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Post by rahrah on May 17, 2017 22:53:38 GMT -5
In the epilogue is the picture of the clear-cut tree stumps, the lumberjack/axeman leaning his axe on a stump as he looks up at the crescent moon; in the crescent moon is a nest with a dove/pigeon/mourning dove/turtle dove looking down on the lumberjack/axeman.
What do you think it means?
Why does Fenn include it in the book?
Do you need the picture to solve the poem?
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Post by goldwatch on May 18, 2017 1:13:09 GMT -5
I think the tree stumps represent the books (trees-pulp-paper) of lives, as in his father was a teacher and molded people. I don't know who the lumberjack is, FF or his father. I think it's FF, doing his father's work through this quest. The dove in the nest...doves almost always lay 2 eggs. This reminds me of the 2 hen sized gold nuggets in the treasure chest. I think this illustration has meaning.
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Post by mindy on May 18, 2017 7:48:53 GMT -5
Some people say there is a turtle in the drawing with the moon and dove. There's another pic in the book with a turtle and dove together. Google turtledove and see where in Shakespeare it takes you. An interesting and curious rabbit hole, if nothing else.
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Post by decall on May 23, 2017 20:25:59 GMT -5
In the epilogue is the picture of the clear-cut tree stumps, the lumberjack/axeman leaning his axe on a stump as he looks up at the crescent moon; in the crescent moon is a nest with a dove/pigeon/mourning dove/turtle dove looking down on the lumberjack/axeman. What do you think it means? Why does Fenn include it in the book? Do you need the picture to solve the poem? I like what goldwatch is saying... Imo many of the illustrations are maps at a different scale. Teachers with ropes a google earth scale of Madison River.. field of stumps has WMF's hat floating (moon) scale basically the general search area. Gypsy wagons girls dancing is the blaze, ff is the tc. Etc.
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Post by deeepthkr on May 14, 2018 6:19:17 GMT -5
Decall, you got one of those right for sure but... Mindy, the nest is what's important. And yes an egg is a small part. It is a tying together of all faucets of what he is showing and telling you. Use your imagination, tie the end of one string onto the end of the next. Ex: Loon arrow = low narrow. An apron used to be called napron. Ann, ana, an, a, •
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Post by CJ on May 24, 2018 8:13:01 GMT -5
So, it goes along with the Treasures Galore story from the blog. In that context, the illustration makes perfect sense. The only question is - why would the illustration make it into the book, but the story didn't? So many contradictions.....
"I'll happily share my national forests with you, but please try to stay at least 20 miles away."
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Post by zaphod73491 on May 29, 2018 20:59:48 GMT -5
People still have to reconcile the fact that Forrest didn't draw the illustrations in TTOTC. Yes, there is clear photoshopping of stumps and stars, but unless the illustrator (Alan? -- I'm going from memory) is in on it, how could Forrest force him to include hints/clues in his illustrations without tipping him off to the fact? Surely Alan would know if Forrest or an editor added a dove sitting in the crescent moon after the fact, or in any other substantive way altered the illustration.
If you dig into the HoD archives, you can find a post from Dal quoting Forrest that that particular illustration was just an environmental statement, nothing more. But I suppose conspiracy-minded folks would claim "Of course Forrest would say that! It's too big a clue!"
All that said, stump/star duplication/mirroring is pretty innocuous. If Forrest could insert a hint this way, Alan might not be the wiser, figuring it was an aesthetic change to expand the space horizontally.
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Post by Jenny on Apr 13, 2020 8:28:23 GMT -5
I've written some books, and one which I hired an Illustrator.....my Higher and Higher book (cover image below). I told the illustrator exactly what I wanted (and where)... and yet still allowed him the freedom to create it the 'way' he wanted.... I can imagine Forrest saying I want this many stumps, a bird sitting in a nest on the moon......etc....etc.. If there are hints in the illustrations, it wouldn't be difficult for Forrest to tell his illustrator what he wanted without him knowing if anything of that nature was hint to the treasure or not....
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Post by earthshaker42 on Apr 13, 2020 9:29:20 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 11:54:04 GMT -5
I think the tree stumps represent the books (trees-pulp-paper) of lives, as in his father was a teacher and molded people. I don't know who the lumberjack is, FF or his father. I think it's FF, doing his father's work through this quest. The dove in the nest...doves almost always lay 2 eggs. This reminds me of the 2 hen sized gold nuggets in the treasure chest. I think this illustration has meaning. This means that the dove will have two biddies. And it's "No Place For Biddies" on the moon?
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