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Post by The Wolf on May 28, 2017 16:27:25 GMT -5
Seannm,
Your words:
"Now I always try and view your words as if they are meant for someone other than myself, if only to avoid confirmation bias, and instead just try to decipher your meaning behind them. So after combining these two mentions I have to consider if someone, whose wearing a smile, is now looking AT the right spot or in very close proximity to it.
To which the very next day January 12th 2017, a "Random Word" from Forrest was initiated, which were new words not part of a pre-released set:
*If you tell your solve to a friend, don’t be surprised if she shops at Gucci while you fill your cart at Walmart. f
Again, Coincidence, sure maybe, but maybe not. "
Now I remember five months ago you brought this up and completely lost it when I said it was confirmation bias. So I am aware you are very sensitive to this so I am going to word this the best I can so I would appreciate it if you could for this one time only, simply answer my question ( no innuendo) without getting emotional. Just stick to the facts or state your theory, please. Here we go...
After six months, you are still stressing this and I am scratching my head as to what your point is. Assume I was hasty in claiming this was confirmation bias. You emphasize you are aware of the effect and thus seem to indicate you unaffected by bias. Yet the next day, you bring up your email to FF and cite the changing of Mr. Fenn's words in the WW. You say it is a coincidence.
What exactly are you implying the coincidence is here? What is your point behind this statement? You come across as if this is some very profound discovery, yet I am not seeing anything new. What I am I missing? What is your point? Please explain everything don't leave anything left to guess.
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Post by The Wolf on May 28, 2017 20:30:02 GMT -5
Seannm, Your words: "Now I always try and view your words as if they are meant for someone other than myself, if only to avoid confirmation bias, and instead just try to decipher your meaning behind them. So after combining these two mentions I have to consider if someone, whose wearing a smile, is now looking AT the right spot or in very close proximity to it.
To which the very next day January 12th 2017, a "Random Word" from Forrest was initiated, which were new words not part of a pre-released set:
*If you tell your solve to a friend, don’t be surprised if she shops at Gucci while you fill your cart at Walmart. f
Again, Coincidence, sure maybe, but maybe not. "Now I remember five months ago you brought this up and completely lost it when I said it was confirmation bias. So I am aware you are very sensitive to this so I am going to word this the best I can so I would appreciate it if you could for this one time only, simply answer my question ( no innuendo) without getting emotional. Just stick to the facts or state your theory, please. Here we go... After six months, you are still stressing this and I am scratching my head as to what your point is. Assume I was hasty in claiming this was confirmation bias. You emphasize you are aware of the effect and thus seem to indicate you unaffected by bias. Yet the next day, you bring up your email to FF and cite the changing of Mr. Fenn's words in the WW. You say it is a coincidence. What exactly are you implying the coincidence is here? What is your point behind this statement? You come across as if this is some very profound discovery, yet I am not seeing anything new. What I am I missing? What is your point? Please explain everything don't leave anything left to guess. Wolf, I believe you are once again highlighting and focusing on the wrong portion of my post. And since your words are again coming across as very pompous and snide, I'll instead refer back to our previous words that speak for themselves, and let others make up their own mind whether or not I "completely lost it" as you say, because I do not view that as a accurate statement by you. www.chasechat.com/showthread.php?tid=2809&page=15 (just the facts here, no emotion) Wolf if you cannot overlook the past and commit to a civil discourse here then I suggest you just ignore my posts. Otherwise I would appreciate it if you would drop the negative and pompous rhetoric. Seannm Let me know when you are ready to discuss the chase on a mature level, until then I will assume this is as I initially remarked, confirmation bias. As per your request, ignore it is.
And for the record, it was you who asked the question, I just asked for clarification.
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Post by The Wolf on May 28, 2017 22:24:10 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 12:03:32 GMT -5
Riddles are hard. It's easier to look for the blaze. The path of least resistance. A futile path in this search. But it's human nature.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 20:21:11 GMT -5
I think there is a truth here. It has changed drastically. I do not have the patience to explain. I trust you are right.
