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Post by The Wolf on Jul 12, 2018 7:01:36 GMT -5
Glad to talk to you again as well. Yes, dancing with the stars, Gypsies and even our own sun is a star. Also, apparently Mr. Fenn gave the owner of CC a phone puzzle/hint once. It reads like a joke, especially if you do the implied math and get a non-phone number. But if you read it literally the answer is 0 hints but could be a *. This was my take on it anyway using what I believe is Fennish puzzle wizardry. www.findingfenn.com/single-post/2018/04/20/Fenns-Phone-Puzzle
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Post by lookinup on Jul 12, 2018 9:01:52 GMT -5
Another method used in aviation - Finding the airport code of an area of interest can assist in gaining even more insight:
Especially useful are how many there actually are in EACH STATE:
Those circles and lines could be mighty useful!
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Post by goldwatch on Jul 12, 2018 10:58:28 GMT -5
Another method used in aviation - Finding the airport code of an area of interest can assist in gaining even more insight:
Especially useful are how many there actually are in EACH STATE:
Those circles and lines could be mighty useful!
Yeah, I just got started on that. But it's hard to figure. The airport I wanted to see on the state lists isn't there. It's the one related to the Katy RR track and seems to fit a good pit stop. I guess it's too small to be on such a list. The lines, what I found, wowed me. But I've found stuff on the edges, too. Wheels right through OH!'s Kirwin, for one, and another to my strong support for HOB that blew my mind. I think I saw Elvis, lol. I know, people think I'm full of it. No one ever listens, and that's nothing new.
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Post by lookinup on Jul 12, 2018 15:05:13 GMT -5
Try "Airfields" as well. Much can also be garnered from those - Following are old Airfields near Katy - Hope it works for you:
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Post by goldwatch on Jul 12, 2018 20:09:10 GMT -5
Try "Airfields" as well. Much can also be garnered from those - Following are old Airfields near Katy - Hope it works for you:
It does indeed. OK, I'm going to add some to this. Fire up Google Earth. Do a search for "Castle Gardens Petroglyphs, Wyoming". Now, raise and lower your elevation until you see the roads, and how they look just like a cow's head. You can even see the tongue sticking out, which reminds me of the illustrations in the book where the boys have " cowlicks". Here, there was a GE icon for a " Cattle Kate Monument", right in the middle of this area. By the time I found this, GE had taken down the old picture links. And now they have even removed the icons. (But you can find all sorts of business icons!) But "Cattle Kate" was Ellen Liddy "Ella" Watson. She was railroaded by the cattle barons, and illegally hung as a cattle rustler, which seems to have been a trumped up charge because the barons wanted to control all the lands. Nearby is a small airport. Gas Hills Airstrip. Remember the story of FF flying the helicopter, and stopping for gas along the highways? This airstrip is along the Gas Hills Road, which is Hwy 212 and runs up to Hwy 20 and 26, right in the middle between Shoshoni and Casper. It turns into Arminto Rd from there (north of 26). Remember OH!'s stuff on this? Arminto, -arm into-, like the illustration and story of Forrest and Skippy in "The Long Ride Home". "Road Trips" ( mysteriouswritings.com/featured-question-with-forrest-fenn-and-the-thrill-of-the-chase-treasure-hunt-road-trips/ ) ended up here. Now, Draw a line from Katy, Texas, to Fenn Mountain, Montana. And it goes right through this area. I have more important stuff connected to this, but that's up to people to find for themselves.
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Post by goldwatch on Jul 12, 2018 20:20:36 GMT -5
I forgot something to my above post. I drew a circle centered on roughly the ear area of the cow (where the old Cattle Kate icon used to be), and with the circumference reaching Buffalo, Wy. Since cows were in play. That circle goes right through OH!'s Kirwin area, and Brown Mountain in particular.
OH! got his Kirwin area from connections to Arminto Road, if I remember right.
