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Post by thedutchcoder on Jun 1, 2020 15:44:04 GMT -5
I agree about the distinction of alphanumeric, however, if you ask the question (Is Key #2 alphanumeric), then if the answer is yes, it could be any amount of a combination of letters and numbers that are from 3 to 30 amounts of characters long it could be KEY20291828181ISTHEANSWerNowG0 or it could be K3Y and imo wouldn't help us very much. If the answer is NO, then it could mean that it could be all numbers, or all letters, it opens too many possibilities to me? Sure, but I think length is not as important as format. I mean you only get to ask 1 question anyway, so I doubt we can formulate a question that gives us much more than 1 or 2 pieces of information
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Post by balloonsrfun on Jun 1, 2020 15:50:00 GMT -5
I'm sorry I disagree, I think the key length is what the majority of us needs to narrow down.
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Post by tabfrankie on Jun 1, 2020 15:59:35 GMT -5
I'm pretty comfortable with paypal as the chest. There are not a lot of options to have a $1000 "chest". American express was the only other possibility. If we ask if it is both letters and numbers and get a yes, then we are exactly where we are now. If its no,then that would change things, but it's a high risk move. Only my opinion tho. I'm about majority rule.
As far as submitting the question early, I'm all for. Let's give other forum folk a chance to log in who might be at work or whatever But yeah, if we can agree, that would be great
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Post by silentpartner on Jun 1, 2020 16:02:29 GMT -5
Don't we kind of already know that it's a mix of letters and numbers? Because he said there were no special characters in key 2, we know that a PayPal password has to have numbers and letters.
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Post by thedutchcoder on Jun 1, 2020 16:06:51 GMT -5
What I still find... odd... Is that he said you'll automatically find the chest when you have both keys.
I don't see how that would lead to a PayPal account, unless that was given as feedback in the key tester?
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Post by j3ff77 on Jun 1, 2020 16:13:02 GMT -5
What good is knowing the length of the key when we have way too many sources of info to manipulate? Now, knowing if it's a phone number would benefit because then we would know for sure what the built in feedback mechanism is for key 2.
I think we need prioritize the elimination or confirmation of areas of info that we need.
There's a long list to choose from: Goldrush center Chevron gas station prices ACE windows Chinook Inn sign By the Sea Hwy 101 1st st Sacred Gifts 101 Laundromat The list goes on...
A question that can eliminate or confirm any of these would definitely narrow the search.
Just my two cents.
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Post by tabfrankie on Jun 1, 2020 16:29:04 GMT -5
Getting a trail to follow as to what information we are supposed to work with has always been my preference. We have some ideas for the method of manipulation, but too many for the info itself. My issue was I could not come up with a yes/no format. I suppose we could list half the areas. If yes then we narrowed our field by 50%, and same if no.
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Post by navelgazer on Jun 1, 2020 17:27:14 GMT -5
My vote is still for a location clue: Is the password info readable in a single street view frame?
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Jun 1, 2020 17:32:10 GMT -5
I did a test today to see if I could create a PayPal password for my personal account that was only numbers. I could.
1029384756 (10 numbers mind you, a phone number) worked.
I've since changed it, but it breaks the notion that it has to be letters and numbers.
::UPDATE:: Letters need at least one # to work as a password. So all letters, can not be done. One number must be added to make it an official password with PayPal.
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Post by tabfrankie on Jun 1, 2020 18:23:30 GMT -5
So after this round of discussion we have
1) is the 2and key units final form 10 inputs or less
2) is the 2and key alphanumeric
3) location question listing places in Hopes of eliminating location
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Post by dalakita on Jun 1, 2020 18:35:43 GMT -5
So after this round of discussion we have 1) is the 2and key units final form 10 inputs or less 2) is the 2and key alphanumeric 3) location question listing places in Hopes of eliminating location I think questions 1) and 2) should be combined (ie, is it an alphanumeric string of length 10 or less?)
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Post by balloonsrfun on Jun 1, 2020 18:39:33 GMT -5
So after this round of discussion we have 1) is the 2and key units final form 10 inputs or less 2) is the 2and key alphanumeric 3) location question listing places in Hopes of eliminating location Ultimately, it is YOUR question, so you should ask the question that YOU think will help YOU the most. If knowing the length of the key, AND having a very good idea of whether or not it is a phone number, then choose the question about 10 inputs or less. If you think that knowing for sure that the key has both letters AND numbers, no matter if the length is 3 characters or 30 long, will help you the most, then go with number 2, if you are unsure about the location view, and knowing that little piece of info would help you getting closer to figuring out the key, then choose number 3. Whatever question that you ask, please don't leave a whole lot of "wiggle room" like some of the past questions have been, like the watery tragedy one etc.... I hope that you can get it asked soon, so that he will answer it soon. I would really like to get back to working on this with fresh KNOWN ideas. I personally would like the know the key's length, but that's me.
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Post by thedutchcoder on Jun 1, 2020 18:42:43 GMT -5
What good is knowing the length of the key when we have way too many sources of info to manipulate? Now, knowing if it's a phone number would benefit because then we would know for sure what the built in feedback mechanism is for key 2. I think we need prioritize the elimination or confirmation of areas of info that we need. There's a long list to choose from: Goldrush center Chevron gas station prices ACE windows Chinook Inn sign By the Sea Hwy 101 1st st Sacred Gifts 101 Laundromat The list goes on... A question that can eliminate or confirm any of these would definitely narrow the search. Just my two cents. I know one of the hints leads to the red strip, but doesn't the HP cipher directly lead to Ace's Hardware? What I'm trying to say is: I think the information we're looking for is on or around Ace's Hardware, so I'm unsure if anything too far south (like the Chevron station) would be an option? I do think some info is south of Ace, because why would he mark that part if the street if the cipher leads to Ace directly? I think you can see it from the hardware store. But I should probably post that in the appropriate stanza topic
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Post by balloonsrfun on Jun 1, 2020 18:45:21 GMT -5
So after this round of discussion we have 1) is the 2and key units final form 10 inputs or less 2) is the 2and key alphanumeric 3) location question listing places in Hopes of eliminating location I think questions 1) and 2) should be combined (ie, is it an alphanumeric string of length 10 or less?) In my opinion, this leaves open too many possibilities if the answer is NO. If it is yes it would be GREAT! But if no, then we wouldn't know which part was no. Is it alphanumeric but 11 or more characters in length? is it numbers only, but more than 10 characters, is it letters only no numbers, is it 10 letters only, but no numbers etc?
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Post by tabfrankie on Jun 1, 2020 18:53:48 GMT -5
I've been trying to work on a way to get a step toward where to get the Information for the key or if it requires a deep internet dive, but honestly, I cant put together a yes/no that would be as helpful as asking if its 10 or less.
Also, combining alphanumeric and less than 10 inputs can make the answer depend on both qualifiers, what if it is not alphanumeric, but is 10 or less? That could be a no that gives us very little to work with.
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