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Post by morpheus221 on Jan 15, 2023 16:05:11 GMT -5
-239 is a prime number -ignoring parentheses would yield same result -surrounded by known equations each with letter “C” ; also an error in Circumference equation. -surrounded by Serial Numbers of old Texas Instruments computer components
Unclear what authors are hinting towards
One idea to consider. Maybe consider forming words with the numbers as they would appear on an old calculator (example EGG = 993). Does anyone remember doing this?
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Post by choice on Jan 16, 2023 15:16:30 GMT -5
The only "identical twins" in that page are the two C²'s and they are completely different. C² = A² + B² C² = E/M E M A B spells out BEAM which goes with fulcrum. Unless you are ABBA fan, A² + B²!
Alternatively, lever and fulcrum could be a BEAM of light and prism. ROYGBIV may be represented by 7 formulas/components around the beam.
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Post by choice on Jan 16, 2023 21:55:14 GMT -5
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Post by morpheus221 on Jan 17, 2023 17:21:38 GMT -5
Hi Choice. This puzzle is definitely going to require some ‘out of the box’ thinking. The parentheses are clearly intentional. I wondering if it’s telling us to focus on certain numbers. If you solve the first equations you are left with the following:
1) 168, 12, 45, 14, 239
Second:
2) 180, 59, 239
At a glance, they seem meaning less (clearly not coordinates related to the hunt or numbers that have been emphasized elsewhere in the book)
If we use the fulcrum as a clue, could they represent mass/weight of something particular. I was thinking of atomic weights. C = 12 N = 14 etc. could they spell a message if we get the correct match for element/atomic weight?
The problem we run into is that these numbers have changed for certain elements over the years. We would need a good chemistry resource from the late 70s/early 80s.
Any other thoughts what these numbers could represent?
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Post by Jenny on Jan 27, 2023 14:50:19 GMT -5
I think:
180, 45, 14
is a consideration as well.
Maybe a book code of some sort?
And 239 - upside down on the calculator might be BEZ? ZEB backwards ..... but that doesn't seem to lead anywhere.
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Post by choice on Jan 27, 2023 19:53:37 GMT -5
Just when I thought I was out, you pull me right back in! Looking at the long formula, it can be simplified: 12X14 + 12 + 9X5 +14 = 239 12X14 + 14 makes 13X14 so 13X14 + 9X5 +12 = 239 13,14,9,5 are the digits to π to 5 decimal places. 3.14159
If the wrong formula C=πr² is intentional then πr²=2πr and that means r = 2 Is that a way of reducing the radius of the hunt to 2 miles?
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Post by canuck on Jan 27, 2023 21:14:32 GMT -5
Just when I thought I was out, you pull me right back in! Looking at the long formula, it can be simplified: 12X14 + 12 + 9X5 +14 = 239 12X14 + 14 makes 13X14 so 13X14 + 9X5 +12 = 239 13,14,9,5 are the digits to π to 5 decimal places. 3.14159 If the wrong formula C=πr² is intentional then πr²=2πr and that means r = 2 Is that a way of reducing the radius of the hunt to 2 miles? Nice work Choice! Pi has to be the correct answer, it’s another reason for the Pisces hints. Pi-sces
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Post by choice on Jan 27, 2023 22:03:33 GMT -5
True dat. If we continue with the formula: 13X14 + 9X5 + 12 = 239 Pi digits + 12 Digits 1 2 add up to 3 or C. Pi C
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Post by choice on Jan 30, 2023 20:59:49 GMT -5
There's another way of reducing radius of search. In the "eclipse" story he mentioned 2 X 18 minute intervals. R is 18th letter of alphabet. So 2r. Number 12 in the long equation could be significant too. It's very probable that the "13X14 + 9X5" part of the equation represents Pi since these 6 digits are value of Pi grouped two by two but in reverse order (31-41-59). Leaves us with 12. If we assume 12 is for C (1+2, 3rd letter of alphabet) to be consistant with all the other Pi-C references in the puzzles then Pi X C = 239. Substitute C with 2r.Pi and solve for r, we get r = 12.
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Post by morpheus221 on Jan 31, 2023 12:21:05 GMT -5
Choice. That’s interesting idea. Almost like a Venn diagram whereby we reduce the search area based on geometric shapes/grids from the clues. For example, start with the 100 mile radius, combine with the ‘aviation triangle’, combine with another 12 mile search radius (where is the center point?)
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Post by choice on Feb 1, 2023 18:43:37 GMT -5
We're not done with that equation yet! We solved the 1st formula for r (radius). Now we need to figure out the sides and Hypotenuse for a right-angled triangle (A² + B² = C²). Using the 3,4,5 rule, the most common values for the sides and Hypotenuse for a right-angled triangle are 3,4,5... 6,8,10... 9,12,15... and so on. I get why he used parentheses now. We need to manipulate the numbers to come up with A² + B² = C². Looking inside of the parentheses we have 12 and 9. So most probable solve would be 12² + 9² = 15² We start at: ( (12 x 14) + 12 ) + ( 9 x 5 ) + 14 = 239 ( (12 x 12) + 12 x 2 + 12) + ( 9 x 5) + 14 = 239 or ( (12 x 12) + 36 ) + ( 9 x 5 ) + 14 = 239 or (12 x 12) + ( 9 x 4 ) + ( 9 x 5 ) + 14 = 239 or (12 x 12) + ( 9 x 9) + 14 = 239 or (12 x 12) + ( 9 x 9) = 225 or 12² + 9² = 15²
Now we have the values of Radius of a circle + Hypotenuse and sides of a right-angled triangle.
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Post by choice on Feb 1, 2023 19:17:57 GMT -5
The TI components are main parts you needed to make a basic GRID for a keyboard. SN74148N is an 8 TO 3 converter, SN74LS90N is a decade counter, SN7410N NAND gates are usually used for buffer and SN74S288N EPROM for micro-coding/machine language programming. This makes a 10 X 8 grid for a simple keyboard. Keyboards of the day didn't have all the function keys and numeric pad. Commonly used PC's of the day were Apple II and TRS-80.
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