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Post by crm114 on Jan 10, 2020 11:52:47 GMT -5
I'm not sure who he wants to find it, but doesn't it make sense the finder would be someone who thinks a lot like him?
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Post by davebakedpotato on Jan 10, 2020 12:40:22 GMT -5
Maybe another questions would be: "What type of person does Forrest Fenn 'really' think will find the treasure? Is it the redneck from Texas? And if so, why? If not, why?' He's mentioned imagination, logic and tenacity along the way, so someone with those skills. By mentioning families, and unemployed rednecks, he tells us he has likely sought to level the playing field as far as possible so the average person has a chance. There is the quote that an average person can succeed with the poem, ttotc and a good map/GE. So no special skills/background required. No need also to be skilled in riddles, drones or ciphers (sorry Jenny!).
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Post by davebakedpotato on Jan 10, 2020 12:42:10 GMT -5
I'm not sure who he wants to find it, but doesn't it make sense the finder would be someone who thinks a lot like him? I'm really not sure. Logically, I guess so but it's not the same skill to pick a lock versus making the lock.
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Post by Jenny on Jan 10, 2020 12:48:45 GMT -5
Maybe another questions would be: "What type of person does Forrest Fenn 'really' think will find the treasure? Is it the redneck from Texas? And if so, why? If not, why?' He's mentioned imagination, logic and tenacity along the way, so someone with those skills. By mentioning families, and unemployed rednecks, he tells us he has likely sought to level the playing field as far as possible so the average person has a chance. There is the quote that an average person can succeed with the poem, ttotc and a good map/GE. So no special skills/background required. No need also to be skilled in riddles, drones or ciphers (sorry Jenny!). What's the sorry for? I don't believe Forrest Fenn's poem includes any sort of code or cipher. I believe it is as he says it is: Straightforward and that we should marry the poem to geographic locations. From working with him on the 'Coded Words of Forrest Fenn' for my books, one of which remains unsolved, I actually feel very strongly there isn't any type of 'hidden message' in his poem. I feel it's all right there in plain sight and only an understanding of what it says is required. That has proven enough....lol...
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Post by crm114 on Jan 10, 2020 12:53:45 GMT -5
I'm not sure who he wants to find it, but doesn't it make sense the finder would be someone who thinks a lot like him? I'm really not sure. Logically, I guess so but it's not the same skill to pick a lock versus making the lock. Well, a good lock maker presumably tries to make locks that cannot be picked, but the way the lock works is out in the open for all to see. Forrest had the problem of making a lock that can only be picked one way and the way the lock works is subject to a lot of speculation. If he succeeded, there's no way around it but to figure out how in the heck he did that. Forrest's lock is likely to be unlike any other lock out there.
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Post by davebakedpotato on Jan 10, 2020 13:47:59 GMT -5
He's mentioned imagination, logic and tenacity along the way, so someone with those skills. By mentioning families, and unemployed rednecks, he tells us he has likely sought to level the playing field as far as possible so the average person has a chance. There is the quote that an average person can succeed with the poem, ttotc and a good map/GE. So no special skills/background required. No need also to be skilled in riddles, drones or ciphers (sorry Jenny!). What's the sorry for? I don't believe Forrest Fenn's poem includes any sort of code or cipher. I believe it is as he says it is: Straightforward and that we should marry the poem to geographic locations. From working with him on the 'Coded Words of Forrest Fenn' for my books, one of which remains unsolved, I actually feel very strongly there isn't any type of 'hidden message' in his poem. I feel it's all right there in plain sight and only an understanding of what it says is required. That has proven enough....lol... The sorry was as in "sorry you don't have an advantage over those of us who can't decipher the following anagram: 'geg' " !
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Post by luckylarry on Jan 11, 2020 19:25:21 GMT -5
I think it will be a retired computer guru who will simply gather the data and display the results. With help from Google Earth I've recently had success finding two buried treasure locations written about in an old book. I've been searching for the Fenn treasure chest this past week and I definitely found it. The blaze is an X marking the spot. Looking down is one and only one large rock with an animal dugout underneath that the treasure is hidden inside. One has to grab it quickly to avoid being bit as per instructions. Additional data includes: Soda Butte, Ranger Brown , Agate Creek Thank you for allowing me to join this forum. I'm not planning on gathering the treasure preferring the hunt more than the spoils. But I would accept a finders fee. 44 51 07 / -110 21 30 DMS
Lucky Larry
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Post by luckylarry on Jan 12, 2020 14:29:41 GMT -5
Well at least I give you something to look at. It was pointed out that my last location was too far for FF to make two trips in an afternoon but I found another trail using All Trails. This trail borders Cyrstal Creek but does not touch it (No paddle). The trail does not show up on the USGS topo map. It's 1.7 miles one way fitting the time frame for two trips to stash. The trail ends on top of an unnamed mountain where all views are down. But where is the blaze? Below and to the east is a patch of dead trees where the forest was ablaze in recent times. At the location to the west is a small patch of the same. Grab the treasure and leave before a dead tree falls upon you. 44°53'28.39"N 110°20'5.78"W
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Post by sledneck on Jan 13, 2020 1:01:02 GMT -5
Maybe another questions would be: "What type of person does Forrest Fenn 'really' think will find the treasure? Is it the redneck from Texas? And if so, why? If not, why?' The "redneck from Texas" was merely the audience for his book. I never heard anything about that being the kind of person who will find this thing. The origins of the phrase "redneck" are of some dispute. Most believe it came from farmers getting sun burnt on the neck. A southern anthropologist that I once guided fishing told me the term was from the coal miners of the Appalachian Mountains that striked against the "company", as they wore their red bandanas around their neck to help determine friend from foe during the violence that ensued. Not sure which description Forrest would agree with...
