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Post by goldwatch on Jun 29, 2017 21:13:00 GMT -5
A fox dressed as a hound is a poser, a fake, a fraud....deceiver, decoy, pretender, put-on, cheat, actor, hook, double-crosser. ----------------------------------------------------------- In the book, Fenn describes the oil painting by Gilbert Gaul as black and white, depicting "a man standing on a wooden bridge holding a smoking pistol, with a dead dog at his feet bleeding all over the boards." Bleeding = sad, depressed, mournful, heavy-hearted, weeping Boards = timber, shelter, administration, bureau (chest), committee, bench (banco), lumber Rahrah, in relationship to my OP and the Norse mythology, a fox is a trickster. That's Loki. And Loki is the father of Fenrir, the wolf, which slays Odin in the battle of Ragnarok, and then is slain by one of Odin's sons. As mentioned, Fenrir is sometimes considered the same as Garmr, the wolf that guards the rainbow bridge that leads to Hel (hell). Odin is the father of Thor. Sound familiar? I think some of this is "fun story stuff" related to solving the quest. But I wonder if your posted take here isn't also a part of it. Forrest may be seeking, in a sense, freedom from a personal "hell". I don't know. Or maybe simply trying to make amends of a sort. In regards to the painting, is the soldier the warrior god Odin? Is the dead dog the wolf Fenrir? Is the bridge actually a bridge? Is the blood, what, a sorrow? |
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Post by rahrah on Jun 29, 2017 22:45:28 GMT -5
Norse mythology plays heavily into the symbolism and words Fenn uses!
"But I wonder if your posted take here isn't also a part of it. Forrest may be seeking, in a sense, freedom from a personal "hell". I don't know. Or maybe simply trying to make amends of a sort."
Have you looked through the synonyms for "rainbow"....along with the general first impressions of dreams, colors, prism, there is also monstrosity, nightmare, delusion, ghost, etc. While the book and poem are light and filled with hope for those searching, I think there is something much darker hidden beneath that Fenn is making amends for, or feels an obligation of sorts, thus the 'chase' as a means to an end for Fenn.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jun 30, 2017 1:31:12 GMT -5
Be careful treading into the "outside knowledge" category. If your solve requires it (e.g. head pressures, Bible verses, magnetic deviation, history, foreign languages, etc.) it's probably wrong.
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Post by heidini on Jun 30, 2017 8:27:05 GMT -5
Outside knowledge might help you understand something that actually is far a more simple but you needed the complex knowledge to get to that point.
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Post by goldwatch on Jun 30, 2017 8:27:23 GMT -5
Be careful treading into the "outside knowledge" category. If your solve requires it (e.g. head pressures, Bible verses, magnetic deviation, history, foreign languages, etc.) it's probably wrong. Zap, that's why I separate it as "story". That's different than "solve". And keep in mind that even though "story" might be different than "solve", the words might still be hints just like any other words. I do think there's an underlying purpose to this quest, and I think that is to point out that we, all of humanity, are the same. Here's how. The fox is the classic example. In every part of the world, every culture, the fox is "the trickster". Asia, Africa, Europe, America, even though peoples were completely separated, this is the case. We note the nature of things, and we see the same things and think the same deeper spiritual thoughts. Likely most of this was carried along as humanity spread out of Africa and around the world. And that is the point. We all come from the same beginnings. If that's the case, it would be a shame to miss the point. Yes, you don't need any of this to solve the quest. But that's like saying you don't need to go fishing if you can just find a fish on your hook. |
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Post by heidini on Jun 30, 2017 8:27:45 GMT -5
It's not that far out considering Forrest wrote "thanks to Thor."
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Post by heidini on Jun 30, 2017 8:29:28 GMT -5
Norse mythology plays heavily into the symbolism and words Fenn uses! "But I wonder if your posted take here isn't also a part of it. Forrest may be seeking, in a sense, freedom from a personal "hell". I don't know. Or maybe simply trying to make amends of a sort."Have you looked through the synonyms for "rainbow"....along with the general first impressions of dreams, colors, prism, there is also monstrosity, nightmare, delusion, ghost, etc. While the book and poem are light and filled with hope for those searching, I think there is something much darker hidden beneath that Fenn is making amends for, or feels an obligation of sorts, thus the 'chase' as a means to an end for Fenn. I agree that there's something much darker beneath and I agree with Fenn is making amends of sorts. I came to this conclusion from a different angle. |
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Post by robjohnson on Jun 30, 2017 8:55:38 GMT -5
Page 5 ttotc - four cards and a joker? Imposter, poser etc. rahrah? And he traded the Gaul for a small French watercolor, sold it for $1500, Gaul $5500, loss of $4000. Page 120 father made $4000, traded fish for potatoes and other goods. Page 115 - trade for Olga's casita. Learned cost could also show a profit. Black & white is a cost. Colors a profit (colorful fish)? Just thinking.
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Post by heidini on Jun 30, 2017 9:23:32 GMT -5
What cards are in blackjack? Do you hold 4 cards and a joker?
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Post by jakraven on Jun 30, 2017 9:48:26 GMT -5
What cards are in blackjack? Do you hold 4 cards and a joker? Up to 8 decks of 52 cards, heidini.
There are no jokers, and you hold no cards - they're dealt face-up to the table in front of you until you bust or say stop.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jun 30, 2017 14:15:00 GMT -5
What cards are in blackjack? Do you hold 4 cards and a joker? Up to 8 decks of 52 cards, heidini.
There are no jokers, and you hold no cards - they're dealt face-up to the table in front of you until you bust or say stop.
Depends on where you play blackjack. Many casinos deal all the players' cards down and you DO handle them. You scratch the felt with the cards for a hit, wave your hand over the cards to stand, add chips to signal double, or flip the cards up to signal you've busted or if you want to split a pair. That said, I ~prefer~ when the cards are dealt up to the players. Makes card-counting easier. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 19:22:32 GMT -5
Note: I have not read these posts. I have researched the painting. Personally painting with a dead dog involves some strength and the brush strokes cannot be good.
JMHO.
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Post by npsbuilder on Nov 5, 2018 1:44:44 GMT -5
I agree that the tc is a way for ff to get some peace with himself. Somehow I followed a trail the lead me to the "Sins of the Pharaohs" that lead me to a line in the poem. The way I have broken down "I've done it tired, and now I'm weak" is done it tired is for Hypocrisy and now I'm weak is for Perjury. Which leads to the 10% of book proceeds going to charity which is Tithing for the Sins. THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION and MOST LIKELY WRONG. I have been down a thousand different paths to date.
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Post by goldwatch on Nov 6, 2018 23:12:35 GMT -5
I agree that the tc is a way for ff to get some peace with himself. Somehow I followed a trail the lead me to the "Sins of the Pharaohs" that lead me to a line in the poem. The way I have broken down "I've done it tired, and now I'm weak" is done it tired is for Hypocrisy and now I'm weak is for Perjury. Which leads to the 10% of book proceeds going to charity which is Tithing for the Sins. THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION and MOST LIKELY WRONG. I have been down a thousand different paths to date. I've come to look at it as a testament to the sins of mankind that never end. A "look at what we do" statement that goes along with a wish for peace. Not a personal remorse, but one for all to share. I keep running into reminders as I search for answers to the clues and hints. But who can tell? |
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Post by The Wolf on Nov 23, 2018 8:46:33 GMT -5
The dead dog is an interesting aberration. I believe it is the metaphor of who is Brown, but the big hint is in the colour: black&white just like the Oreo, another aberration. Did you know Oreos are sandwiches? Bring an Oreo sandwich can be another black and white hint. The trick is to identify the significance of black and white.
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