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Post by Jenny on Feb 24, 2020 12:41:47 GMT -5
Many feel the first stanza offers a hint to 'where warm waters halt'.....
I offer a way it might hint to Yellowstone, but I'm sure there are other possibilities. What do think?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2020 12:53:03 GMT -5
It makes sense that he is hinting to us in the first stanza where. Yellowstone is a good answer.
Thanks for the video Jenny
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Post by flyjack on Feb 24, 2020 13:20:18 GMT -5
The first stanza has to have a hint for WWH,, there are just far too many possibilities for WWH in the Poem's geographic boundaries
I believe it is Yellowstone..
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Post by zaphod73491 on Feb 24, 2020 14:19:48 GMT -5
Hi Jenny: you are preaching to the choir. ;-) But I think the first stanza is even more specific than that. Remember, Forrest said (or at least told a searcher once upon a time) that WWWH isn't a broad area, but a specific place. Here's what Dal posted about it 6+ years ago: From Nine Clues part 25, posted by Dal on 12/29/2013 at 12:41am: "$bill-I agree.. Forrest once told a searcher who suggested that the entire YNP could be the place where warm waters halt that he was wrong… That it was a specific place and not a region… Which suggests to me that it could not be something like the continental divide or the western front of a range of mountains… as has been suggested in other posts on this blog.." Link: dalneitzel.com/2013/12/28/the-nine-clues-2/#comment-29511 |
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Post by Jenny on Feb 24, 2020 16:35:48 GMT -5
Thanks Zap....yes, I remember that comment (I'll mark the link for it down now, since I hadn't before)........and agree WWWH is a specific place (from the many). But in order to find or narrow down the search for that specific place, guidance might be given in the first stanza (or elsewhere). We hope anyway...lol....
How much guidance is needed/given?
The example in the video was the first stanza hints to Yellowstone....so a searcher would need only to search that 'area' for the correct WWWH and the other clues.
Others think it might be the word 'New' and hint to NEW mexico.....
It seems whatever is 'found' is an interpretation and not like breaking a code which is something unmistakable. We only have ideas...
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Post by zaphod73491 on Feb 24, 2020 19:38:24 GMT -5
Hi Jenny: I think you need a pinpoint (at least on a map) starting location, and I believe the first stanza plus the line "Begin it where warm waters halt" tells you precisely where that point is.
There are still lots of (i.e. too many) popular choices for WWWH in YNP (e.g. Madison Junction, Boiling River, Ojo Caliente, Icebox Canyon, Old Faithful, to name a few). The poem has to unambiguously identify the correct one out of the hundreds of possibilities in order for a searcher to proceed with confidence.
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Post by Travis Brown on Feb 24, 2020 20:06:41 GMT -5
The Poem gives you what to look for While correlating Clues/Hints from the memoir.
I believe TTOTC holds all the hints all the clues everything a searcher needs to match every location and direction. Where and when to go and stop.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2020 22:14:47 GMT -5
IMO, it is a specific place, but as a whole it is not. It takes knowing the specific place, to finish knowing all of warm waters halt. In other words, warm waters halt is a combination of things that the specific place consist of and it takes looking at the big picture to complete.
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Post by edgewalker on Feb 24, 2020 22:30:55 GMT -5
I think we need to figure out what story Forrest is telling. Solving the first clue imo is not possible until we figure that out. I think this is about more than the treasure, it is about revealing secrets.
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Post by thrillchaser on Feb 25, 2020 9:13:23 GMT -5
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Post by Jenny on Feb 26, 2020 15:51:03 GMT -5
For reference I add this.... from another thread: But it was pointed out that while the arrow points to possibly WY, in reverse, and to the side window, could be YNP (yellowstone national park). Intentional? Coincidental? I'm not sure we can know.  |
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Post by Bassackwards on Feb 28, 2020 1:51:53 GMT -5
Golden cliff/Brown Cloud... CO
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Post by goldilocks on Mar 19, 2020 1:57:47 GMT -5
I do some of my best thinking in the middle of the night. Almost 3am here and I'm laying in bed thinking about how taxes are due April 15th. IRS - iris - eye - 9 capital I's in the poem, I is the 9th letter, Ojo, and then it occurred to me - in The Codex by Doug Preston, the 3 sons were summoned by letter to meet at their father's home to learn of the "come find me and the treasure" plan. The day of this meeting was April 15th. Maybe Ojo Caliente is a reasonable starting point after all...but what's the connection with April 15th is the question.
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Post by thrillchaser on Mar 19, 2020 19:18:10 GMT -5
ojo caliente is a wwwh. I don't think it is the one.
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Post by Jenny on Mar 20, 2020 6:13:53 GMT -5
Many searchers feel stanza 1 offers a hint to WWWH. However, it seems it would be 'interpretational'. Forrest has said there aren't any codes and ciphers and such, so it doesn't sound like there is something, without the use of interpretation, to give, a state or park or specific area.
Sure there are many searchers who have 'something', but there isn't any solid confirmation given from the poem (or book) they are correct. Just like the example I use, 'the first stanza hints to Yellowstone', and while I have lots of other 'hints' supporting such an idea..... it still doesn't make it without doubt.
Each person's interpretations are influenced by their own thoughts/ideas. Without a type of confirmation, it seems this is why those who solved or were at the first two clues didn't know it or moved further.....
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