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Post by Bownarrow on May 4, 2020 13:19:41 GMT -5
Synonyms for mess
chance-medley, chaos, confusion, disarrangement, disarray, dishevelment, disorder,
"Don't(do not) mess with my poem" -> disorder my(or my disorder) poem, id(entify) hot(warm) town
hot(warm) town = town where warm waters halt = Blanefield
Looking at the big picture, ff refers to multiple personalities throughout his writings.
Multiple personalities + disorder = multiple personality disorder.
So my disorder = multiple personality disorder
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Post by astree on May 4, 2020 16:50:56 GMT -5
. But, Can we assign the words “I didn’t write that poem” to Forrest? Did Forrest say or write the phrase "I didn't write... the poem"? Or, is there an instance of putting that in writing? |
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Post by brianu on May 4, 2020 18:26:40 GMT -5
Seems like there's names in the poem. Just noticed that it seems to line up words.
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Post by Bownarrow on May 5, 2020 2:03:22 GMT -5
Seems like there's names in the poem. Just noticed that it seems to line up words. Hi brianu,
I agree. There are names to be found in the poem. One of them I believe is the name of the architect .
This name of the architect is hinted at in a number of different ways elsewhere. When the name is found it explains a whole lot of the otherwise baffling things said by ff. Among other things, it gives powerful support for the idea that the chest is hidden in the garden at The Castle Of L.ove.
It is interesting to know that ff has used two different screen-names/identities/personalites to post under on Dal's site. This may be argued as pointing to his use of I/me as referring to two different individuals.
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Post by Bownarrow on May 5, 2020 2:17:45 GMT -5
Seems like there's names in the poem. Just noticed that it seems to line up words. Hi brianu,
I agree. There are names to be found in the poem. One of them I believe is the name of the architect .
This name of the architect is hinted at in a number of different ways elsewhere. When the name is found it explains a whole lot of the otherwise baffling things said by ff. Among other things, it gives powerful support for the idea that the chest is hidden in the garden at The Castle Of L.ove.
It is interesting to know that ff has used two different screen-names/identities/personalites to post under on Dal's site. This may be argued as pointing to his use of I/me as referring to two different individuals.
Elmyr de Hory also links to the subject of multiple personalities as Elmyr is said to have had numerous different pseudonyms. |
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Post by Bownarrow on May 5, 2020 2:28:37 GMT -5
. But, Can we assign the words “I didn’t write that poem” to Forrest? Did Forrest say or write the phrase "I didn't write... the poem"? Or, is there an instance of putting that in writing? astree,
dalneitzel.com/2014/11/08/architecture-of-the-poem/
Goofy_Old_Guy on November 8, 2014 at 3:42 pm said:
Interesting subject; I suppose we should start with Fenn’s statement about the poem being written by an architect:
Well, you know…let me put this in perspective. So many people have decided they’re going to take a picnic lunch out on Sunday and look for the treasure…or something to do over spring break. I’m lookin’ at a hundred years down the road…a thousand years, maybe ten thousand years down the road. It took me 15 years to write the poem. I’ve changed it so many times and I’ve said before that I didn’t write that poem…it was written by an architect…each word is deliberate.
In the above quote ff refers to "that poem" rather than "the poem".
I do not think that the above quote is the one that I remember seeing on dal's site. The statement itself refers to him having said the same/similar thing before. I cannot recall him using the word "that" in the statement that I remember. I think he used the word "the".
It would still be really heplful if anyone could track down his earlier statement.
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Post by Bownarrow on May 5, 2020 4:29:18 GMT -5
Forrest Fire on August 26, 2014 at 3:50 pm said:
I think Mr. Fenn is a great guy. He pets dogs, thinks about going to church, grows pretty daffodils, doesn’t sing when others are in earshot, likes Willie Nelson, slows for stop signs, and plans to help with the dishes sometime. What more can you expect from a small Texas town guy?
Woody Bogg on August 26, 2014 at 5:06 pm said:
Forrest fire You crack me up . You talk like the Forrest in you is separate from the Mr Fenn. You don’t have a split personality do you ? I always thought that both were one in the same.