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Post by rahrah on Sept 1, 2017 16:17:31 GMT -5
All, Forrest has said, some time in 2014 or prior to, that people will be surprise at where the treasure is (sic), why is that. Could it be because the spot that the treasure rests may not be viewed as something us searchers would consider to be what we had envisioned to be a special spot? I harken back to the lesson that Forrest learned in the "Experienced Skinner" along with the title of the book "The Thrill of the Chase" and quite possibly what is actually important is the thrill of the chase not necessarily that which we seek, the treasure. So it may be easy to infer that the reason we will be surprised at where the treasure is, is because we envisioned something that our minds inferred not what Forrest said, if that makes sense to you. This may also explain why those who had been so close had walked right on past the treasure because they were allowing outside sources to force fit an idea into their minds as to the location of the chest. " You guys seem to be hung up on waterfalls. Don't try to change my poem to fit your ideas." fSeannm In my solve, the location of the chest - if I'm correct - isn't what you'd immediately think of as a special, dear, fond or secret (for Fenn) place ... but on reflection about the area, you can understand why it's there and why Fenn chose it. |
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Post by kpro on Sept 1, 2017 16:20:47 GMT -5
All, Forrest has said, some time in 2014 or prior to, that people will be surprise at where the treasure is (sic), why is that. Could it be because the spot that the treasure rests may not be viewed as something us searchers would consider to be what we had envisioned to be a special spot? I harken back to the lesson that Forrest learned in the "Experienced Skinner" along with the title of the book "The Thrill of the Chase" and quite possibly what is actually important is the thrill of the chase not necessarily that which we seek, the treasure. So it may be easy to infer that the reason we will be surprised at where the treasure is, is because we envisioned something that our minds inferred not what Forrest said, if that makes sense to you. This may also explain why those who had been so close had walked right on past the treasure because they were allowing outside sources to force fit an idea into their minds as to the location of the chest. " You guys seem to be hung up on waterfalls. Don't try to change my poem to fit your ideas." fSeannm In my solve, the location of the chest - if I'm correct - isn't what you'd immediately think of as a special, dear, fond or secret (for Fenn) place ... but on reflection about the area, you can understand why it's there and why Fenn chose it. Rah rah !! Did you get out late summer botg? How did it go? |
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Post by rahrah on Sept 2, 2017 13:29:56 GMT -5
In my solve, the location of the chest - if I'm correct - isn't what you'd immediately think of as a special, dear, fond or secret (for Fenn) place ... but on reflection about the area, you can understand why it's there and why Fenn chose it. Rah rah !! Did you get out late summer botg? How did it go? We've had a crazy summer with family things that have come up unexpectedly (namely my dad isn't doing well, he's 82, still very independent, but starting to decline) so I've been to NY a few times, but can't seem to get time carved out to get to my location....I'm hoping sometime in October will open up since the weather should still be okay there! |
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Post by deeepthkr on Sept 2, 2017 13:42:58 GMT -5
Actually, Seannm, the phrase is " alone in there". There's no way FF could know he is alone within the boundaries of a forest or wilderness area or park (especially a park the size of YNP). Ergo, the "in there" to me implies a ... small space, a place where he can see the boundaries and know for a fact that he is alone. Since he has ruled out a cave, the only distinctive place I can think of where he would know he was alone is: an outdoor amphitheater, an alcove, or a crevice. If he means an area that is much bigger than an amphitheater, alcove, or crevice, then he is not being honest when he inserts the word "alone". Drifter |
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Post by deeepthkr on Sept 2, 2017 13:52:19 GMT -5
This is a word puzzle, IMO, so think about the letter "I" alone in a word. And "with" my ....The word "with" has a lone I. "And hInt of rIches...Both hint and riches have a lone I in them. Let's look at "it". A lone I again. New and old are elements of TIME. The word "time" has a lone I in it. "It" has to have an antecedent, like many have discussed. Is "it" actually TIME? My point is put the maps down till you have discovered the method, then the clues and at this point the map will be useful. The first "I" in the poem isn't necessarily FF, maybe it's just the letter I.
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Post by heidini on Sept 4, 2017 21:34:18 GMT -5
Welcome back, drifter. I like what you just said about about the irrelevancy of land ownership/ management. In regards to the alone statement- I feel forrest may have said he can be alone in his thoughts surrounded by a group of people.
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Post by voxpops on Sept 7, 2017 13:31:25 GMT -5
I am currently looking into the possibility of trespassing being the ONLY way to retrieve the chest. Turning us all into hardened criminals. Lol. I know jail cells are cold. I'd be willing to go to jail for a million dollars. Please be careful. I really believe it's on public land. |
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Post by rahrah on Oct 2, 2017 14:53:07 GMT -5
I've found the word 'dear' to be loaded with a ton of different meaning, from beloved to confidential....in fact, many imply a place that isn't necessarily beloved; synonyms like private, high, excessive, costly, overboard, wasteful, obtrusive, etc. should be considered when working on the poem!
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Post by swanka on Oct 24, 2017 17:59:59 GMT -5
That assumes the phrase "alone in there" is talking about Forrest. .....If you're talking about that first line being the POV of some ... fish ... I beg to differ. .. Drifter  hmmmm interesting because on FFs map wind river canyon is a fish and the eye is same location as Kirwin and the hidden image on Crow Creek |
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Post by seannm on Jul 17, 2018 20:52:46 GMT -5
All, I have also put out a video on my thoughts as it relates to Forrest “special” place: Enjoy youtu.be/6AfbGpk0OvQSeannm |
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