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Post by crm114 on Aug 30, 2019 11:31:47 GMT -5
I guess I've wandered around enough looking for all sorts of things. A replica fallen tombstone in a field of grass, a pile of rocks, a fire ring. I eventually talk myself out of those things because they may be stumbled upon and investigated by a non-searcher over the long haul if the hunt lasts 100 years or more, and that isn't supposed to happen.
Yet something should be obvious to us at the right spot per the decoded words. We must follow the poem precisely, implying we are led precisely to a spot, within a few steps per other quotes. No one else would know the treasure is there but us, because no one will stumble upon it if they are in this precise spot. What in the world are we supposed to observe that no one else can?
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Post by 49 dollers on Aug 30, 2019 12:47:16 GMT -5
I guess I've wandered around enough looking for all sorts of things. A replica fallen tombstone in a field of grass, a pile of rocks, a fire ring. I eventually talk myself out of those things because they may be stumbled upon and investigated by a non-searcher over the long haul if the hunt lasts 100 years or more, and that isn't supposed to happen. Yet something should be obvious to us at the right spot per the decoded words. We must follow the poem precisely, implying we are led precisely to a spot, within a few steps per other quotes. No one else would know the treasure is there but us, because no one will stumble upon it if they are in this precise spot. What in the world are we supposed to observe that no one else can? I've often thought that the end of the rainbow would be two omegas carved into a rock face, and below the chest is hid. His story of making marbles in class using a piece of sandstone makes me think of petroglyphs and pictographs. And are we looking for a drawing close to the end. I am. But I also consider a random searcher could stumble upon that drawing without solving the clues.
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Post by Jenny on Aug 31, 2019 15:47:18 GMT -5
I guess I've wandered around enough looking for all sorts of things. A replica fallen tombstone in a field of grass, a pile of rocks, a fire ring. I eventually talk myself out of those things because they may be stumbled upon and investigated by a non-searcher over the long haul if the hunt lasts 100 years or more, and that isn't supposed to happen. Yet something should be obvious to us at the right spot per the decoded words. We must follow the poem precisely, implying we are led precisely to a spot, within a few steps per other quotes. No one else would know the treasure is there but us, because no one will stumble upon it if they are in this precise spot. What in the world are we supposed to observe that no one else can? Great Question! Can I add the following....... This is said about the Blaze: "While its not impossible to move the Blaze, it isn't feasible to try, and I'm certain it is still there"And the Q/A: What is a Blaze?
Anything that stands out. fSo once at final location, it would seem the Blaze is something that will stand out to us....... Can we assume this 'Blaze' is always visible, since at 12 feet it is unlikely we would miss the treasure? .
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Post by omni on Aug 31, 2019 19:42:50 GMT -5
Why do people assume the 'right spot' is referring to the blaze? Given the amount of frustration there has been around finding the HOB I'm becoming more inclined to think that's what it is. If you are standing in the right spot what the HOB is will become apparent to you, and it may not have occurred to you before that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 22:09:23 GMT -5
I guess I've wandered around enough looking for all sorts of things. A replica fallen tombstone in a field of grass, a pile of rocks, a fire ring. I eventually talk myself out of those things because they may be stumbled upon and investigated by a non-searcher over the long haul if the hunt lasts 100 years or more, and that isn't supposed to happen. Yet something should be obvious to us at the right spot per the decoded words. We must follow the poem precisely, implying we are led precisely to a spot, within a few steps per other quotes. No one else would know the treasure is there but us, because no one will stumble upon it if they are in this precise spot. What in the world are we supposed to observe that no one else can? Great Question! Can I add the following....... This is said about the Blaze: "While its not impossible to move the Blaze, it isn't feasible to try, and I'm certain it is still there"And the Q/A: What is a Blaze?
Anything that stands out. fSo once at final location, it would seem the Blaze is something that will stand out to us....... Can we assume this 'Blaze' is always visible, since at 12 feet it is unlikely we would miss the treasure? . In my opinion, the 12 feet is a natural well hole that snow melt runs into come spring and the chest is attached to a cable and this is why we need gloves to pull on the wet cable. If you've found this well hole and viewed the cable the pull up is 12 feet.
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Post by kk on Sept 1, 2019 12:02:35 GMT -5
I guess I've wandered around enough looking for all sorts of things. A replica fallen tombstone in a field of grass, a pile of rocks, a fire ring. I eventually talk myself out of those things because they may be stumbled upon and investigated by a non-searcher over the long haul if the hunt lasts 100 years or more, and that isn't supposed to happen. Yet something should be obvious to us at the right spot per the decoded words. We must follow the poem precisely, implying we are led precisely to a spot, within a few steps per other quotes. No one else would know the treasure is there but us, because no one will stumble upon it if they are in this precise spot. What in the world are we supposed to observe that no one else can? “If you are in the right spot, something you probably haven't thought about, should be obvious to you.” I understand his quote differently. It implies to me that it is in regards to a thought (such as a connection between two things), rather than a point of reference on the ground. However, I do think there is a point of reference(s) at the end that helps guide us. My thought is that one of those things could be telephone/utility line. I see a lot of telephone references in the poem. Answer, hear me, listen, halt/hold, wood, cold (call), etc. "The treasure is out there waiting for the person who can make all the lines cross in the right spot.-FF” I should add that I don't think the last point of reference is the blaze. I think the blaze is something else entirely.
