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Post by sangre on Jul 23, 2020 9:26:16 GMT -5
“we” are calling the shots now. Interesting. why don’t you just let the ‘finder’ speak for himself? If this is really how the f’finder’ wants to reveal the state, I’m not buying it. what a joke! This is just so ridiculous and I’m sorry that I ever got involved with this nonsense! The fotos are a joke. first f says it’s all up to the finder, and that he is being forced into silence. now this? “we” just aren’t buying it. the ‘finder’ needs to have the decency to place his own words together in a meaningful sentence. Sorry.
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Post by goldilocks on Jul 23, 2020 9:43:29 GMT -5
“we” are calling the shots now. Interesting. why don’t you just let the ‘finder’ speak for himself? If this is really how the f’finder’ wants to reveal the state, I’m not buying it. what a joke! This is just so ridiculous and I’m sorry that I ever got involved with this nonsense! The fotos are a joke. first f says it’s all up to the finder, and that he is being forced into silence. now this? “we” just aren’t buying it. the ‘finder’ needs to have the decency to place his own words together in a meaningful sentence. Sorry. I understand your skepticism because things ended on a sketchy note but at some point you have to accept that it is what it is, like it or lump it as they say. Who's to say the Finder and Forrest weren't influenced by our pleas to say something, anything. I appreciate this piece of news. I knew they wouldn't let us down. Whether it was Forrest convincing Finder or Finder coming to this on his own, I am grateful. Finder may never talk and that's ok. Forrest did and that's what matters. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 10:11:39 GMT -5
I knew it was in WY, but NOT in Yellowstone I know on an old video you said you thought it was in Fremont County. I don't know if you changed. My solve led me to Fremont County. I was always curious if you had anything to lead you to that conclusion other than John Charles Whatever and his olive jar.
That was OLD, before I started over in 2017... The chest was in the Bighorns and IMO the solve is the one Sam and I put out there in 2016/2017... Try the wheel... www.youtube.com/watch?v=UClOz8PO9uc |
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Post by crm114 on Jul 23, 2020 10:48:35 GMT -5
I know on an old video you said you thought it was in Fremont County. I don't know if you changed. My solve led me to Fremont County. I was always curious if you had anything to lead you to that conclusion other than John Charles Whatever and his olive jar.
That was OLD, before I started over in 2017... The chest was in the Bighorns and IMO the solve is the one Sam and I put out there in 2016/2017... Try the wheel... www.youtube.com/watch?v=UClOz8PO9ucI'll check that out, thanks. Did you have something about Fremont that you found, though? |
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Post by edgewalker on Jul 23, 2020 12:10:43 GMT -5
I spent some time researching Death Valley Wyoming because of the grave of Forrest father, row 4 block 23. Psalm 23 vs 4 Yea though I walk through the shadow of the Valley of Death. Near Meek and Static peaks.
Found this reference as in Teton as well that is interesting.
Jimmy Manges, whose old ranch became the first Elbo Ranch, had built a cabin on his remaining land near the Double Diamond in 1926. He gradually created a guest camp on the property, calling it the X Quarter Circle X. The camp expanded to twenty cabins by the 1940s, when his nephew Irwin Lesher and Irwin's wife Marvel took over management and improved the camp's standard of hygiene. The Leshers continued to manage the camp after Jimmy's death in 1960 until Lesher sold out to the Park Service in 1980.[39]
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Post by heidini on Jul 23, 2020 12:17:21 GMT -5
I know on an old video you said you thought it was in Fremont County. I don't know if you changed. My solve led me to Fremont County. I was always curious if you had anything to lead you to that conclusion other than John Charles Whatever and his olive jar.
That was OLD, before I started over in 2017... The chest was in the Bighorns and IMO the solve is the one Sam and I put out there in 2016/2017... Try the wheel... www.youtube.com/watch?v=UClOz8PO9ucI was just at the wheel. I didn’t feel it was the spot at all. It did feel nice there though. A bit of heaven. I felt reverent but not “fenny.” |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 13:52:18 GMT -5
That was OLD, before I started over in 2017... The chest was in the Bighorns and IMO the solve is the one Sam and I put out there in 2016/2017... Try the wheel... www.youtube.com/watch?v=UClOz8PO9ucI'll check that out, thanks. Did you have something about Fremont that you found, though?
Yeah I made videos about some of it.
Check out the comment made by me in that video right above (I linked), I have a story...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 13:53:03 GMT -5
That was OLD, before I started over in 2017... The chest was in the Bighorns and IMO the solve is the one Sam and I put out there in 2016/2017... Try the wheel... www.youtube.com/watch?v=UClOz8PO9ucI was just at the wheel. I didn’t feel it was the spot at all. It did feel nice there though. A bit of heaven. I felt reverent but not “fenny.”
It wasn't at the wheel, go look at 5 springs and tell me that isn't "fenny".
One thing for sure, nothing in NM was fenny.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 13:59:56 GMT -5
BTW
Fenn spent a lifetime collecting what? Indian stuff
It isn't surprising IF he resorted to what an indian would do when he got cancer?
And what about the fact that the things he described in Vietnam translate into the Bighorn Mountains?
I think it was a spiritual thing, call it a pilgrimage... Why was he always talking in Circles?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 20:36:21 GMT -5
That was OLD, before I started over in 2017... The chest was in the Bighorns and IMO the solve is the one Sam and I put out there in 2016/2017... Try the wheel... www.youtube.com/watch?v=UClOz8PO9ucI was just at the wheel. I didn’t feel it was the spot at all. It did feel nice there though. A bit of heaven. I felt reverent but not “fenny.”