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Post by kk on Jan 15, 2020 17:59:45 GMT -5
These are answers from FF to Jenny's Q & A #5Q here: mysteriouswritings.com/six-questions-with-forrest-fenn-and-the-thrill-of-the-chase-treasure-hunt/ I am of the opinion that the person who finds the treasure will probably have many of these qualities/characteristics. I shortened his answers, so please see the link for the question and FF's answer in full. 1. "...but I believe not having much of a education gave me an advantage in some important ways. Not knowing what I was doing forced me to learn fast, and to not test the depth of the water with both feet." 2. "A few very important breaks luckily came to me accidentally." 3. "...discipline, gave me purpose, and demanded a good work code". 4. "Being a fighter pilot taught me to think fast and to depend on myself because most of the time there no one else was around." 5. "Owning a retail business taught me to hire people who were smarter than I was, and then sit down and leave them alone." (IN MY WORDS I think this equates to a willingness to listen to experience of other people and apply them when/where applicable) 6. "My assets are not unique to me but I was savvy enough to take advantage of what I had: imagination and guts, an awesome twosome." 7. "I had the ability to make important decisions right now and the wisdom to change them just as fast if necessary." 8. "And I was willing to hustle hard. One of my rules was, “Show me a man who owns a business and works an eight hour day, and I’ll show you a failure.”
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Post by theoretical on Jan 16, 2020 21:53:19 GMT -5
Who do you think will find Forrest's Treasure Chest? NOT NAMES, but type of person. Forrest writes in TTOTC: "There must be a few Indiana Jones types out there, like me, ready to throw a bedroll in the pickup and start searching, with a reasonable chance of discovering a treasure chest....." What will it take? A person who loves to explore and has Perseverance and Imagination mixed in with Knowledge of geography? A retired data analyst who can connect known data concepts with environmental scanning, and possesses imagination, time, luck, an adventurous spirit, and the ability to simplify might have decent odds. Please let me know if you know such a person and I will gladly hire her/him. 😀
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Post by heidini on Jan 16, 2020 23:16:40 GMT -5
Someone with a little maverick spirit, a little mettle, a good researcher, a nature lover, someone who can learn to adjust and someone that can listen.
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Post by davebakedpotato on Jan 17, 2020 1:38:42 GMT -5
Someone... who can learn to adjust and someone that can listen. These two are so important!
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Post by davebakedpotato on Jan 17, 2020 1:40:23 GMT -5
Who do you think will find Forrest's Treasure Chest? NOT NAMES, but type of person. Forrest writes in TTOTC: "There must be a few Indiana Jones types out there, like me, ready to throw a bedroll in the pickup and start searching, with a reasonable chance of discovering a treasure chest....." What will it take? A person who loves to explore and has Perseverance and Imagination mixed in with Knowledge of geography? A retired data analyst who can connect known data concepts with environmental scanning, and possesses imagination, time, luck, an adventurous spirit, and the ability to simplify might have decent odds. Please let me know if you know such a person and I will gladly hire her/him. 😀 So the guy from Forrest Fenn Learning Curve, when he retires then
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Post by me9 on Feb 13, 2020 8:28:44 GMT -5
I am not even close to solving your riddle. I’ve tried for months and nothing works. I am not asking for a clue to the treasure, I’m asking for a clue to the clues. Please help me. ~Mary. Dear Mz. Mary, The solve is difficult for many searchers because their minds think the clues are tougher to decrypt than they really are. Some say they are trying to think outside the box, as if the solution lies somewhere out there. Until now I have resisted telling them to get back in the box where their thoughts are comfortable and flow more easily. The blueprint is challenging so the treasure may be located by the one who can best adjust. To illustrate my point go to YouTube – Smarter Every Day. f mysteriouswritings.com/featured-question-and-weekly-words-from-forrest-fenn-get-back-in-the-box/
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