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Post by diceycat on Jan 30, 2022 22:37:21 GMT -5
For those not familiar with my theory let me explain. The painting is a map. Looking at the painting you see the North Star ie. North direction ( your bearings). I circled the matches on the painting and on the map. The small blue circled area represents that large stone that sat along the path towards the obelisk. It was tipped down like that. They have repaired that a few years ago. Now If you assume nothing or very little has changed over the last 40 years then this probably is where the casque lays. Again draw the lines and where they intersect is the final location of the casque ( intersection kind of looks like it’s in the sky?) anyways my guess it’s by that pine tree in the pic below. I don’t think he would have buried it by the 4 trunk tree but don’t rule anything out. Unless he stuck it in the centre of those 4 tree trunks, now that would be a real head scratcher. Can it even fit there? Anyways the location matches the lines “ in the centre four alike small split” you see that 4 trunk tree and the “three winged and slight “ would be in reference to the 3 pine trees. Now the Japanese hints says “ what we take to be our strongest tower of delight “ is a quote from a famous book, but I have not looked into it. Since the only three in this location are those pines. Maybe the winged refers to the lower branches that were cut off something like winging an animal ( an injury),or winged it, but by definition winged could refer to winged seeds or elevated and slight for skinny . So you have tall skinny pine trees and that’s all. Is the strongest tower of delight the tallest pine tree ( my guess) or referring to the Obelisk? So that’s where I believe the casque to be buried as odd as it may seem. Definitely the general area in my opinion. Even though I posted a dig site I’m probably going to have to refine the exact location , ( the final spot could be difficult like the Chicago casque) and may need to do another post after I spend a bit more time on definitions etc. Does anyone know what book that quote came from? As always it’s unfortunate that they don’t want you to dig in this park. Possible fine if caught. GLTA
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Post by diceycat on Feb 1, 2022 7:55:01 GMT -5
I’ve looked at this a lot of different ways and still come to the same conclusion that the casque burial site is most likely by the tallest of the 3 pines in the direction of the fountain in McGovern Lake. As to the location of the casque nothing really new from the post above. Oh! That line “The centre of 4 alike “ they are the 4 camel legs in the painting and that group of four tree trunks by the site. GLTA
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Post by choice on Feb 1, 2022 16:25:24 GMT -5
One could interpret the "982" as the locomotive in the park and therefore the cask must be there. Or 982 is the means to get to a different park i.e. arriving to the name of the park by deciphering it (982). Did Byron send the searchers on a wild goose chase in the Hermann Park? The jury is still out on this one.
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Post by diceycat on Feb 1, 2022 17:40:13 GMT -5
Well, the way everything ( all the landmarks) ,fits with the lines on both the map and painting, that confirms the location to me 100%. If someone can show the same results in a different park then please do. Post the entire solve. Keeping it Simple . Don’t Kevin Bacon the puzzle. If that quote ( highlighted below),( about a tree) and authors name isn’t enough proof that it’s in Herman park then I don’t know what more you need. BP is not sending you on a wild goose chase.
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Post by choice on Feb 1, 2022 19:07:35 GMT -5
Not the only Hermann in town!
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Post by diceycat on Feb 1, 2022 21:00:25 GMT -5
Your choice to interpret the verse and painting any way you like. This is the way I see it and have not seen any other solves that make sense. Just another pic below to confirm those leaves that are painted black in the painting in association with the location. Best to go on Google Earth and see for yourself
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Post by diceycat on Feb 2, 2022 9:39:46 GMT -5
When does a Plan B turn into a Plan A? First off I would like to thank “Choice” for poking my theory and posting other bits on this and other forums. It gets me looking around for more clues to confirm the dig site. If it wasn’t for the fact that I was looking for those confirmations I would have missed the actual dig location, well I was still very close. When I posted the pic of the leaves above I should have been looking down below as well. There it was the Djinn… right in front of me. It’s that water drinking fountain! It’s the “SPOUT” that we are supposed to look for, not the fountain in McGovern Lake although it still may be the big fountain but I’m starting to seriously doubt it .This is your Djinn landmark the drinking fountain Look between that tallest tree towards the drinking fountain. Remember it’s a map. The Ruby and the base of the Djinn (base of the drinking fountain) are both south east of the tallest tree ( the tallest column). That Djinn had stumped me in the past since I was thinking it had something to do with a sewer drain and didn’t realize it was the drinking fountain drain( the swirling) and the head cover is actually the spout part that you drink from. This is probably why the centre point in the painting is in the blue ,for both sky and water. If you look closely at the lower section of that tallest column ,you see what looks like an “L” . This is a directional mark indicating the direction to dig (SE) in relation to the tree ( the vertical portion of that “L” represents the tree),, this is my guess, it all fits perfectly. Now if you draw a straight line down from this “L” to the base of the column ( the tree) and then go towards the base of the Djinn ,(the drinking fountain) you cross directly over both the Ruby in the painting and if the theory holds then, with the map, the casque in the ground. There is probably a hint in the painting as to the distance away from the tree, but it should be along that line. The gem looks closer to the tree in the painting. There is an even taller pine tree along the path just a bit south of those three pines and it’s a possibility that this is the strongest tower of delight but I still think it’s the tallest of the three trees since these trees have had their lower limbs removed making it look smoother like a column. I don’t rule out any possibilities. Maybe you have to determine the angle the tree to the drinking fountain makes to a line due east will determine which tree? lm going to change my thoughts on why the camel has a rectangular end on the tail. I think it has to do with the rectangular /square area where those sycamore trees are planted in ,by that drinking fountain, this makes more sense if it’s a map. As well, looking at some of those old maps of Herman park it looks like those small trains went by that drinking fountain.
