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Post by Jenny on Nov 12, 2020 11:58:56 GMT -5
From the creator:
“The Cipher” is a hunt designed for the southern United States!
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Post by susb8383 on Nov 14, 2020 7:52:21 GMT -5
Jenny, where did you see this?
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Post by Jenny on Nov 14, 2020 9:03:28 GMT -5
Jenny, where did you see this? Messaged to MW to share .....
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Post by cat on Nov 27, 2020 1:09:32 GMT -5
I noticed there are 3 opals in the picture — if this is a Southern United States Hunt, then it might matter that there are 3 places to dig for opals open to the public in Nevada that are relatively close to each other. One of them is even for the fiery black opals like the largest one seen. It does cost if you want to dig on the premises of these places, but they on the surface seem not to be related directly to the hunt, so don’t worry about taking out your wallet just yet.
Has anyone checked to see if the other symbols in the writing are in any way alchemical?
Just a thought.
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Post by cat on Nov 27, 2020 1:18:57 GMT -5
Also, Virgin Valley Opal is the state gemstone of Nevada...
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Post by astree on Sept 11, 2021 8:15:35 GMT -5
. Thanks, cat. I was going along those lines of thought even before seeing this thread. A part of it I think depends on how the author of this puzzle is defining southern United States en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_StatesBut I’m also thinking that the place that the opals are hidden is not necessarily where they are commonly mined.
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Post by ju4crafts on Feb 21, 2022 9:21:03 GMT -5
Here is my guess: I used the poem "The Punishment of Pride" by Walt Whitman from the source The New World 3 (18 December 1841). While researching angels/seraph led me to the site www.silverpoet.com where the angel of grief by William Wetmore Story is the main picture. He was also a poet. From the cipher clues I have the word "son". An angel of grief memorial is on the gravesite of William Scott Youree, son, in Scottsville Cemetery in Scottsville, Texas. Using the 6, 64, 9, 6 I get "come placed below come". If anyone is near there could they take a look. I live too far away.
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Post by TxTH on Feb 21, 2022 11:20:19 GMT -5
Here is my guess: I used the poem "The Punishment of Pride" by Walt Whitman from the source The New World 3 (18 December 1841). While researching angels/seraph led me to the site www.silverpoet.com where the angel of grief by William Wetmore Story is the main picture. He was also a poet. From the cipher clues I have the word "son". An angel of grief memorial is on the gravesite of William Scott Youree, son, in Scottsville Cemetery in Scottsville, Texas. Using the 6, 64, 9, 6 I get "come placed below come". If anyone is near there could they take a look. I live too far away. It looks like, from what you said about the numbers (6, 64, 9, and 6) giving you words, you are not using the numbers correctly. The author of the puzzle has stated on her YouTube posting that we need to find the source material and then go line by line extracting single letters. Take the first 4 numbers in the puzzle... 8 - 30 - 13 -1. To apply these you take the text you are using and from the first line of that text get the 8th letter, from the second line of that text you get the 30th letter, from the third line of that text you get the 13th letter, from the fourth line of that text you get the 1st letter...and so on to get the solution that will give you directions to the location of the treasure. From this we can see the text must have at least 73 lines of text and several of these individual lines must contain at least 60 letters. Hope this helps. Here is the link to her YouTube video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-dcRhuL4Ik
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Post by ju4crafts on Feb 21, 2022 11:27:49 GMT -5
ok thanks
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Post by astree on Feb 21, 2022 19:37:44 GMT -5
"Take the first 4 numbers in the puzzle... 8 - 30 - 13 -1. To apply these you take the text you are using and from the first line of that text get the 8th letter, from the second line of that text you get the 30th letter, from the third line of that text you get the 13th letter, from the fourth line of that text you get the 1st letter...and so on to get the solution that will give you directions to the location of the treasure. From this we can see the text must have at least 73 lines of text and several of these individual lines must contain at least 60 letters."
Its an approach, but not the only one, and I don't think the one Niamo most recently indicated. Thats not the way the Declaration of independence was used to decode the Beale cipher.
Was there something else Niamo said to indicate each number is progressively used on successive lines?
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Post by susb8383 on Feb 21, 2022 22:51:25 GMT -5
I agree with TxTH. One of her replies in a YouTube comment implied it was one number per line of the source material.
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Post by astree on Feb 22, 2022 8:16:34 GMT -5
I agree with TxTH. One of her replies in a YouTube comment implied it was one number per line of the source material. Thank you, susb8383. I havent read through all the comments for a while. seems like there were conflict / confusion about the comments. I do recall one comment that it was something like a “beil” code and most recently “if youre using the alphabet and your number is 4, your letter is D”, which makes it sound like a 65 letter cipher alphabet would be enough
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Post by TxTH on Feb 22, 2022 12:23:52 GMT -5
Hi Astree. I just got a chance to check back on my post and see you have already discovered her post. As she said, she just doesn't have much experience with codes and now she understands she used a variation of the Beale code by counting letters instead of words as Jenny does in many of her puzzles. We learned something new and now we are just going to have to start saying..."_______ used the Speck Code for this cipher." lol
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Post by susb8383 on Feb 22, 2022 15:08:51 GMT -5
Hi Astree. I just got a chance to check back on my post and see you have already discovered her post. As she said, she just doesn't have much experience with codes and now she understands she used a variation of the Beale code by counting letters instead of words as Jenny does in many of her puzzles. We learned something new and now we are just going to have to start saying..."_______ used the Speck Code for this cipher." lol Which in itself shows she doesn't much about codes; it sounds like she doesn't know there really is a thing called a Speck Cipher.
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Post by astree on Feb 23, 2022 6:58:37 GMT -5
Hi Astree. I just got a chance to check back on my post and see you have already discovered her post. As she said, she just doesn't have much experience with codes and now she understands she used a variation of the Beale code by counting letters instead of words as Jenny does in many of her puzzles. We learned something new and now we are just going to have to start saying..."_______ used the Speck Code for this cipher." lol Which in itself shows she doesn't much about codes; it sounds like she doesn't know there really is a thing called a Speck Cipher. When I read that Speck Cipher comment, I wasnt sure if Niamo was unaware, or if the lol was indicating otherwise and was making a reference to it. susb, I notice the reference to “she”, which is easy to do. I think this puzzle is solvable, I’ll post a thread with my first solution.
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