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Post by CJ on Jul 15, 2018 13:10:47 GMT -5
Try "Airfields" as well. Much can also be garnered from those - Following are old Airfields near Katy - Hope it works for you:
It does indeed. OK, I'm going to add some to this. Fire up Google Earth. Do a search for "Castle Gardens Petroglyphs, Wyoming". Now, raise and lower your elevation until you see the roads, and how they look just like a cow's head. You can even see the tongue sticking out, which reminds me of the illustrations in the book where the boys have " cowlicks". Here, there was a GE icon for a " Cattle Kate Monument", right in the middle of this area. By the time I found this, GE had taken down the old picture links. And now they have even removed the icons. (But you can find all sorts of business icons!) But "Cattle Kate" was Ellen Liddy "Ella" Watson. She was railroaded by the cattle barons, and illegally hung as a cattle rustler, which seems to have been a trumped up charge because the barons wanted to control all the lands. Nearby is a small airport. Gas Hills Airstrip. Remember the story of FF flying the helicopter, and stopping for gas along the highways? This airstrip is along the Gas Hills Road, which is Hwy 212 and runs up to Hwy 20 and 26, right in the middle between Shoshoni and Casper. It turns into Arminto Rd from there (north of 26). Remember OH!'s stuff on this? Arminto, -arm into-, like the illustration and story of Forrest and Skippy in "The Long Ride Home". "Road Trips" ( mysteriouswritings.com/featured-question-with-forrest-fenn-and-the-thrill-of-the-chase-treasure-hunt-road-trips/ ) ended up here. Now, Draw a line from Katy, Texas, to Fenn Mountain, Montana. And it goes right through this area. I have more important stuff connected to this, but that's up to people to find for themselves. I'm not sure why you'd draw a line from Katy. FF mentions the Katy Railroad, but only in terms of it coming through Temple, if I recall correctly. That said, if you want to explore airports, I would suggest that you also look at waypoints... I had an interesting solve a while back based on crossing the lines.. From TARRY BANK to SCANT and then from WISE TO BLAZED (I think), made an interesting X right around Dulce, NM.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 15, 2018 23:41:51 GMT -5
Glad to talk to you again as well. Yes, dancing with the stars, Gypsies and even our own sun is a star. Also, apparently Mr. Fenn gave the owner of CC a phone puzzle/hint once. It reads like a joke, especially if you do the implied math and get a non-phone number. But if you read it literally the answer is 0 hints but could be a *. This was my take on it anyway using what I believe is Fennish puzzle wizardry. www.findingfenn.com/single-post/2018/04/20/Fenns-Phone-PuzzleWolf -- good to see you posting again! Your phone analysis over at FindingFenn (which I just saw for the first time about 5 minutes ago) is spot-on. I'm oh-so tempted to give you guys another supporting piece of evidence about stars, asterisks, asterisms as being essential to the poem solution. We all know about the asterisk at the end of page 15 in the Important Literature chapter of TTOTC -- the only chapter in the book that terminates with an asterisk instead of a little solid brown square. And I thought I was the only one that had figured out that when Forrest said, "The treasure is out there waiting for the person who can make all the lines cross in the right spot," he was referring to an asterisk. (The key for me was the word "all"; in two-dimensional geometry, with the exception of parallel lines, *all* lines cross in a single point -- or at ALL points, if the lines are identical. But Forrest doesn't say make the lines cross; he says ALL the lines. This strongly suggests more than 2. An asterisk certainly qualifies: three line segments crossing one another in a single point.) So ... rather than blurt out another asterisk hint that Forrest has cleverly hidden (that as far as I know no one else has posted), let me challenge you all to solve it by providing a couple wee hints. It's found in the final chapter of OUAW, or if you don't have the book you can find it in Passages 4 - The Price of Freedom on Dal's site. Final hint: it's similar to the phone puzzle.
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Post by voxpops on Jul 16, 2018 1:20:12 GMT -5
Both Zap and Wolf are correct, IMO. A few people may remember that quite a while back I posted a series of images which included an "asterisk." Because it was a zoomed in slice of a Google satellite image (the asterisk is small), the picture was blurry, but the form was quite recognizable. You can find the asterisk at the starting point (at the right time of year). Its "twin" can be found elsewhere. The journey is long and arduous, and you must make a whole series of lines cross in the right places.
Oh, and I should add that Passages 4 goes to the heart of the matter.
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Post by The Wolf on Jul 16, 2018 7:19:26 GMT -5
Also, apparently Mr. Fenn gave the owner of CC a phone puzzle/hint once. It reads like a joke, especially if you do the implied math and get a non-phone number. But if you read it literally the answer is 0 hints but could be a *. This was my take on it anyway using what I believe is Fennish puzzle wizardry. www.findingfenn.com/single-post/2018/04/20/Fenns-Phone-PuzzleWolf -- good to see you posting again! Your phone analysis over at FindingFenn (which I just saw for the first time about 5 minutes ago) is spot-on. I'm oh-so tempted to give you guys another supporting piece of evidence about stars, asterisks, asterisms as being essential to the poem solution. We all know about the asterisk at the end of page 15 in the Important Literature chapter of TTOTC -- the only chapter in the book that terminates with an asterisk instead of a little solid brown square. And I thought I was the only one that had figured out that when Forrest said, "The treasure is out there waiting for the person who can make all the lines cross in the right spot," he was referring to an asterisk. (The key for me was the word "all"; in two-dimensional geometry, with the exception of parallel lines, *all* lines cross in a single point -- or at ALL points, if the lines are identical. But Forrest doesn't say make the lines cross; he says ALL the lines. This strongly suggests more than 2. An asterisk certainly qualifies: three line segments crossing one another in a single point.) So ... rather than blurt out another asterisk hint that Forrest has cleverly hidden (that as far as I know no one else has posted), let me challenge you all to solve it by providing a couple wee hints. It's found in the final chapter of OUAW, or if you don't have the book you can find it in Passages 4 - The Price of Freedom on Dal's site. Final hint: it's similar to the phone puzzle. Hi Zap, I have been away for sometime and have not tracked your posts but you were a guy I followed a lot as your thinking is bang on and you gave Seeker the gears! lol I have long thought of the stars * and two years ago I gave this mischievous parody prediction on CC www.chasechat.com/showthread.php?tid=7466&highlight=prediction+with+%22balls%22 Many of those predictions have come truth since then, which encourages me. I am surprised when OUAW came out, no one put that together but there are no shortage of star seekers now. I have a cool story about those lines crossing that occurred long before FF released that quote, which brought a smile to my face. Ok, "The Price of Freedom" my favourite chapter and it is the last one of his last book. I assume you all know why I find it special! lol I would love to hear your explanation ZAP, but you did see the X made from trees above the wolf shadow? The other star in that book is Captain America shield. Now where have I heard "Shield" before, oh yeah, that is the name of the guy biking across America. Speaking of FF latest quotes has anyone looked up the meaning of Randy? Wolf-shield! So what is with these wolves, wolfie, Beowulf,etc? I know it is crazy maybe loco lobo can explain it!