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Post by firesnake on Sept 2, 2019 7:33:42 GMT -5
That's exactly where I am right now as well kk. I do have a specific utility line crossing with another line. Both lines crossing make an X as you'd write it as opposed to a right angled +. I counted the posts from the spot and it happens to be 66 (66,000) posts away from the starting area of WWWH.
He does mention phones a lot, plus his 107 scrapbook describes him keeping "an eye on the telephone lines".
"Hear me all and listen good" sounds like a two way conversation; he is talking and we are listening.
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Post by banjo on Sept 4, 2019 18:22:32 GMT -5
Do you think its just a number that you're supposed to call? Like in that one game show? Its been mentioned on the blogs before, but countered with reminders that the chest is out there for someone to find. However, maybe its the final clue that leads you there.
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Post by crm114 on Sept 5, 2019 10:01:51 GMT -5
I guess I've wandered around enough looking for all sorts of things. A replica fallen tombstone in a field of grass, a pile of rocks, a fire ring. I eventually talk myself out of those things because they may be stumbled upon and investigated by a non-searcher over the long haul if the hunt lasts 100 years or more, and that isn't supposed to happen. Yet something should be obvious to us at the right spot per the decoded words. We must follow the poem precisely, implying we are led precisely to a spot, within a few steps per other quotes. No one else would know the treasure is there but us, because no one will stumble upon it if they are in this precise spot. What in the world are we supposed to observe that no one else can? Great Question! Can I add the following....... This is said about the Blaze: "While its not impossible to move the Blaze, it isn't feasible to try, and I'm certain it is still there"And the Q/A: What is a Blaze?
Anything that stands out. fSo once at final location, it would seem the Blaze is something that will stand out to us....... Can we assume this 'Blaze' is always visible, since at 12 feet it is unlikely we would miss the treasure? . To me, everything he has said implies a unique connection between being physically present at the spot to notice it and not being able to discern the obvious thing from home. I suppose a blaze could fit that description, but being both impossible to move and invisible on Google Earth is difficult to achieve and would make it quite unique.
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Post by davebakedpotato on Sept 5, 2019 12:46:43 GMT -5
To me, everything he has said implies a unique connection between being physically present at the spot to notice it and not being able to discern the obvious thing from home. I suppose a blaze could fit that description, but being both impossible to move and invisible on Google Earth is difficult to achieve and would make it quite unique. Any feature on a vertical cliff face would likely be invisible to GE.
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Post by kaotkbliss on Sept 5, 2019 20:53:50 GMT -5
I don't recall Fenn ever saying you couldn't see the blaze from GE. I know he said you couldn't see the chest ("Because GE doesn't go down that far") If I recall correctly, he declined to answer if you could see the blaze from GE or not.
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Post by crm114 on Sept 5, 2019 21:28:23 GMT -5
I don't recall Fenn ever saying you couldn't see the blaze from GE. I know he said you couldn't see the chest ("Because GE doesn't go down that far") If I recall correctly, he declined to answer if you could see the blaze from GE or not. Jenny's coded words are specifically what I am interested in: mysteriouswritings.com/a-clue-to-the-coded-special-words-of-forrest-fenn-in-the-book-armchair-treasure-hunts/For which the answer was: "If you are in the right spot something you probably havent thought about should be obvious to you" If you can see the blaze from GE or on a map, it (something obvious) must be something else. If you can only see the blaze on the ground, why would you probably not have thought about it? I think in either case, it must be something besides the blaze he is referring to. At first, I thought "it's buried" might be the obvious thing, but I think everyone who goes out thinks about that, so it seems it can't be that. It is something few, if any people are thinking of present at the right spot that you can only observe when there. I suppose you could take "there" as having solved it armchair, but it's still something most haven't thought of.
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Post by foolsgold on Sept 6, 2019 12:54:29 GMT -5
This "something" is not a clue. It is the reason Forrest selected this spot for his treasure. And thus, the finder will immediately see the connection between this location and Forrest's history. I agree that this is one possible interpretation of the coded words. E.g. see how pretty the place is and realize why one would want to die there. Another possibility is that due to the chest being heavy, it will be obvious why Forrest made 2 trips and so probably what you'll have to do, too. "Perhaps, I should have brought a cart with wheels." Perhaps, it will be obvious why it's "in the wood" or "worth the cold."
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Post by zaphod73491 on Sept 6, 2019 12:55:01 GMT -5
Hi Drifter: "This 'something' is not a clue. It is the reason Forrest selected this spot for his treasure. And thus, the finder will immediately see the connection between this location and Forrest's history."
100% agree. And I believe I already know at least one geographic answer to that question, though I don't rule out the possibility that there could be a cultural reason as well that can't be known until there in the flesh.
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Post by goldilocks on Sept 6, 2019 16:04:12 GMT -5
OMG I got it..."If you are in the right spot something you probably havent thought about should be obvious to you"...apparent - a parent
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