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Post by ohm on Nov 14, 2018 9:05:11 GMT -5
If anyone can find the exact quote of give it to a child or kid that would be helpful. I spent significant time searching and that quote is often taken out of context or has more implied meaning than the original. With that said, if the poem needs to be looked at in a simplistic literal manner. I think of Hymie (Get Smart) the robot type literal thinking and apply that to Where Warm Waters Halt. If you put aside what our intuitive brain seems natural, and totally look at this answer from a kid/child perspective, what answer do you see? I found a very obvious one and funny enough it happens to fit my WWWH location, but did not realize it until I dwelled on it longer. Nailing it down is important, if you follow the star. I wrote the detailed answer to that one on my searcher's blog if anyone is interested. If I remember correctly, it was in one of his bookstore interview videos. He states: Show the poem to a kid, they'll get it. |
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Post by The Wolf on Nov 14, 2018 10:55:12 GMT -5
If anyone can find the exact quote of give it to a child or kid that would be helpful. I spent significant time searching and that quote is often taken out of context or has more implied meaning than the original. With that said, if the poem needs to be looked at in a simplistic literal manner. I think of Hymie (Get Smart) the robot type literal thinking and apply that to Where Warm Waters Halt. If you put aside what our intuitive brain seems natural, and totally look at this answer from a kid/child perspective, what answer do you see? I found a very obvious one and funny enough it happens to fit my WWWH location, but did not realize it until I dwelled on it longer. Nailing it down is important, if you follow the star. I wrote the detailed answer to that one on my searcher's blog if anyone is interested. If I remember correctly, it was in one of his bookstore interview videos. He states: Show the poem to a kid, they'll get it. I am familiar with the paraphrase, but it was the exact wording I was not sure about. ie did he use "kid" or "child"? |
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Post by ohm on Nov 14, 2018 18:02:34 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, it was in one of his bookstore interview videos. He states: Show the poem to a kid, they'll get it. I am familiar with the paraphrase, but it was the exact wording I was not sure about. ie did he use "kid" or "child"? The word kids is just a bit more personal as in your own kids and child or children is used more formal. Both have the exact meaning, so It really doesn't matter in my opinion because a teen starts at thirteen.. |
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Post by The Wolf on Nov 14, 2018 18:43:21 GMT -5
I am familiar with the paraphrase, but it was the exact wording I was not sure about. ie did he use "kid" or "child"? The word kids is just a bit more personal as in your own kids and child or children is used more formal. Both have the exact meaning, so It really doesn't matter in my opinion because a teen starts at thirteen.. I hear yah, but context is important and my philosophy is all about aberrations and hints, so the words he chooses does make a difference with how i solve and confirm the clues |
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Post by zaphod73491 on Nov 14, 2018 20:35:59 GMT -5
This kids question seems to come up every few months, as does its answer. I've given a partial history on this a couple times on Dal's over the years; Locolobo has done a deeper dive on more than one occasion, including within the last month. The short answer AFAIC is that a searcher who was over-complicating the question of WWWH back in 2013 was given the suggestion by Forrest to show the poem to his kids -- that they'd get it. That searcher's takeaway was that he needed to basically dial it back a bit -- that it wasn't as complicated as he was making it.
These admonitions ONLY applied to WWWH, not the whole poem. Totally my opinion, but no "kid" is going to solve the poem -- it includes puzzle techniques that children and even most teenagers have never been exposed to.
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Post by drpepperwood on Nov 20, 2018 16:00:32 GMT -5
This kids question seems to come up every few months, as does its answer. I've given a partial history on this a couple times on Dal's over the years; Locolobo has done a deeper dive on more than one occasion, including within the last month. The short answer AFAIC is that a searcher who was over-complicating the question of WWWH back in 2013 was given the suggestion by Forrest to show the poem to his kids -- that they'd get it. That searcher's takeaway was that he needed to basically dial it back a bit -- that it wasn't as complicated as he was making it. These admonitions ONLY applied to WWWH, not the whole poem. Totally my opinion, but no "kid" is going to solve the poem -- it includes puzzle techniques that children and even most teenagers have never been exposed to. Thank you! That does clear up a lot of why FF said show the poem to his kids. Maybe that word halt is important. Halt at the gate entrances in Yellowstone before continuing to warm waters. Five entrances to choose from on the map forms a star (if a star has anything to do with the poem). Gather up five solves at the entrances and see if they fit? The lines true do cross like FF said they would and draw lines. One thing that bugs me is the map FF made. It is "way" to "small" to have a tight focus on any area! It useless in my opinion. So what are we suppose to do with that map? Maybe not use it like a real map? |
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