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Post by davem on Jan 14, 2021 12:40:37 GMT -5
Interesting theory, rhosyn. And I hadn't thought of the word "Empire" referring to Empire Strikes Back. That was one of my data points that Empire was one of only two Star Wars films to not be mentioned. But then again, we don't have to even know that in order to figure out the code. Allegedly.  |
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Post by davem on Jan 14, 2021 14:57:47 GMT -5
Thing is about learning from the other chapters is that we know for sure that the method used in one chapter will absolutely NOT be repeated. That doesn't mean that the movie titles aren't used in some other way. I've been trying to find kangaroo words mostly. What are your other ideas? That's a good reminder that the exact method isn't repeated. I'm think that there is some sort of 'rules' for picking the movies out. It won't be every movie referenced in the chapter, just some of them. Then maybe applying a caesar cipher to those letters. The reason I think there must be some sort of 'rules' for the movies to pick is because of the exchange on Page 35 where Kayla is talking about the the "fleets being matched in speed". She uses the words, 'Empire' and 'fuel' while talking. Now both of these are Films, but Niel interrupts her saying "That doesn't seem right,". She responds saying "Not if you're following the rules that have been set down through out the previous films,". While this flows well in the conversation, I think the author is actually telling us directly to not use these films. Page 36 has more interesting "Rules" talk and then the strange capitalization on Film Number Eight that escaped me somehow before. “Well, you can make up the rules if you’re going to build your own filmic universe,” Kayla corrected her dad. “But once the rules are established, you can’t break them. If the laws of physics work a certain way throughout seven films, you can’t just rewrite them in Film Number Eight just because you want it that way.” |
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Post by susb8383 on Jan 18, 2021 16:51:46 GMT -5
Googling just about every odd phrase, I found there are a LOT of movie titles:
Master Codebreaker
The Snooks
The Big One
Force
Supreme Ruler
Dark Side
Fait Accompli
etc.
But you wouldn't know any of these titles unless you looked them up, and Dave said in an interview that if you were locked in a room with just the chapter and no internet, you could solve it.
Weird though. Coincidence?
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Post by rhosyn on Jan 18, 2021 18:05:33 GMT -5
Googling just about every odd phrase, I found there are a LOT of movie titles But you wouldn't know any of these titles unless you looked them up, and Dave said in an interview that if you were locked in a room with just the chapter and no internet, you could solve it. Weird though. Coincidence? This is exactly where I got stuck a while ago. I feel as though it might be a correct path, but unsure how to move forward too much. While some of the movies are definitely obscure, all are oddly capitalized. I think it's conceivable to say it's possible to recognize all the names of movies without googling, because of the capitalization. |
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Post by davem on Jan 18, 2021 19:18:34 GMT -5
Googling just about every odd phrase, I found there are a LOT of movie titles: Master Codebreaker The Snooks The Big One Force Supreme Ruler Dark Side Fait Accompli etc. But you wouldn't know any of these titles unless you looked them up, and Dave said in an interview that if you were locked in a room with just the chapter and no internet, you could solve it. Weird though. Coincidence? So this brings me back to an idea I had last week. The Four Chapters could be related to one kind of medium each: Chapter One = ?? Maps? Numbers? Chapter Two = Movies Chapter Three = Newspaper? Chapter Four = Music Are there 10 different mediums? Dunno. Also, did you notice that the Treasure "Convoy" turns into the Treasure "Caravan" in Chapter 4? |
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Post by rhosyn on Jan 18, 2021 19:23:07 GMT -5
There's a movie from 1978 named, Convoy. And before you ask, yes it's terrible, and yes it is based off the super cheesy country song by the same name.
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Post by susb8383 on Jan 18, 2021 20:40:05 GMT -5
I think I remember that movie. Was Kris Kristofferson in it?
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Post by scottk on Jan 19, 2021 7:13:03 GMT -5
Why doesn't Kayla let her father know that she didn't yet watch "Rise of Skywalker" the first time he asks about it? She mentions that her mother would have fallen asleep during "the last one" too. But then goes on to say later on that she has not seen it yet and doesn't really care if she ever does. Came here to make that same comment. I wonder if it's an accidental hiccup in the story or if there's something to it. Or maybe we're reading too much into her guess. Maybe she can only "guess" that her mom would have fallen asleep because she hasn't seen it. |
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Post by susb8383 on Jan 19, 2021 12:39:18 GMT -5
I vote for "too much into it." I keep wondering why the author insists on using last names all the time. He can just call her Kayla.
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Post by scottk on Jan 19, 2021 15:55:43 GMT -5
Is it me? Or is the Chapter 2 "clue" basically just stating the obvious; that the solution has to do with the Star Wars rants?
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Post by susb8383 on Jan 19, 2021 15:59:26 GMT -5
Is it me? Or is the Chapter 2 "clue" basically just stating the obvious; that the solution has to do with the Star Wars rants? Same thing happened with the first chapter 4 hint. |
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Post by scottk on Jan 19, 2021 16:06:23 GMT -5
Is it me? Or is the Chapter 2 "clue" basically just stating the obvious; that the solution has to do with the Star Wars rants? Same thing happened with the first chapter 4 hint. True. I wonder if we can expect a similar pattern: more hints for chapter two until it's solved. Then onto the next chapter. |
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Post by davem on Jan 19, 2021 16:19:55 GMT -5
Important part, I feel, is the use of two "evers". ...and everyone else finds ever ever so entertaining.
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Post by brucewayne on Jan 19, 2021 17:36:19 GMT -5
But there's also the "agree, disagree, entertaining" bit. And the confidentially bit. And the "nice, not too nice, everyone else" bit.
It doesn't seem to point us in any useful direction where we didn't already know to look.
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Post by gshoes3 on Jan 19, 2021 17:50:02 GMT -5
Important part, I feel, is the use of two "evers". ...and everyone else finds ever ever so entertaining. The title of the chapter is WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER |
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