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Post by forgottenhistoryhunt on Feb 15, 2021 9:47:58 GMT -5
Update:
For each day this hunt goes unsolved, I will add an item to the first prize 'treasure chest'. This is day three, so two items have been added so far. If it goes unsolved today, I will add a third item, along with more hints tomorrow.
When the hunt is over, I will post images of the treasure :-)
-FHH
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Chouetteur
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Post by Chouetteur on Feb 15, 2021 11:43:52 GMT -5
Hi Forgottenhistoryhunts,
I think I've got a lead here but I want to make sure; following up with whispa's question, does that mean that the name of the city and the name of the state that she lived in are interchangable? That the name of the city can be switched with the name of the state?
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Post by forgottenhistoryhunt on Feb 15, 2021 13:34:01 GMT -5
Hi Forgottenhistoryhunts, I think I've got a lead here but I want to make sure; following up with whispa's question, does that mean that the name of the city and the name of the state that she lived in are interchangable? That the name of the city can be switched with the name of the state? Hi Chouetteur,
Thanks for the question.
No, just "kingdom" and "empire" are interchangeable, so the phrase becomes either "a kingdom within a kingdom" or 'an empire within an empire", and one of these phrases will lead you to a more specific area.
I hope this helps clarify things -
-FHH
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Chouetteur
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Post by Chouetteur on Feb 15, 2021 13:59:12 GMT -5
Thanks forgottenhistoryhunts!
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Post by whispa on Feb 15, 2021 14:42:19 GMT -5
I had been thinking New York, New York because it's the Empire state.. Empire within an Empire.. lol!
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Post by inatimate1 on Feb 15, 2021 14:58:46 GMT -5
I had been thinking New York, New York because it's the Empire state.. Empire within an Empire.. lol! I had been all the way to New Hampshire on the back of translating the clue about words with the same meaning, after reading somewhere that Hampshire meant "Village Town" . Then ended up going through all the notable alumni of Istanbul University after finding a very tedious link between the two and hoping the opening line about empires and kingdoms was going to link the Ottoman Empire, Saudi Arabia, and an American hitchhiker. Unsurprisingly I got nothing! Thankfully I know where we are now, and I can kind of see where this one is going. I don't actually know what I'm trying to find anymore, but I've pretty much convinced myself I know what I'm NOT looking for
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Post by whispa on Feb 15, 2021 15:17:14 GMT -5
Right there with you about 'what we are not looking for'!
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Post by Chouetteur on Feb 15, 2021 17:02:04 GMT -5
I had been thinking New York, New York because it's the Empire state.. Empire within an Empire.. lol! I thought New York too because of New York City in New York, but I suppose that's wrong, ha ha!
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Post by forgottenhistoryhunt on Feb 15, 2021 18:01:05 GMT -5
I had been thinking New York, New York because it's the Empire state.. Empire within an Empire.. lol! I thought New York too because of New York City in New York, but I suppose that's wrong, ha ha! Nice find! I love these coincidences. But remember, the location is west of the Appalachian Trail :-)
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Post by whispa on Feb 15, 2021 18:04:31 GMT -5
Yep, good old New York was my go to until you posted that hint this morning!! I think I found a second go-to that fits, though!
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Post by forgottenhistoryhunt on Feb 15, 2021 18:07:41 GMT -5
I had been thinking New York, New York because it's the Empire state.. Empire within an Empire.. lol! I had been all the way to New Hampshire on the back of translating the clue about words with the same meaning, after reading somewhere that Hampshire meant "Village Town" . Then ended up going through all the notable alumni of Istanbul University after finding a very tedious link between the two and hoping the opening line about empires and kingdoms was going to link the Ottoman Empire, Saudi Arabia, and an American hitchhiker. Unsurprisingly I got nothing! Thankfully I know where we are now, and I can kind of see where this one is going. I don't actually know what I'm trying to find anymore, but I've pretty much convinced myself I know what I'm NOT looking for Wow- a world traveler! I hope you found some interesting things along the way. I learn more going down rabbit holes than I do with the actual answer :-)
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Post by inatimate1 on Feb 15, 2021 18:54:08 GMT -5
I had been all the way to New Hampshire on the back of translating the clue about words with the same meaning, after reading somewhere that Hampshire meant "Village Town" . Then ended up going through all the notable alumni of Istanbul University after finding a very tedious link between the two and hoping the opening line about empires and kingdoms was going to link the Ottoman Empire, Saudi Arabia, and an American hitchhiker. Unsurprisingly I got nothing! Thankfully I know where we are now, and I can kind of see where this one is going. I don't actually know what I'm trying to find anymore, but I've pretty much convinced myself I know what I'm NOT looking for Wow- a world traveler! I hope you found some interesting things along the way. I learn more going down rabbit holes than I do with the actual answer :-) I enjoy the rabbit holes! The things I've learned when attempting to solve puzzles is the real 'treasure' for me. I don't do them for the prizes, although picking up a tiny keepsake token is always nice . Going off topic, there was a series of apps about 10 years ago called " Triple entendre", all of which involved cracking a picture hint to find an answer. Fine combing through the tale of Lucy the Chimpanzee is still something I haven't forgotten all this time later. Puzzles like yours are fantastic, because of that Eureka moment when seeing how it all fits together. Although reading about the history of certain things I'd never dream of looking up otherwise is a real thrill as well.
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Post by goldhunter on Feb 15, 2021 19:28:40 GMT -5
I admit it. I thought this would be easy. It hasn't been.
I'm enjoying it, though!
Thanks to ffh.
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Post by forgottenhistoryhunt on Feb 16, 2021 7:30:37 GMT -5
Update:
Not a lot of submissions yesterday, but by the comments on the thread and in messages I think people are getting closer. The answers are still in the box, though. But the box is getting smaller. Soon, the box will be gone.
Judith Resnick - American astronaut, born in 1949 in Akron, OH, killed in the Challenger explosion in 1986, age 36. Andy Warhol - American artist, born in 1928 in Pittsburgh, PA, died in 1987, age 58, from complications of surgery. Jane Kendeigh - American flight nurse during WWII, born in 1922 in OH, died in 1987 of a heart attack, age 65. Rosie the Riveter - born in 1942 in a song at the beginning of WWII. Many 'Rosies' worked in factories and shipyards, making munitions and war supplies. Rosie died in 1945, age 4, but many of the 'Rosies' were in their 20's & 30's when they lost their jobs to returning soldiers.
Again, great finds, but not yet correct. Maybe today is the day. Three items have been added to first prize :-)
Good luck!
-FHH
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Post by forgottenhistoryhunt on Feb 16, 2021 7:32:51 GMT -5
Recap of previous hints: 1. I am not a man 2. I was born between 1923 and 1952 3. I lived between 27-39 years 4. I died between 1950 and 1991 (an yet my name lives on as a noun) 5. I was born in a kingdom within a kingdom, or an empire within an empire. 6. Think outside the box. 7. I was born in a boom town somewhere between the 40th & 41st parallel and between the Mississippi River and the Appalachian Trail.
Today's hints: I was born less than 50 miles from a city. I have a cousin in New York who runs a general store, a glowing example in my family of misfits. But don't go down this rabbit hole just yet. The store does not share my name and there are a lot of general stores in New York!
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