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Key 2
May 6, 2020 14:13:06 GMT -5
Post by elysethecat on May 6, 2020 14:13:06 GMT -5
Before this month's hint, I was searching all over the town. From the cipher alone I located the town and the ace - but I initially believed the tragedy to be the shipwreck and that a cross appended referred to the famous bridge - as an added/manufactured crossing/span of the river. I even looked into the fairgrounds as a reference to the "competition." The red line area is quite limiting and should be helpful, but I'm more stumped than I was before. I just feel like, besides the obvious (ace), no other part of the cipher seems to point to anything specific within the highlighted area. I can't seem to come up with any good data to manipulate. I've sure learned a lot about the town, though!
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Post by efanton on May 6, 2020 16:37:59 GMT -5
Before this month's hint, I was searching all over the town. From the cipher alone I located the town and the ace - but I initially believed the tragedy to be the shipwreck and that a cross appended referred to the famous bridge - as an added/manufactured crossing/span of the river. I even looked into the fairgrounds as a reference to the "competition." The red line area is quite limiting and should be helpful, but I'm more stumped than I was before. I just feel like, besides the obvious (ace), no other part of the cipher seems to point to anything specific within the highlighted area. I can't seem to come up with any good data to manipulate. I've sure learned a lot about the town, though! I know exactly how you feel. Probably spent so many hours looking at street view that I can visualise much of it with the aid google maps anymore. The problem was always going to be with the monthly question do we narrow down what information can be used to create the 2nd key or do we get an understanding of the format of the 2nd key. I went with the former knowing that getting really useful information on the format could take multiple questions. I think we will end up wasting two or three monthly questions narrowing down the format. What I dont understands is that I cant even see vague instructions on manipulating numbers or words in the stanza. I cant see any clue telling us to look at a particular thing or in a particular direction. We know for definite that we have to manipulate something so to my mind that can only be three things. 1. numbers (do we add/subtract similar to the clue for the bowling alley. I see nothing in the stanza that even remotely indicates that) 2. words possibly an anagram but as far as I can see there's only two candidates, 'A watery tragedy' or 'Dans Ace Hardware'. Have worked a lot on both of them but so far nothing 3. image. Is there something such as a sign, picture, mural that viewed from a specific angle , rotated or manipulated in some way would give us a further clue. I keep going back to that man sat in the chair on the sign for the bookstore. (you need not rise up form your chair) Has anyone seen anything that might look like a hint or instruction in the stanza's or additional clues? To be honest at this stage I am more or less done with this hunt. Its all to random for my liking.
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Key 2
May 6, 2020 17:53:16 GMT -5
Post by fishmini on May 6, 2020 17:53:16 GMT -5
This is what's getting to me. No instructions on how to manipulate the found information as far as I can tell.
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Post by TheCoyWonder on May 6, 2020 19:18:00 GMT -5
I've always felt that "equal" is an instruction, but I've yet to make it payoff.
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Key 2
May 7, 2020 8:05:13 GMT -5
Post by susb8383 on May 7, 2020 8:05:13 GMT -5
I’ve thought “rise up from your chair” referred to the plastic chairs in front of the ace. And “hidden there” along with “equal” referred to the blue sign right next to them. You can see EQU but the rest of the letters are hidden. My theory doesn’t work that well because if you shift the view a little to the left you can see that the missing letters are IS. It’s a sign for Equis Financial, not the word Equal.
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Key 2
May 7, 2020 8:14:36 GMT -5
Post by susb8383 on May 7, 2020 8:14:36 GMT -5
It also bothers me a little that the shipwreck isn’t really much of a tragedy. The ship just became a wreck from neglect, as far as I can tell. I don’t think any lives were lost.
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Key 2
May 7, 2020 13:01:54 GMT -5
Post by saraolive on May 7, 2020 13:01:54 GMT -5
I think the whole cipher was just to lead to the ace hardware. Once you found the town, "a cross" would help narrow down the area to the crossroads of Strahan and Shore Pine, which is shaped like a cross. I think stanza 8 has to be the instructions for decoding, but I'm not sure of more than that. Given that both keys are supposed to have feedback mechanisms and that there are no special characters, could "each of you is equal" mean that it's another phone number?
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Post by captnkush on May 7, 2020 16:52:34 GMT -5
Everbodys got a mask these days. I say we go up in that hardware store and get some answers....lol...put the key in the bag and nobody gets hurt....obviously kidding but dam if frustration doesn't get the best of me sometimes.
