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Post by silentpartner on May 28, 2020 17:33:34 GMT -5
And I used the 9th stanza for encyption/decryption like the Windsor minihunt for my 1st step Didn't participate in this one, what does this mean?
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Post by tabfrankie on May 28, 2020 17:56:53 GMT -5
The 2nd mini hunt was a 4 line riddle, each line was a reference to something pertaining to the word windsor. You then used Windsor as a key word and applied a columnar transposition to the actual riddle. Then he like rotated it and you apply the same transposition and key word and you got the winning phrase.
It was cool because I dont think I could make a double encryption that is a readable, and sensical text both before and after manipulation if my depended on it.
Anyway, I think that is what stanza 9 is. My hope was to get something that actually spelled out a word and then numbers like BOB SIX TWO SEVEN, and maybe we will find that, but I think I found another clue instead.
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Post by fishmini on May 28, 2020 18:03:50 GMT -5
The 2nd mini hunt was a 4 line riddle, each line was a reference to something pertaining to the word windsor. You then used Windsor as a key word and applied a columnar transposition to the actual riddle. Then he like rotated it and you apply the same transposition and key word and you got the winning phrase. It was cool because I dont think I could make a double encryption that is a readable, and sensical text both before and after manipulation if my depended on it. Anyway, I think that is what stanza 9 is. My hope was to get something that actually spelled out a word and then numbers like BOB SIX TWO SEVEN, and maybe we will find that, but I think I found another clue instead. As far as I remember, the text that needed to be decrypted in the mini hunt was actually an additional bit of text he provided that was not readable text. Just a bunch of letters. But if you've gotten something by decrypting the stanza itself, he may have been able to pull it off. But it seems less likely considering he wrote this riddle before the mini hunt. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying haha
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Post by silentpartner on May 28, 2020 18:05:57 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm testing it out and getting a lot of gibberish!
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Post by tabfrankie on May 28, 2020 19:04:17 GMT -5
Oooh, I didn't do the hunt, just watched the video. I missed there were 2 texts. Lol I spend an embarrassing amount of time trying to make a huge anagram that would work after 2 transposition. I was super impressed!
Still, I did a second manipulation after the playfair and did get 3 words to come up. Again, maybe nothing.
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Post by silentpartner on May 28, 2020 19:09:30 GMT -5
Ok so after finding the dates, the phrase works with the prices from the main street. Can we go back to this? How did you get dates?
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Post by tabfrankie on May 28, 2020 20:42:25 GMT -5
My kids are needy, and I've hit a dead end on making sense of this, so I'll write out what I then clarify after I dig up my notes.
Using equis in a playfair cipher, I entered the last 2 lines of stanza 9. I took here the hint begins to mean literally start here. So the nest 2 lines let greed not come between you and real treasure this is what I have to pull up. Gain for clarity but I put it in a snail trail grid that wraps the text around.
The phrase gas if vday came up. Vday is may 8th 1945 and one of the views of the gas prices is may.
It may well be a stretch.
Either way I think the the question to ask should be whether the input for the 2nd key is entirely visable from street view or something like that.
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Post by nicoledigsahole on May 28, 2020 21:04:20 GMT -5
My kids are needy, and I've hit a dead end on making sense of this, so I'll write out what I then clarify after I dig up my notes. Using equis in a playfair cipher, I entered the last 2 lines of stanza 9. I took here the hint begins to mean literally start here. So the nest 2 lines let greed not come between you and real treasure this is what I have to pull up. Gain for clarity but I put it in a snail trail grid that wraps the text around. The phrase gas if vday came up. Vday is may 8th 1945 and one of the views of the gas prices is may. It may well be a stretch. Either way I think the the question to ask should be whether the input for the 2nd key is entirely visable from street view or something like that.
I'm having trouble using a playfair cipher to recreate what you found. I tried using "Let greed not come between you Real treasure lies in friends" with equis as the key. I can't seem to get anything using encrypt or decrypt. I tried using rumkin.com/tools/cipher/playfair.php. Did you do it a different way?
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Post by silentpartner on May 28, 2020 21:09:20 GMT -5
My cipher answer doesn't seem to have a d, so I can't find the word day, but maybe I entered something wrong. I think we should ask if both pieces of the manipulation technique are found on the map or Google street view.
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Post by thedutchcoder on May 28, 2020 21:25:53 GMT -5
If you properly use the playfair cipher with "Equis" as the keyword, you get "GINMNIIATNPFTHQASNVQVGWRIPVEMRNIFEIPIGUSIUTALYVGFI"
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Post by nicoledigsahole on May 28, 2020 21:30:58 GMT -5
If you properly use the playfair cipher with "Equis" as the keyword, you get "GINMNIIATNPFTHQASNVQVGWRIPVEMRNIFEIPIGUSIUTALYVGFI"
That's what I keep getting too. I'm not sure how to get "gas if vday"? Is there another step?
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Post by tabfrankie on May 28, 2020 21:32:24 GMT -5
I may have to apologize to everyone in advance if I got you all excited for nothing.
I'll try and rerun it. I was running it forward and reverse trying to get a result.
If I messed it up I am emabarassed and super sorry.
I played with the cipher result for a few days so I'll go back and try and find out where I got it in the first place
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Post by thedutchcoder on May 28, 2020 21:33:28 GMT -5
If you properly use the playfair cipher with "Equis" as the keyword, you get "GINMNIIATNPFTHQASNVQVGWRIPVEMRNIFEIPIGUSIUTALYVGFI"
That's what I keep getting too. I'm not sure how to get "gas if vday"? Is there another step?
Nah I think he's not using the correct cipher
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Post by silentpartner on May 28, 2020 21:37:07 GMT -5
No worries, tabfrankie, I think we're all in the same boat of "ooh! Is this a thing??" But we might all be way off. I wonder if the cipher is meant to result in a word or a phrase or just random letters.
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Post by tabfrankie on May 28, 2020 21:57:39 GMT -5
Thanks man. I've been so immersed in working with the stanza, I may have got myself turned around.
Just to make sure I'm not crazy I did find the string I got from the playfair, I will rework it in the morning to pinpoint what method I got it from. It was probably equis reversed or alphabet reversed.
The string is GINMNIIOAOPPFTHQASNVQAVWRIPAGMRNIFEIPIGSQESTAYDAVF
I then put the string into a grid. I'm pretty sure it was a snail or spiral. This is where I cant remember and need to find what was the pattern that gave me the words. Like if it started with the 1st letter in the center then outward clockwise, or counter clockwise, or if it started in a corner then wrapped Inward. Or from the top and then weaving back or forth.
I originally was running lines then putting then in grids to try and see if I could get a pattern that suggested a spelled out number to point me in a direction.
Again, sorry for getting everyone's Hope's up.
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