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Post by theo on May 28, 2024 6:22:26 GMT -5
Probably nothing but I found it quite interesting how the Torontogre image could apply to the San Francisco puzzle image / possible dig site. ![66-AAB9-D4-72-A6-447-E-9-E0-F-533-C87-FE0-B86](https://i.postimg.cc/rpsd15Gj/66-AAB9-D4-72-A6-447-E-9-E0-F-533-C87-FE0-B86.jpg)
Good catch!
Like so many things from the back of the book, this seems less of a full-blown clue and more of just a subtle hint to help us pay attention to the right details.
The woman centered in the photo could very plausibly be a deliberate reference to Image 1. (Certainly, of all 12 images, Image 1 comes the closest to matching the layout.) And the fact that the spiral is absolutely centered on the two diagonals and highlighted against the black background seems to deliberately draw our attention. "Look at the spiral!" the image is screaming.
But nothing about this photo says "hotel in crowded urban area" (to my eyes). And the spiral is slightly different from both the spiral in the painting and the spiral in the Fairmont logo. The most simple takeaway I would get from this is "Pay attention to a spiral in a forested, park-like area in relation to Image 1."
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Post by choice on May 28, 2024 12:45:05 GMT -5
You can interpret (bacon) back of the book images to suit with your theory easily. For example, page 209, woman pointing her issue to the "clockwork" doctor with a couple of "winding" keys. Do those keys show 88 or 800? Is he doctor Powell? Why is he swinging the golf "club"? How about page 127? A prison where the prisoner is kept. Also a bird in a cage. Is the cask behind iron bars? How about the image 1 itself that shows the wall trim on north end of California? The rose-colored red wall in the period image below. Notice the old Stanford barns garden where the squash courts are now. ![](https://i.imgur.com/N17pLWR.jpeg) ![](https://i.imgur.com/Ihg5e7G.jpeg) ![](https://i.imgur.com/YmG8n9u.jpeg)
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Post by diceycat on May 28, 2024 13:59:39 GMT -5
Again all theory ,( sometimes the bacon smells too good to pass up).. I like that Stanford barns garden area, more concealed, too bad it’s gone. Makes more sense that it could be there rather than the planters along side the Fairmont. Doesn’t make sense that the jewel is on the girls throat unless the casque was buried below the KSFO radio sign. Can’t say for sure that there is a match to pg. 209. It might be a clue for Houston. It could be the fact that there is a golf course at Herman park and there is a hospital close by, ( the doctor). The two “8s” may refer to the 9…82. The doctor is using a wood ( through the wood no lion fears) .The golfing Doctor is “small of scale”. He just hit the ball and it appears to be out of sight , maybe he should yell “ four”,( in the center of four alike). He ( the golfer),is sporting some horns ( whistle sound of the train) with his back to the 2 8s,(982), the girl is pointing to a corner, yeah it’s a corner, look closer ,( corner of the sand box area that holds the sycamore trees), if you don’t like that then maybe she is pointing to her iliac “crest”,( Miller theatre hill), she is wearing glasses, ( cold as glass) .She is taking her task to the 982,( the doctor with the windup keys). I do like the fact that they are “keys.” windup keys. We see other keys in the paintings . in Milwaukee, ( skeleton key), Chicago, ( key ring), Roanoke, (skeleton key), Cleveland,( keystone), there could be other keys in the other paintings like key hole, Key West, turnkey etc. that don’t stand out , again just guessing here.