It is a LUSH forest. It is beneath a canopy of stars (the wheel right above it is where the natives watched the stars in the constellations of: Taurus, Orion and his two dogs, the southern fish and aqaurius who is standing above the 5 springs basin dumping his urn of water into it, down the creek, and over these falls. Sheep Eater Indians stayed at that elevation during the winters... BEAUTIFUL place, rarely visited.
That place is amazing and hidden in a very tight, one way in, canyon.
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Post by indulgenceseeker on Jul 24, 2020 17:41:22 GMT -5
The only verifiables we have are the official statements and the posted pics. If we cancel out all the noise associated with the interpretations of the poem and just stick with what we know, consider the following conjecture.
If you accept that the picture taken shortly after discovery is near where the treasure had lain, that the pinecones in the picture are pinyon pine cones in varying stages of decay, that the dried piece of wood in the upper right corner is desiccated eastern Cottonwood, that the sedge grass is a wetland area grass, and that it was discovered in WY lying amidst lush, forested vegetation, the only areas of overlap are in southern WY at the northern terminuses of the Medicine Bow and Sierra Madre ranges.
If we also assume just one unverifiable - that WWWH is along the Continental Divide - that eliminates the Medicine Bow Range and leaves the Sierra Madre Range.
Just west of Encampment, WY up into the mountains of the Sierra Madre below the Divide lies the confluence of the Green mountain and Red mountain drainages: Green mixed with Red = Brown.
Could the HOB be the confluence of the two creeks?? The rest you know...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 22:06:47 GMT -5
I see no real point in discussing where the picture was taken because he clearly said it was taken "not long after it was discovered" meaning it was not at the exact spot. Why would we call discussing the poem "noise" and discussing a picture that has nothing to do with the solution "verifiable". Even if you knew when and exactly where it was taken, that has nothing to do with how it was found and solved  |
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Post by riddlerja on Jul 25, 2020 0:32:01 GMT -5
Sorry, but I must intervene. People are doing what is all too common - - putting their own ideas onto things Forrest said. "Not long after it was discovered" means that, no more, no less. It does NOT mean "after the chest had been moved." It does not mean "after the chest was discovered but before it was moved." Both are possibilities of that phrasing. Forrest makes no statement regarding how long "not long" is nor what happened or didn't happen to the chest during that time. It could be "not long" as in the finder had opened it, removed some items, which seems to have been the case based on Forrest's statement of what was originally in the chest, and then took a photo showing a portion of the chest and some contents that had not yet been removed. The finder may, or may not, have moved it from its original location in that time. If it was moved, it may have simply been turned for purposes of the photo, rather than moved to a totally new location. We don't know. If at some future date another person is able to find a location that appears to exactly fit the photo, we might at least believe that the photo was taken there, but unless that location can be determined to fit Forrest's poem and all subsequent clues with an extremely high degree of precision, we cannot know if it that was in fact the chest's location when found. Even then, some doubt would remain without confirmation by either Forrest or the finder.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 10:04:45 GMT -5
Sorry, but I must intervene. People are doing what is all too common - - putting their own ideas onto things Forrest said. "Not long after it was discovered" means that, no more, no less. It does NOT mean "after the chest had been moved." It does not mean "after the chest was discovered but before it was moved." Both are possibilities of that phrasing. Forrest makes no statement regarding how long "not long" is nor what happened or didn't happen to the chest during that time. It could be "not long" as in the finder had opened it, removed some items, which seems to have been the case based on Forrest's statement of what was originally in the chest, and then took a photo showing a portion of the chest and some contents that had not yet been removed. The finder may, or may not, have moved it from its original location in that time. If it was moved, it may have simply been turned for purposes of the photo, rather than moved to a totally new location. We don't know. If at some future date another person is able to find a location that appears to exactly fit the photo, we might at least believe that the photo was taken there, but unless that location can be determined to fit Forrest's poem and all subsequent clues with an extremely high degree of precision, we cannot know if it that was in fact the chest's location when found. Even then, some doubt would remain without confirmation by either Forrest or the finder.
You missed the biggest thing... Trying to examine the photo to determine where it was taken is a waste of time and total speculation as it could be a million different places in Wyoming.
The fact is the chest was in Wyoming, thats all that matters. That photo can fit into many more places than the person above indicated, it is not limited to south Wyoming, where do people get this stuff?
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Post by crm114 on Jul 25, 2020 10:19:56 GMT -5
Sorry, but I must intervene. People are doing what is all too common - - putting their own ideas onto things Forrest said. "Not long after it was discovered" means that, no more, no less. It does NOT mean "after the chest had been moved." It does not mean "after the chest was discovered but before it was moved." Both are possibilities of that phrasing. Forrest makes no statement regarding how long "not long" is nor what happened or didn't happen to the chest during that time. It could be "not long" as in the finder had opened it, removed some items, which seems to have been the case based on Forrest's statement of what was originally in the chest, and then took a photo showing a portion of the chest and some contents that had not yet been removed. The finder may, or may not, have moved it from its original location in that time. If it was moved, it may have simply been turned for purposes of the photo, rather than moved to a totally new location. We don't know. If at some future date another person is able to find a location that appears to exactly fit the photo, we might at least believe that the photo was taken there, but unless that location can be determined to fit Forrest's poem and all subsequent clues with an extremely high degree of precision, we cannot know if it that was in fact the chest's location when found. Even then, some doubt would remain without confirmation by either Forrest or the finder.
You missed the biggest thing... Trying to examine the photo to determine where it was taken is a waste of time and total speculation as it could be a million different places in Wyoming.
The fact is the chest was in Wyoming, thats all that matters. That photo can fit into many more places than the person above indicated, it is not limited to south Wyoming, where do people get this stuff?
The OP claimed the cones on the pic are pinyon. Others have said lodge pole. Pinyon ranges to northern Colorado at least. I'm not aware that it ranges into Southern WY. |
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