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Post by Jenny on May 9, 2020 16:43:49 GMT -5
What will it take to 'know' you have the first clue? Is it really just the finding of the treasure chest? How could someone find the first clue and not know it? Do expect that people will somehow *know* for sure once they have found the first clue? No, many people have found the first clue but they didn’t know it. Until someone finds the treasure they will not know for sure that they have discovered the first clue.
Or they might have found it without realizing it? Yesmysteriouswritings.com/forrest-fenn-quotes-on-where-warm-waters-halt-and-the-first-clue/ |
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Post by bird on May 10, 2020 6:00:47 GMT -5
The 1st time I went I missed the spot I had been looking for by over a half mile. I am disabled from lung cancer and when I got out of the truck thinking I was in the right place I passed out 10 feet infront of the truck, I didn't have supplemental oxygen or get accumulated to the altitude. after I sat up I realized I was beside a old grave from about 1850 era, the oblong ring of stones over it and the remains of a wooden cross. I found 1 other grave and a ring of stones used for a fire. I spent 1/2 hour up there and took off driving to get to a lower altitude. I kept looking at google earth for 2 months trying to figure out the difference in the pictures I took and the view from google earth and finally found where I had actually been--I found the spot from the story about the 5 or 6 gypsy girls that danced around a fire, when viewed from the sky it was plain to see exactly what the place was but only when you knew the locations of the graves and fire ring.
That was in Oct. 2016.
Hawkeye
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Post by me9 on May 10, 2020 8:08:59 GMT -5
Mr. Fenn: In the past when you have said that several people had figured out the first two clues and then went right past the other clues, would you say that they got lucky and just happened to go to the correct starting area, not fully understanding the poem, or would you say that they did indeed solve the first two clues by understanding the poem and clues? C Searchers have routinely revealed where they think the treasure was hidden and walked me through the process that took them on that course. That’s how I know a few have identified the first two clues. Although others were at the starting point I think their arrival was an aberration and they were oblivious to its connection with the poem. Playing a hunch is not worth much in the search and those who start out by looking for the blaze, are wasting their time.f mysteriouswritings.com/questions-with-forrest-fenn-and-the-thrill-of-the-chase/ |
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Post by astree on May 10, 2020 9:09:32 GMT -5
me9 In my view, that quote And others about going to retrieve the treasure with confidence and certainty show that it is possible to identify the clues before going to the site. Which is why I put that “someone” in the quote below in a different group than the general “they” that forrest is discussing. So I believe that it is possible to identify and be confident in the identification of the first and the remaining clues before going to retrieve the treasure What will it take to 'know' you have the first clue? Is it really just the finding of the treasure chest? How could someone find the first clue and not know it? Do expect that people will somehow *know* for sure once they have found the first clue? No, many people have found the first clue but they didn’t know it. Until someone finds the treasure they will not know for sure that they have discovered the first clue.
Or they might have found it without realizing it? Yesmysteriouswritings.com/forrest-fenn-quotes-on-where-warm-waters-halt-and-the-first-clue/ |
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Post by earthshaker42 on May 10, 2020 15:46:03 GMT -5
What will it take to 'know' you have the first clue? Is it really just the finding of the treasure chest? How could someone find the first clue and not know it? Do expect that people will somehow *know* for sure once they have found the first clue? No, many people have found the first clue but they didn’t know it. Until someone finds the treasure they will not know for sure that they have discovered the first clue.
Or they might have found it without realizing it? Yesmysteriouswritings.com/forrest-fenn-quotes-on-where-warm-waters-halt-and-the-first-clue/Isn't that a lot like asking if you have found the right McDonalds? No way to know until you have matched up the other clues on a map with your McDonalds. But you could easily be there because you hope it's the correct one but gave up because you couldn't find not far but too far to walk, or you couldn't find the home of brown, or you just wanted some fries. So even if you were right, you would never know. |
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Post by thrillchaser on May 12, 2020 8:57:30 GMT -5
forrest said the first clue is the hardest to find. several have found it. what's up with the others if they are easier to find.
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Post by zaphod73491 on May 12, 2020 13:03:49 GMT -5
forrest said the first clue is the hardest to find. several have found it. what's up with the others if they are easier to find. They aren't. Searcher progress (or the lack thereof) after solving the first two clues is evidence of that. Halogetter and I have recently been discussing the poem difficulty issue over on Dal's: dalneitzel.com/2019/06/16/the-poem-part-seven/#comment-939129 |
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Post by voxpops on May 12, 2020 14:56:55 GMT -5
forrest said the first clue is the hardest to find. several have found it. what's up with the others if they are easier to find. They aren't. Searcher progress (or the lack thereof) after solving the first two clues is evidence of that. Halogetter and I have recently been discussing the poem difficulty issue over on Dal's: dalneitzel.com/2019/06/16/the-poem-part-seven/#comment-939129Although I would have agreed with this a while back, I now think that Forrest's assertion re clue difficulty was correct. It's very easy to fool yourself that you have the correct WWWH, and then what follows is the usual crow pie (I have the T-shirt!). Nailing WWWH is probably only going to happen after years of work. All the effort put in before that is to attune the mind so that you'll recognize it eventually, IMO. It may even be necessary to establish a "home base" before WWWH is understood fully in terms of geography, relationship to the poem/map, and significance. I think it would actually be counterproductive to "stumble" on it at the beginning of one's chase, which may very well be why people have been unable to progress beyond the first two clues, or have been unaware of where they were. Once WWWH becomes evident and forms part of your "big picture", you will probably have the tools ready to progress fairly rapidly after that. I think one of the problems is that we tend to limit our thinking due to preconceptions and habit. I know that's something I've struggled with. The other thing to remember is that Forrest was not "playing games" when he established the Chase. There is a purpose behind this treasure hunt and an overarching theme. We need to tap into that to be able to make progress. If you like to use the goldilocks analogy, the poem is "just right" because it fulfills its function perfectly, being unsolvable without the key. So how do you find the key? You have to ask. |
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Post by astree on May 13, 2020 5:54:23 GMT -5
. First, heres the quote under discussion, for reference FENN: Yeah, I have some advice. Read the book. And then study the poem. Over and over. Read it over and over. Maybe even memorize it. And then go back and read the book again looking for hints that are in the book that are going to help you with the clues that are in the poem. That’s the best advice that I can give. You have to find out - you have to learn where the first clue is. They get progressively easier after you discover where the first clue is. www.eisradio.org/item/003/I’m not sure if I agree with fForrests statement; It may depend on the difference between what and where the first clue is |
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