Forrest Fire on September 2, 2014 at 4:29 pm said:
I became interested in writing when I learned I could forge my father’s signiture on my arithmetic report card so he wouldn’t know what my grade was. That curtain came down one day when I misspeled his name. I wasn’t very good at spelling either.f
The subject of split(multiple) personalities came up in this exchange with Forrest Fire on Dal's site. Seems that ff is not averse to pretending to be someone other than himself.
I always wondered whether Woody Bogg was another alias of ff's - for obvious reasons. If so this exchange would mean that ff is deliberatley drawing attention to the idea of a split personality. Even without Woody Bogg being one and the same as ff, it does seem that ff/Forrest Fire is still drawing attention to the idea of a split personality/multiple personalities.
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Post by astree on May 5, 2020 5:03:53 GMT -5
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Thank you bownarrow for both of your posts. I am still trying to determine if what we are reading about what forrest said was what he wrote, or what someone else wrote in remembering what forrest wrote or translating or recording what he said because in both instances something can be lost or be in error.
That is very interesting about the forest fire split personality post, or possibly forest is just having fun. Somewhere, Forrest address the question of hosting under multiple aliases and I believe he said he only posted under two and never under any other alias.
I recall there was a post by forest fire or forrest fenn in mysteriouswritings.com where the poster wrote to the effect of “do you guys think I’m crazy and would actually hide a treasure”. That was several years ago and I remember going back to make a recording of it and it was gone. I was also trying to see if there was us any possibility that the posters alias was a close facsimile of Forrest Fenn or Forest Fire like using a zero instead of the letter O but again I couldn’t find the post so I couldn’t test it out
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Post by goldilocks on May 5, 2020 6:54:17 GMT -5
Synonyms for mess
chance-medley, chaos, confusion, disarrangement, disarray, dishevelment, disorder,
"Don't(do not) mess with my poem" -> disorder my(or my disorder) poem, id(entify) hot(warm) town
hot(warm) town = town where warm waters halt = Blanefield
Looking at the big picture, ff refers to multiple personalities throughout his writings.
Multiple personalities + disorder = multiple personality disorder.
So my disorder = multiple personality disorder
Hi Bownarrow, just to clarify for anyone reading this, you don't actually think Forrest has multiple personality disorder, you are just suggesting he writes/uses different aliases correct? |
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Post by voxpops on May 5, 2020 7:20:04 GMT -5
To a greater or lesser degree I think we all have a divided personality. The very fact that FF decided to use two handles for blog posting points toward this as potentially important. I believe it's fundamental to the chase. How many times has the concept of twins, double letters, repeated words, mirrors etc. come up?
This idea also makes it easier to interpret who wrote the poem, and who, by extension, hid the treasure. It wasn't Forrest. At least, it wasn't the ego who goes by the name of Forrest Fenn. By the same token, it won't be an ego that discovers it.
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Post by goldilocks on May 5, 2020 7:23:53 GMT -5
I think the most logical explanation is that Forrest hired a ghostwriter.
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Post by voxpops on May 5, 2020 7:26:26 GMT -5
I think the most logical explanation is that Forrest hired a ghostwriter. In a way maybe you're right. But where do you suppose you could find a ghostwriter who could pen such an amazing piece of work and foil all attempts to unravel the true meaning over ten years? |
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Post by goldilocks on May 5, 2020 7:31:30 GMT -5
I think the most logical explanation is that Forrest hired a ghostwriter. In a way maybe you're right. But where do you suppose you could find a ghostwriter who could pen such an amazing piece of work and foil all attempts to unravel the true meaning over ten years? Doug Preston, in plain sight, with a non-disclosure agreement of course. |
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Post by ironwill on May 5, 2020 7:42:16 GMT -5
I think the most logical explanation is that Forrest hired a ghostwriter. OOOOOOOOoooooooorrrrrrr..... Forrest is an Architect .... of sorts. Architects design properties and homes....right?  |
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Post by goldilocks on May 5, 2020 7:58:52 GMT -5
I think the most logical explanation is that Forrest hired a ghostwriter. OOOOOOOOoooooooorrrrrrr..... Forrest is an Architect .... of sorts. Architects design properties and homes....right? I don't know about that but he did design and construct the poem. |
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