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Post by astree on Nov 16, 2021 10:15:39 GMT -5
. A Piece (O)f the New W(o)rld There is quite a bit of information that might be gleaned from the phrase To begin, it has a prime number of characters, with or without the "opals" (17 / 19) There are 19 numerals in the last line of ciphertext If we correlate the phrase and last line of ciphertext A P i e c e ... 23 32 45 17 32 21 and then reorder from smallest to highest numeral WOW .. ( and remaining letters contain DECIPHER or CODE ) agnesdei, you might like this Apollo 11 connection WOW DECIPHER LONE "FEAT" WOW NEILA FEET DO PERCH (sort of feeling the parch meant here) ...., and there's more to back that up that I won't post yet (you think the PR people at NASA put that one one in there for Apollo 11 ?) or extending the sequencing further .. WOW TEE ..( and remaining letters contain DECIPHER or CODE) Also, in he comments, all the capital letters anagram to ITS FIFTY TO(T) .... IT'S 50 to "T" from "New Comments ..." thread |
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Post by susb8383 on Dec 17, 2021 8:02:28 GMT -5
Just brainstorming what the source material could be. They said decoding it involves taking one letter per line, which means it is something that has at least 73 lines that don't change, like a poem.
They also said it is readably available online.
Relating this to the title I tried things like the Declaration of Independence but it didn't fit the requirements.
What would make sense to me is the Bible.
It is readably available online
It has static lines (verses)
Five books/chapters have at least 73 verses
It fits in with the title of the music, Hope
They said whoever needs the treasure will find it. To me that says the author is a spiritually minded person.
They said it is hidden in the south. Bible Belt?
It occurred to me there is a version called The New World Bible.
I'm posting this theory because I didn't get anywhere pursuing this but somebody else might.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Dec 23, 2021 0:00:38 GMT -5
The trouble with using "the Bible" is: how do you decide which version? There are probably 50-odd "common" versions of the English Bible, e.g. King James version, New King James version, Revised Standard Version, New Living Translation, etc. I'd like to think (hope?) the source material is unique in both content and layout, and somehow cleverly singled out by the (non-audio) content of that video.
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Post by susb8383 on Dec 23, 2021 6:42:53 GMT -5
The trouble with using "the Bible" is: how do you decide which version? As I said, there is a version called The New World Bible which fits in with the title Pieces of the New World. |
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Post by astree on Dec 23, 2021 9:21:10 GMT -5
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susb, can you cite a link to the New World Bible?
I know of The New World Translation... is that what youre talking about?
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Post by susb8383 on Dec 24, 2021 7:52:15 GMT -5
. susb, can you cite a link to the New World Bible? I know of The New World Translation... is that what youre talking about? Yup, that's the one I mean. You're right, it's mostly referred to as the New World Translation. I think I saw one place that called it the New World Bible, and one that called it the New World Translation Bible. But it's all the same thing. it seemed like as good a place to start as any since it has such a direct connection to the title. But I didn't get anywhere with it. |
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Post by astree on Dec 25, 2021 10:12:20 GMT -5
. susb “Five books/chapters have at least 73 verses” How would you apply the ciphertext? Numbers 7, for example? First letter of corresponding verse? www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/numbers/7/I also looked for opals mentioned in the bible but only found them in Exodus, but not in most translations. |
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Post by susb8383 on Dec 28, 2021 14:24:49 GMT -5
Well...my thought was this: Since she said one number goes with each line, I thought it might be as simple as finding the right chapter to start with and then just going verse by verse.
So using Numbers 7:
Verse 1: take the 8th letter Y
Verse 2: take the 30th letter O
Verse 3: take the 13th letter E
etc.
Didn't work.
So...if it the correct source really is the New World Translation, then the video has to have some clue as to where we start.
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Post by susb8383 on Dec 28, 2021 14:33:40 GMT -5
Also, it's probably a total coincidence, but there's a YouTuber named Speck Cipher who posted a couple of things about the Mormon religion. Book of Mormon?
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Post by jrrag on Dec 31, 2021 10:18:58 GMT -5
73 books in the Catholic Bible.
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Post by astree on Dec 31, 2021 11:03:11 GMT -5
Also, it's probably a total coincidence, but there's a YouTuber named Speck Cipher who posted a couple of things about the Mormon religion. Book of Mormon? I looked at the Book of Mormon, but could not find any obvious source for the ciphertext. I saw one reference (other than this puzzle) to a Niamo Speck on a google search, it was an etsy or pinterest entry. 73 books in the Catholic Bible. That's interesting, because of the 73 numbers in the ciphertext, and the 66 books in the non-Catholic Bible (and the 6 6 are highlighted in the ciphertext). Hmmmm. |
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Post by susb8383 on Jan 8, 2022 10:41:29 GMT -5
73 books in the Catholic Bible. What version is the Catholic Bible? |
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Post by jrrag on Jan 8, 2022 14:13:08 GMT -5
Catholic Bible is the wiki entry. It's the Protestant 66 plus 7 of the apocrypha.
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Post by astree on Jan 8, 2022 16:04:42 GMT -5
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Post by luckluck on Jan 10, 2022 19:28:16 GMT -5
the problem I have with a possible Bible solution is the numbering system is going to be thrown off based off of publishers and how they choose to format the page for font style and size, images placed in the text, margin settings... It seems like the source material would have to be standard despite the printer. I believe poem, script, or song lyrics most likely. Book of mormon, that might be a maybe since they seem to have a standard printing format other than they year of publication due to changes in their chapter headings and changes in footnote area.
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