Even though I think you dig by the tallest of the three trees, there is an even taller tree closer to that drinking fountain
Your going to have to probe along the direction from the tree to the drinking fountain . It might even be in the Sandy area below those leafy trees since the Ruby is in a rectangular shape in the painting and the line from the 3rd tree crosses over that Sandy area on the Google photo. This area is starting to look the most promising since no one would see any digging marks and it kind of ties into the theme of sand ( sand dunes in the painting).
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Post by choice on Feb 8, 2022 17:18:24 GMT -5
It could be moonscape with S5 for Saturn 5. The bell-shaped surround resembles a rocket "nozzle" or spout! POKE: Refer to your thread title!
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Post by diceycat on Feb 8, 2022 21:32:03 GMT -5
That’s possible that it could represent a rocket nozzle. More confirmation for Houston maybe. Im certainly not getting every clue right but you only need enough to get you to the treasure ground and casque.
The more I think about it , the more I feel that the casque is buried in the sand by those Sycamore trees in that square. Why does one paint sand dunes, and tinge them with blue ( blue means close to water or sky ,ie. close to the drinking fountain). Sure the sand dunes represent the hills at the Miller theatre but I’m pretty sure those hills are more dirt than sand. As well the sand dunes gets one thinking of Arabia.
That steam whistle shadow cast by the Djinn in the painting but the steam does not come out of the side opening of that whistle. Plus the handle of that whistle could be a representation of the posts that surround the drinking fountain. To me that just shows that the train went by this drinking fountain ,which it did.
Im even starting to think why he painted things black , like the leaves. Does black mean it’s just a shadow or something temporary or tied to death? ( leaves fall off the tree, shadow cast of the steam whistle…. Small train goes by on occasion). Did the leaves already drop and that’s why they are painted black? In the painting you only need so much to get you the city, the rest are objects that can be seen from the treasure ground in the park. It’s all for not if you can’t dig it.
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wbgrimesii
Junior Member
I have several solves but need someone like Josh Gates to get permission to dig for one of them.
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Post by wbgrimesii on Feb 9, 2022 8:12:14 GMT -5
The problem with Houston is that landmarks in that park have been moved or altered.. Alot changes over 40 years
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Post by diceycat on Feb 9, 2022 8:52:23 GMT -5
Certainly some landmarks may change but not all landmarks change .There are still enough clues out there to get you to the casque. You could still figure out Boston, Chicago or Cleveland today. BP picked landmarks/ clues that would probably last dozens and dozens of years. Things historic or set in concrete, trees ,road names, monuments ,fences , sewer manhole covers, buildings ,bridges ,events ,pathways in parks and even water drinking fountains. Yes that style of drinking fountain may change but not the location since it takes a whole lot to tear up the place just to lay new pipes.
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Post by choice on Feb 9, 2022 12:06:54 GMT -5
The more I think about it , the more I feel that the casque is buried in the sand by those Sycamore trees in that square. Why does one paint sand dunes, and tinge them with blue ( blue means close to water or sky ,ie. close to the drinking fountain). Yes, sea perhaps. Since this is a puzzle involving Persia and "Araby" culture, a Djinn is a type of spirit. A ghost/spirit in the painting's Djinn. As to wbgrimesii's concern, the target park is most likely in a different district. Triangulation may help with the clues given in both verse and painting. One is Hermann; pointed out already. Djinn and small scale may be the other two. 982 for name of the park (no Kevin Baconning here!) and lion/wood for the area.
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wbgrimesii
Junior Member
I have several solves but need someone like Josh Gates to get permission to dig for one of them.
Posts: 89
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Post by wbgrimesii on Feb 9, 2022 13:36:32 GMT -5
Actually my concern is that the train has been moved.. So has the obolisk.. If lines are needed from these points to determine exact dig location .. It makes it more difficult.. The lake also has changed.. For these reasons I have moved Houston to the bottom of my search list. I wish everyone best of luck in their search.
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Post by choice on Feb 9, 2022 14:22:13 GMT -5
Yes I got your original concern. My point was that all your concerns won't matter if the chosen park is wrong. The reason people are in Hermann park is because of the Herman Melville and 982 rabbit hole. Both can be associated with another location in Houston. Don't give up on Houston yet. There's an image confirmer in the Djinn to the area.
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wbgrimesii
Junior Member
I have several solves but need someone like Josh Gates to get permission to dig for one of them.
Posts: 89
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Post by wbgrimesii on Feb 9, 2022 18:21:58 GMT -5
Thank you for that.. Not giving up on Houston but focusing on areas closer to home. For now still at the bottom of my list
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