Post by wgardner on Apr 30, 2021 8:32:17 GMT -5
In addition to ATT Clue #3 being unsolved, ATT Clue #4 has also been unsolved.
I think I may have found a solution for Clue #4. It may also provide insight into Clue #3, as they both involve images of flowers and petals.
I reported this in the Clue #3 thread, but I think it deserves its own thread for posterity.
Reposted from that thread below (lightly edited):
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I believe that Clue 4 is this image.
i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Mister_Gizmo/Treasure%20Trove/Illustration2.jpg
Another hunter helpfully overlaid the 18x18 grid and noticed that the flower centers exactly align on the grid points.
The following thread hinted at a path to a solution but apparently never followed through on it (or maybe they solved it and didn't want to reveal the solution?).
tweleve.org/web-clues-cont/19591-idea-clue-4-a.html
Taking parts of these findings, I tried decoding Clue 4 using the following method:
. Read left to right from 1-18 on the X axis at the bottom
. For each X value, find the Y value of the corresponding flower. This Y value corresponds to the LINE OF THE ATT POEM (!).
. For each flower, count the number of petals. This corresponds to the WORD on that line of the ATT poem.
So for example,
X=1 -> Y=3 with 4 petals -> Poem line 3, word 4 = YOU
X=2 -> Y=4 with 7 petals -> Poem line 4, word 7 = SEEK
Continuing in this way, the clue decodes to the following message:
YOU SEEK SECRET NOT DISTURBED.
INSIDE THE TEXT REVEALS WHERE HIDDEN TOKEN BE.
A CODE FOR THE SANCTUARY.
Sounds like a readable clue, though not super helpful (much as Clue 1 and Clue 2 were not super helpful either)! I haven't found anywhere online that completely describes this decoding method or solution for this clue.
Unlike Clue 3 (which was released in June 2005 when the main ATT hunt was very active), Clue 4 was released on 9/17/05, the same day as a press release announcing the existence of the 14th Token: Rusful/ Black Diamond. That archived press release from ATT says that the solve for the 14th token REQUIRED the web clues AND the book (unlike all of the other ATT tokens that only required the book).
The ATT "Starz web clues" (called 5.1-5.4 on the archived atreasurestrove site) were a bunch of plus/cross symbols with characters in the outer boxes. When those plus/cross symbols were overlaid with a page in ATT, the characters in the center of the crosses could be extracted and anagrammed which apparently led the eventual finders to the location of the 14th Token by the Prayer Book Cross in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco.
I've compiled all my findings and thoughts on the final ATT clues and tokens (the ones past the ATT Official Solutions Book) in the following doc:
docs.google.com/document/d/1-D0m5eUGttdHexP48XNnqA5d3jiDdvtOHc6TdftdR74/edit?usp=sharing
Let me know if you have other info, find errors, have comments, etc.
I think I may have found a solution for Clue #4. It may also provide insight into Clue #3, as they both involve images of flowers and petals.
I reported this in the Clue #3 thread, but I think it deserves its own thread for posterity.
Reposted from that thread below (lightly edited):====================================================
I believe that Clue 4 is this image.
i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Mister_Gizmo/Treasure%20Trove/Illustration2.jpg
Another hunter helpfully overlaid the 18x18 grid and noticed that the flower centers exactly align on the grid points.
The following thread hinted at a path to a solution but apparently never followed through on it (or maybe they solved it and didn't want to reveal the solution?).
tweleve.org/web-clues-cont/19591-idea-clue-4-a.html
Taking parts of these findings, I tried decoding Clue 4 using the following method:
. Read left to right from 1-18 on the X axis at the bottom
. For each X value, find the Y value of the corresponding flower. This Y value corresponds to the LINE OF THE ATT POEM (!).
. For each flower, count the number of petals. This corresponds to the WORD on that line of the ATT poem.
So for example,
X=1 -> Y=3 with 4 petals -> Poem line 3, word 4 = YOU
X=2 -> Y=4 with 7 petals -> Poem line 4, word 7 = SEEK
Continuing in this way, the clue decodes to the following message:
YOU SEEK SECRET NOT DISTURBED.
INSIDE THE TEXT REVEALS WHERE HIDDEN TOKEN BE.
A CODE FOR THE SANCTUARY.
Sounds like a readable clue, though not super helpful (much as Clue 1 and Clue 2 were not super helpful either)! I haven't found anywhere online that completely describes this decoding method or solution for this clue.
Unlike Clue 3 (which was released in June 2005 when the main ATT hunt was very active), Clue 4 was released on 9/17/05, the same day as a press release announcing the existence of the 14th Token: Rusful/ Black Diamond. That archived press release from ATT says that the solve for the 14th token REQUIRED the web clues AND the book (unlike all of the other ATT tokens that only required the book).
The ATT "Starz web clues" (called 5.1-5.4 on the archived atreasurestrove site) were a bunch of plus/cross symbols with characters in the outer boxes. When those plus/cross symbols were overlaid with a page in ATT, the characters in the center of the crosses could be extracted and anagrammed which apparently led the eventual finders to the location of the 14th Token by the Prayer Book Cross in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco.
I've compiled all my findings and thoughts on the final ATT clues and tokens (the ones past the ATT Official Solutions Book) in the following doc:
docs.google.com/document/d/1-D0m5eUGttdHexP48XNnqA5d3jiDdvtOHc6TdftdR74/edit?usp=sharing
Let me know if you have other info, find errors, have comments, etc.