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Post by TheCoyWonder on May 5, 2020 18:13:59 GMT -5
I, personally, like to hear the inflection in his voice. Sometimes the way something is said is just as important as what is said.
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Post by susb8383 on May 5, 2020 19:25:31 GMT -5
Agreed.
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Post by j3ff77 on May 15, 2020 12:32:06 GMT -5
For June, whoever gets picked, can you ask a question like: Does key 2 contain letters and numbers? or Is there a cipher involved in manipulating the info for key 2? we need to narrow this down a bit more. There is just too many possibilities on what it can be at this point.
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Post by balloonsrfun on May 16, 2020 14:03:55 GMT -5
I would suggest that the question be about the length of the Key. Maybe ask is the required information we need to find for Key 2's answer 10 or less characters long? Or maybe ask if we HAVE to use the street view of a map service like Google, to get the required information that we need for Key 2 or can we just use a regular map? or Does Key 2 consist of more than 1 part, but less than 4? lol I think we should try to come up with questions sort of like that last one, so that we can sort of get 2 answers for one question. Also, where does he say that there aren't any special characters in it?
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Post by j3ff77 on May 16, 2020 19:17:49 GMT -5
Lukas has confirmed no special characters in key 2. I just don't remember where it was posted. I'm sure someone else remembers where it is located and can link to it for you.
I agree that we need to maximize the question to get as much info as possible.
Things that I feel will help move us forward:
1. What is the length of key 2 (tough to get it narrowed down in a yes/no format) 2. Does key 2 contain numbers and/or letters (easy to ask this and know that it does include both or doesn't. If not, then we just have to figure which it does contain but we would have a direction. 3. What info are we manipulating (Chevron prices, ACE yellow words, Chinook Inn sign, Goldrush center, Sacred Gifts 101) Lots to choose from. hard to narrow down unless you add a few to the question and hope he gives additional info like last month. 4. How many pieces of info are in key 2 (another tough one to narrow down in a yes/no format)
I think any of these will move someone forward quite a bit.
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Post by texttext on May 16, 2020 20:12:35 GMT -5
Maybe ask if the chest is accessed via a financial service website.
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Post by balloonsrfun on May 16, 2020 22:56:29 GMT -5
Maybe ask if the chest is accessed via a financial service website. Personally, I don't think that, that question would help us. I think that any information that we need to know about the chest will become very apparent once we figure out the key. No where have I read, (please correct me if I am wrong) that in order to win we have to Solve Key 1, Key 2 AND find a hidden chest! I think that once we have both keys, and put in the second key, it will automatically re-direct us to the chest and we will put in our (Paypal ) info and get our money! That is why I think that even finding the chest before finding Key 2, has no advantage to those that haven't found it. Maybe there WAS at one point before Lukas, provided us with the Key Checkers, but now I think whether it is another phone number, website, or keyword, we will have ALL the information needed to "find" the chest and WIN! I do think however, possibly knowing where the chest is, may let the discoverer to sort of reverse engineer certain parts and apply them to that RED LINE STRETCH.....But even this, must not be very likely, since the are at least 3 finders that we know of, and they are apparently just as lost as we are with Key 2. So, I really think that asking ANY question about the chest, would be fruitless and a waste IMO. I think what will really help us ALL the most is to know the length of Key 2, or to know how many parts make up the Key.
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Post by susb8383 on May 17, 2020 19:38:52 GMT -5
This might be a little off topic, but does anyone think there's an extra step involved? So instead of the red line area giving us key 2, maybe the red line area gives another phone number that gives us key 2. He did say that there are feedback mechanisms in place that let us know we found the correct keys. (not "Key 1.")
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Post by balloonsrfun on May 17, 2020 20:24:57 GMT -5
I definitely think it will be something like that. Susbs, you were one of the finders of the chest right? Can you at least confirm that X marks the spot, is consistent to the location? As I said before, except for possible reverse engineering efforts, knowing the location of the chest, doesn't seem like it would help anyone out? Also, and this goes for the other finders of the chest, have you been checking your key 2 attempts with the chest, or still just been using the key checker? I think I am really starting to zero in on this key, but it is a process, and also, I am currently writing another thread. Also, another question that might help us is to ask if the key length is an odd number from 1-15 or something like that?
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Post by TheCoyWonder on May 18, 2020 1:35:26 GMT -5
I personally believe key 2 is another 10 digit phone number that activates the 2nd feedback mechanism. To me "feedback mechanism" means phone number. ..but I can certainly be wrong.
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Post by balloonsrfun on May 18, 2020 4:59:44 GMT -5
I do as well Coy, but just in case it wasn't, then asking an Odd/Even type of question would narrow it down for us. I am still working on that new thread I was talking about, it will be a long one and full of spoilers lol.....but I am beginning to see a pattern with the riddle. In short, I will explain how I think this hunt is going and will go.
Stanza 1-----Description of the Chest and introduction to the hunt
Stanza 2----An introduction to the 1st Key and the basic info of what it will entail, Ten cuts (Michigan cut in 10 district parts) Ten pins (Term for bowling) Turn, (A musical term, that suggests music/notes are involved)
Stanza 3: Describes 1st piece of Key 1 Stanza 4: Describes 2nd piece of Key 1 Stanza 5: Describes 3rd piece of key 1
End Result: phone number that says congrats and says we need a book:
Stanza 6: Introduction to the 2nd Key-------and led to the "man" that we needed, which in turn gave us another phone no to call, which gave general directions to the place (now known as "the red line stretch" Although, I still haven't found 21? I found 22, and mountain homes, but not 21? Also, I had a question about the "man" when people was finding the cipher text, the clues they gave to others to help them was where would you find him, etc, implying it was a grave, but that isn't where I found him, and in fact, on the place that I found him, the cipher text is dated as Feb 2020, but the picture is dated April 2019? How could this be?
Stanza 7: Describes 1st piece of Key 2? Stanza 8: Describes 2nd piece of Key 2? Stanza 9: Describes 3rd piece of Key 2 and hints about location that will be revealed of the chest?
Stanza 10: Confirming that the Chest was indeed made of 1's and 0's and digital.
I know I would keep this short so I will say one more thing, I think that we get our first number from the chapter we used of the book 17?
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Post by susb8383 on May 18, 2020 5:37:33 GMT -5
This might be a little off topic, but does anyone think there's an extra step involved? So instead of the red line area giving us key 2, maybe the red line area gives another phone number that gives us key 2. He did say that there are feedback mechanisms in place that let us know we found the correct keys. (not "Key 1.") Although on the other hand, if a phone number were needed to get key 2, this wouldn’t fit with Lukas’s comment that we don't HAVE to call a phone number. Maybe Coy is right that the key itself is a phone number. But it would have to be represented by both letters and numbers imo.
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Post by balloonsrfun on May 18, 2020 5:54:12 GMT -5
You wouldn't HAVE to call the phone number, you would put it in the key tester and it will re-direct you to the treasure chest and then you put both keys in there and you win! lol I'm guessing anyway. Also, you don't HAVE to CALL the number, you can text it and you get a message that way too!
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Post by goldhunter on May 18, 2020 7:04:17 GMT -5
As far as "21" goes....I never figured it out, either. But, it is related to the game of Blackjack in which an ace is a high or low card.
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Post by balloonsrfun on May 18, 2020 7:33:39 GMT -5
I thought about that also gold hunt3r....could 21 be our first number for key 2? 2117? There HAS to be something that tells us what to do, if this hunt really can be solved with just the riddle alone as Lukas says it can? We shouldn't have to depend on his monthly yes/no question hints.
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