones on Jul 19, 2020 14:43:22 GMT -5
Look at the much talked about photo of the chest and its aberrations, notice the key which we know has been moved away from the coin. The word that was key in the poem was 'WISE' or WisE = West is East. Notice that the key is aligned perfectly parallel with the top and bottom of the photo's edge. Pointing to those two cardinal points.
This change of cardinals within the word 'WisE' relates to the ZODIAC WHEEL where the compass points change over, the first point of ARIES rises in the East and runs counter clockwise to our clock, see the photo of the 'Zodiac Teaching Wheel' in my 'Rainbow over the Zodiac' thread. This IMO was a big clue to applying the Zodiac to the circular cistern. Research the Zodiac wheel for more info.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 14:53:24 GMT -5
My word that was key is treasure. But there is more than one key IMO
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Post by indigojones on Jul 19, 2020 15:16:44 GMT -5
My word that was key is treasure. But there is more than one key IMO Hi 'ogitsumyw' 'Treasures' I believe is more apt since it has nine letters and much more connected to the nine clues IMO. Rainbow was another big clue word for how to begin it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 15:35:00 GMT -5
Yes, treasures but only because its plural. There is more than one "treasure" and hence more than one key IMO.
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Post by goldilocks on Jul 19, 2020 16:26:11 GMT -5
Look at the much talked about photo of the chest and its aberrations, notice the key which we know has been moved away from the coin. The word that was key in the poem was ' WISE' or Wis E = West is East. Notice that the key is aligned perfectly parallel with the top and bottom of the photo's edge. Pointing to those two cardinal points. This change of cardinals within the word 'WisE' relates to the ZODIAC WHEEL where the compass points change over, the first point of ARIES rises in the East and runs counter clockwise to our clock, see the photo of the 'Zodiac Teaching Wheel' in my 'Rainbow over the Zodiac' thread. This IMO was a big clue to applying the Zodiac to the circular cistern. Research the Zodiac wheel for more info. indigo Are you saying the finder was communicating with us cryptically or that the finder is Forrest and he staged the photo?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 17:16:09 GMT -5
Speaking of the photo, I have to say that I read OH! analysis and laughed. He's pretty clueless about Photoshop, and so are his "experts". I am saying this based on my 35+ years experience in the field, and also having been one of the programmers at Adobe. He is right about some things, but he is completely wrong about much of it. Same with the analysis by StS, that was even worse, he is claiming that the wax on the olive jar is a reflection of the finder taking the picture (that is 100% incorrect, it is WAX). Note: I am not saying the photo was not manipulated, I am laughing at the so called Photoshop "experts". If they paid me enough, I would do the analysis, but they cannot afford me (joking)
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Post by annie on Jul 19, 2020 19:23:21 GMT -5
Speaking of the photo, I have to say that I read OH! analysis and laughed. He's pretty clueless about Photoshop, and so are his "experts". I am saying this based on my 35+ years experience in the field, and also having been one of the programmers at Adobe. He is right about some things, but he is completely wrong about much of it. Same with the analysis by StS, that was even worse, he is claiming that the wax on the olive jar is a reflection of the finder taking the picture (that is 100% incorrect, it is WAX). Note: I am not saying the photo was not manipulated, I am laughing at the so called Photoshop "experts". If they paid me enough, I would do the analysis, but they cannot afford me (joking) YAY ogitsumyw you said a word that was in my solve ADOBE, 🏠 A home. ABODE. Sorry, i guess that is really childish of me. What if the photo was NOT taken at the precise spot? Maybe (assuming it was discovered at all) the finder moved it somewhere else to take the pics. There are some really strange artefacts in the background top right section that look man made.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 20:01:48 GMT -5
I don't remember where I read it, but I think it was already noted that the picture was not taken at the spot it was found. The finder stopped on a trail on the way back and shot it there... I don't remember where that was though. Either way, I am talking about the chest contents, not the surroundings
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 20:03:56 GMT -5
Ah, its right here: "Another photo shows the treasure "not long after it was discovered," according to Fenn." "not long after it was discovered" means it was not taken at the location it was found. So people who think there is a "sprinkler head" or whatever are wasting their time. There is no way to find out where the chest was by looking at the photo, unfortunately.
Also, more importantly, its on here: "Photo of the chest taken not long after it was discovered." dalneitzel.com/2020/07/15/14/So no, the picture was definately not taken in-situ.