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Key 2
May 7, 2020 19:34:53 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by goldenchild on May 7, 2020 19:34:53 GMT -5
I’ve thought “rise up from your chair” referred to the plastic chairs in front of the ace. And “hidden there” along with “equal” referred to the blue sign right next to them. You can see EQU but the rest of the letters are hidden. My theory doesn’t work that well because if you shift the view a little to the left you can see that the missing letters are IS. It’s a sign for Equis Financial, not the word Equal. Equis happens to mean X also. How coincidental is that.
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Key 2
May 7, 2020 21:53:25 GMT -5
Post by susb8383 on May 7, 2020 21:53:25 GMT -5
I’ve thought “rise up from your chair” referred to the plastic chairs in front of the ace. And “hidden there” along with “equal” referred to the blue sign right next to them. You can see EQU but the rest of the letters are hidden. My theory doesn’t work that well because if you shift the view a little to the left you can see that the missing letters are IS. It’s a sign for Equis Financial, not the word Equal. Equis happens to mean X also. How coincidental is that. That is VERY interesting!!
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Key 2
May 10, 2020 20:03:48 GMT -5
Post by fishmini on May 10, 2020 20:03:48 GMT -5
Since there's a general idea that the 2 keys are a username and password... most passwords require both numbers and letters. So I'm going down that hole now but can't find many things that have both numbers and letters other than the addresses. I have a few ideas on how to manipulate the info but it would still require appending numbers to the result to get a proper password. Any ideas?
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Key 2
May 10, 2020 20:41:14 GMT -5
Post by efanton on May 10, 2020 20:41:14 GMT -5
Since there's a general idea that the 2 keys are a username and password... most passwords require both numbers and letters. So I'm going down that hole now but can't find many things that have both numbers and letters other than the addresses. I have a few ideas on how to manipulate the info but it would still require appending numbers to the result to get a proper password. Any ideas? Well Lukas has clearly pointed out that we need to manipulate what we find to create the second key. Lots of words on the hardware shop window, the flower shop across the road, advertising signs (including the man sat in his chair for the bookstore) along with lots of numbers (prices in hardware shop, fuel prices on the petrol station sign etc). I'm guessing that we have to combine two or more of them to create the second key. The problem here is that the number of possible combinations is way beyond what any sensible person would try randomly enter into the key checker. There simply has to be be some hint or clue in the wording he has used in either the original stanzas or the additional verses that we have got from deciphering the additional clues. I think concentration on the wording of the verses and trying to tease out hidden meanings is likely to be more productive than randomly trying out combinations. I keep going back to the sign on the side of the book store (you need not rise up from your chair) , and the dog that appears in some of the view that google maps show (a dog eared page will save the day). I am also convinced 'A Watery Tragedy' has more relevance that simply referring to the massive flood that killed many people on the Rogue River. I have anagramed that phrase to death at this point with nothing useful coming of it. Unfortunately I have lost faith in this hunt. In any hunt you expect that everything you need to know is there in front of you, you just have to interpret it from the right perspective. Sadly many of the clues to get us this far that have been used are at best what you could call 'random' and at worst not appearing to be relevant or misleading with out an additional bit of information or clue being provided by Lukas. What I mean by that is the 2nd key could simply be a word seen in one of the windows or on one of the signs followed by the date of the flood, Yes both bits of information might have been indicated by the clues, but there is absolutely no instruction or hint that you combine two specific bits of information together. In my opinion this hunt is going to be won by someone randomly guessing the correct solution, or so many clues being released by Lukas that it becomes more and more obvious as to what the answer might be. I doubt it's going to be 'solved' in the true sense of the word with regards a treasure hut.
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Key 2
May 11, 2020 9:20:28 GMT -5
Post by treasurer on May 11, 2020 9:20:28 GMT -5
Is this a fair question to the (at least) 2 people who have claimed to have found the chest... Do you see a basic username/password format? Or Is there something else you can share that would guide us in what we are looking for?
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Post by susb8383 on May 12, 2020 7:28:22 GMT -5
It will be some sort of combo of letters and numbers. IMO. No way to know 100% for sure without solving it, but that appears to be the case.
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Key 2
May 12, 2020 8:40:52 GMT -5
Post by susb8383 on May 12, 2020 8:40:52 GMT -5
The number 10 is so prominent throughout the poem: 10 stanzas, X marks the spot, a turkey in bowling (x3), 10 digits in the first key. Do you think that’s an indication that Key 2 has 10 characters?
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