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 16, 2018 23:29:22 GMT -5
Hi Wolf: great to cross-post with you here; perhaps a slightly different audience from HoD. :-)
Yes: A while ago here I discussed the double X's formed by the trees above the wolf shadow in the last chapter of OUAW. You've been at this twice as long as I have, so I figure you've got a beat on the #28 significance. :-)
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Post by The Wolf on Jul 17, 2018 7:52:32 GMT -5
Hi Wolf: great to cross-post with you here; perhaps a slightly different audience from HoD. :-) Yes: A while ago here I discussed the double X's formed by the trees above the wolf shadow in the last chapter of OUAW. You've been at this twice as long as I have, so I figure you've got a beat on the #28 significance. :-) Hi Zap, great job BTW on the OUAW differences, I have a list as well but never published it yet due to lack of time, but I really like yours. One thing I noticed about FF from my perspective is pay attention to the more subtle things he says or doesn't say. My question is why he doesn't remember/know why he kept two copies. The number one to be specific?
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 17, 2018 22:38:07 GMT -5
Hi Wolf: I figured if Forrest said to pay attention to the anomalies, inconsistencies, subtle mistakes, etc., I wasn't going disappoint. When the school kids asked him "What is blaze?" and he answered, "Anything that stands out," I figured it was important to pay attention to altered bumper stickers, reversed ancient sayings or song lyrics, misattributed quotes, misspelled song titles, and so on. I think Forrest has been having a great deal of fun thinking up new ways to deliver the same hints over and over, whether through wordplay, images or illustrations.
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Post by The Wolf on Jul 17, 2018 22:57:03 GMT -5
Hi Wolf: I figured if Forrest said to pay attention to the anomalies, inconsistencies, subtle mistakes, etc., I wasn't going disappoint. When the school kids asked him "What is blaze?" and he answered, "Anything that stands out," I figured it was important to pay attention to altered bumper stickers, reversed ancient sayings or song lyrics, misattributed quotes, misspelled song titles, and so on. I think Forrest has been having a great deal of fun thinking up new ways to deliver the same hints over and over, whether through wordplay, images or illustrations. Hi Zap, I really love your approach. It has been mine for about 4 years. Back then, everyone and I mean everyone thought all his stories were just FF talking about his life. I ran across something that tied in his jokes, letters from seeks, etc. and everyone thought I was crazy. Goofy was ready to commit me. lol Four years later FF has made it a lot more obvious and more are catching on, now the minority are poem only folks. It is good to have company and I noticed you discovered the same SB 90 aberration and reversed Tony Bennett lyrics. I find it takes many aberrations to them to line them all up to make something concrete out of it, but hard work and patience eventually pays off. I had even ruled out photo shopped illustrations but a few years ago, I found something very convincing in a most unlikely place that is super cool. I will have to recover the chest to prove it though. Another thing I believe is a master puzzle maker will always place the hints or answers to clues and hints right under your nose and in the most obvious places. The one that solves the poem will likely understand that very well. All speculation, but the evidence it mounting. Even though many refer to my technique as "kitchen sink" my method (as explained in my book) poem before book. So the poem always leads and trumps everything else, but the everything else proves the clues in the poem.
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Post by xfactor on Jul 18, 2018 12:05:19 GMT -5
I'm not real savvy on forums but like to follow along sometimes. This blog seems quiet in comparison to others and more my speed. This thread seems interesting and not really in line with what Mr. Fenn has said about how to solve the poem. Why do folks put so much time in on the comments and scrap books looking for hints? This seems like it may be the reason the treasure has not been found thus far. I don't post comments anywhere...but have read everything there is to read @ Dal Neitzel's site; there is a lot there.
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