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Post by indigojones on Jul 19, 2020 20:06:33 GMT -5
Yes, treasures but only because its plural. There is more than one "treasure" and hence more than one key IMO. Precisely, there was a 'TREASURE' singular which is mentioned just outside of the poem, which to my mind was the Silver bracelet hidden in the middle of the cistern. Locating this led to the 'TREASURES' plural at another location which was revealed within the first one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 20:10:57 GMT -5
I believe that in order to get the BIG treasure, you need to endorse the "title" that was presigned by Forrest. I believe the big treasure is a large portion of his entire estate in exchange for the chest. If he was dead, his lawfirm would have handled this. So its like a choice: A) Keep the chest worth 1M, or B) Give the chest back and get XX Million. Tough choice Note: If you take option B, you do not collect until he dies IMO. Remember: Forrest said: "Anyone who dies with more than $50 is a failure. f" Also, he said many times he does not believe in inherited wealth, it creates problems. He took care of his children and grandkids, including paying for their education, but he was not going to leave millions for them to inherit. I belive the finder will become the heir.
I believe that when people find out what really happened, it is going to blow them away. The chest itself is peanuts! I believe the chase was designed such that he could use it as a tool to locate the kind of person he wanted to get the reward. Someone who is sort of like himself, hard worker, not college educated (he wants REAL workers, not phoney people who's mommy and daddy purchased a liberal arts degree for), someone who is extremely skilled but for some reason never realized their full potential. Trust me, he does not want some dummy out wandering along streams to find it, it wanted the right person. Lets just say its impossible to solve unless your imagination is identical to his... Imagination, not knowledge, no need to be a pilot, etc. He was looking for his doppelganger/clone!
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Post by 49 dollers on Jul 19, 2020 20:22:11 GMT -5
Ah, its right here: "Another photo shows the treasure "not long after it was discovered," according to Fenn." "not long after it was discovered" means it was not taken at the location it was found. So people who think there is a "sprinkler head" or whatever are wasting their time. There is no way to find out where the chest was by looking at the photo, unfortunately.
Also, more importantly, its on here: "Photo of the chest taken not long after it was discovered." dalneitzel.com/2020/07/15/14/So no, the picture was definately not taken in-situ. I would have to disagree about the photo not being taken soon after discovery, if you look at the spider webs at the bottom near the lock hole and sides of the chest there is debris floating on the delicate webs, there is no way you could move the chest or contents with the exception of the key,stick and a few gold coins without destroying the webs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 20:25:56 GMT -5
Ah, its right here: "Another photo shows the treasure "not long after it was discovered," according to Fenn." "not long after it was discovered" means it was not taken at the location it was found. So people who think there is a "sprinkler head" or whatever are wasting their time. There is no way to find out where the chest was by looking at the photo, unfortunately.
Also, more importantly, its on here: "Photo of the chest taken not long after it was discovered." dalneitzel.com/2020/07/15/14/So no, the picture was definately not taken in-situ. I would have to disagree about the photo not being taken soon after discovery, if you look at the spider webs at the bottom near the lock hole and sides of the chest there is debris floating on the delicate webs, there is no way you could move the chest or contents with the exception of the key,stick and a few gold coins without destroying the webs.
I'm just the messenger, you are free to disagree with Forrest, he's the one who said it.
I believe him... There is no reason to publish a photo of the chest prior to taking it to a semi-safe place away from where it was. Maybe back to their tent/camp to take pictures? Why is everything a controversy? Seems legit to me...
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 19, 2020 20:34:37 GMT -5
WY: I think the photo was taken close enough to where the chest was hidden (I choose to assume sepulchered), that its pine straw, pine cones, dead wood, grass/sedges, and soil color are very similar. He probably couldn't open the lid in situ. I think he extracted it, set it on the ground within a few meters and took the shot (probably one of many).
I doubt the crusted mud (and spider web) would look the way they do if he had stuffed the chest in a backpack and carried it any significant distance. Once it was back in the trunk of my car, there is no way I'd pull over on my way home (or wherever) just to take a picture of it in the open. What would be the point of that risk, however slim? Deliberate subterfuge?
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 19, 2020 20:44:17 GMT -5
I see 49 dollers was quicker on the draw than I re: the spider web(s). I don't see why there is resistance to the simplest explanation: photo taken soon after chest discovered... as in minutes, not hours or days. Taking such a shot for documentation purposes is just the natural thing to do, and more readily explains the chest's appearance than how it *would* look after any significant transport.
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