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Post by diceycat on May 29, 2024 11:35:44 GMT -5
I will try to summarize pg. 209. I think that since it was a different artist who drew this picture, his graphic interpretation of Herman park compliments JJP’s art work. ![47-BE0-CBF-EB2-D-42-EB-B95-D-EFD50215-AAD5](https://i.postimg.cc/Hs9WRJpP/47-BE0-CBF-EB2-D-42-EB-B95-D-EFD50215-AAD5.jpg)
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Post by diceycat on May 30, 2024 13:59:00 GMT -5
Here’s my interpretation of the image on page 217. Again all theory . I will try to highlight the important parts. It’s pretty obvious that the large prisoner character in the drawing is Robert Stroud , ( Birdman of Alcatraz). We see the metaphor for “sounds from the sky”. The caged canary up high . Those birds that he raised were SONG birds. He is RESTING his head on his hand sitting /RESTING on a bench on the ROCK aka Alcatraz. The prisoner, ( Robert Stroud) is a metaphor for the “Resting Hermes Statue “. Stroud wrote 2 books ,( TWAIN wrote a few books), and was looked up to by those in the avian field for his research. He cared for one of Gods creatures , depicted graphically on pg.217 , larger than life ( GOD like), larger than the lawyer beside him, Resting , on the bench on the Rock and has the title of Birdman attributed to him ( think WINGS). This fits nicely into the Resting Hermes theme. Now “Choice” mentioned back in the day that this statue sat in a garden and was behind a metal fence , (bars like in a PRISON), in the area that the UC Squash club now occupies.So did BP have access to this area? We look at the stripes on the prisoner’s outfit and we see that two of those stripes blend into the 2 bars in the window. Those stripes probably represent the streets on SF, ( hilly) Powell Street in particular and they lead us to the top of the hill where we find similar windows ( UC club or the Fairmont). The lawyer ( educated, good orator usually), is holding some papers and the negative space made by his fingers might represent the piers below Powell St. The shape of the paper is somewhat “ Pyramidal ,( Transamerica bldg). The prisoner is gazing at it . Now this lawyer elf/ person is dressed in a colonial outfit so this might tie into the UC club founded in the late 1800s or there might be another tie in to something colonial. The lawyer might just represent the Justice part ( Stanford Court). The lawyer is pointing to his briefcase, ( handle in particular) When ever I see a pointing finger then that’s the direction to take to the casque/ case. . So the handle forms the letter (C. or maybe a U ) or is it something else. We also see the letters G and E on the briefcase. So then what do the letters CGE represent? ( was there a sign that said Club Garden Entrance?) That might be the secret to figure out. ![BC90-E13-B-9-BE0-46-DC-9-E6-A-11706001-D3-C5](https://i.postimg.cc/qMqQ2brw/BC90-E13-B-9-BE0-46-DC-9-E6-A-11706001-D3-C5.jpg)
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Post by choice on May 30, 2024 14:52:08 GMT -5
Lawyer is holding tissue he's blowing his nose/sneezing into. Tissue box/cask below. The garden was open to public. That's how the statue got stolen in the 70s and returned soon after. It was stolen again decades later when it was on the sidewalk planter. Maybe the prison scene relates to the theft even-though no one was charged.
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Post by diceycat on May 30, 2024 15:19:01 GMT -5
Regardless wether it’s a tissue or just paper , it’s still has the overall shape of the Transamerica bldg. I think that’s a book ( Stroud wrote a book about his birds),, along with a stack of papers on top by the lawyers right side leg below the paper he is holding. It could very well have something to do with the theft. Something had to make the news around the late 70s up to 1980 to lead us to the location of the casque. Anyways that was a possibility for a dig site based on this drawing. If it was in that garden then it’s long gone unless someone knows where they dumped the soil during construction of the squash court.
And those 11 moons in the painting are for Apollo 11. Apollo is the key . Apollo was the half brother of Hermes.
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Post by choice on May 30, 2024 20:04:29 GMT -5
12 moons! Hermes is one of the twelve Olympians.
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Post by choice on May 31, 2024 20:52:54 GMT -5
That white line is most likely a surface scratch that happened on the original painting later on. It does not exist in the book image.
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Post by kwendall on May 31, 2024 21:03:59 GMT -5
Maybe but there's a shadow from the paint apparently, eg black paint creating a shadow intentionally
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Post by choice on May 31, 2024 21:46:07 GMT -5
As you can see there are other scratches in that area, more visible in the dark area. That specific defect is right above the outline of her fingertip and dark area of the block. ![](https://i.imgur.com/godAd5l.jpeg)
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Post by kwendall on May 31, 2024 22:53:20 GMT -5
Take a good look around the whole white part. There is a shadow that goes away from the fingertip too. This might be a scratch but I think there is a chance it's more than that. Since it resembles the volcano, I would imagine there could be some explanation here.
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Post by choice on Jun 1, 2024 0:47:42 GMT -5
As three wise women once said: Don't go chasing waterfalls Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to I know that you're gonna have it your way or nothing at all But I think you're moving too fast
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Post by diceycat on Jun 1, 2024 9:06:12 GMT -5
Now ,I wouldn’t totally give up on GGP as the place where the casque is located but then again that University Club Garden can’t be ruled out either. I found this quite interesting . As we know Apollo and Hermes were a pair. We see the name “Judah” ,( JJP) mentioned in the story. So does this mean the park in NYC needs to tie into an Apollo or Hermes theme, if they are supposed to be bookends? ![3687-A479-DD18-47-C5-891-F-A3-D226569535](https://i.postimg.cc/y6fjLfy9/3687-A479-DD18-47-C5-891-F-A3-D226569535.jpg)
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Post by diceycat on Jun 1, 2024 15:39:12 GMT -5
I’ll give you my take on page 65. We see the “Genie “ between two large Palms up in the air . If you check out the Fairmont Hotel you can see on the rooftop above the Tonga room three large Palms around a fountain / pond in the middle that has a series of lights pointing skyward. Again all speculation. ![44-AF1742-F815-4-FD9-9-FCF-E060-C13-E67-D5](https://i.postimg.cc/BQnJyNSd/44-AF1742-F815-4-FD9-9-FCF-E060-C13-E67-D5.jpg)
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