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Post by supremeseek on Dec 30, 2020 14:13:08 GMT -5
from NS : "you will need an accompanying text. This is a Beale cipher. Self contained in that everything you need to identify the correct source material is on this piece of CG paper. " Seems therefore the background music is NOT the key to gaining the text? I am looking at the symbols on the image in the 6s and 9s ... anyone else working on this?
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Post by susb8383 on Dec 31, 2020 5:23:27 GMT -5
from NS : "...everything you need to identify the correct source material is on this piece of CG paper. " That would also imply that her name, anagrammed or otherwise, isn’t needed to identify the text.
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Post by rhoddir2hedfan on Dec 31, 2020 12:33:14 GMT -5
from NS : "...everything you need to identify the correct source material is on this piece of CG paper. " That would also imply that her name, anagrammed or otherwise, isn’t needed to identify the text. That doesn't mean it can't be a clue though
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Post by beldredge on Apr 15, 2021 2:02:12 GMT -5
After watching today's MW video posted by Jenny, I familiarized myself with this hunt by watching "The Cipher" video on YouTube and reading the posts on this channel. Shazam'ing the music from the cipher video returns a song titled "Inner Peace Affirmations" by Jaz of Earth, which was posted to YouTube ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5YF1LBmJb0 ). It's interesting that the music in these two videos is identical and I really liked the linkage between "PIECE / PEACE" and "WORLD/EARTH". My attempts to use the 'spoken affirmations' (from the first 42 seconds of the Jaz of Earth version since that the length of the song in 'The Cipher' video) as the text for a beale cipher extraction resulted in nothing meaningful so far...but this doesn't surprise me since the Jaz of Earth video was published in Oct 2020, which is 3 months after 'The Cipher' hunt was published. I also don't see any connection to opals. Also searched the Jaz of Earth's website (listed in the description below the video), which yielded nothing meaningful. Separately, an internet search for 'Piece of new world' AND 'opal' returned an interesting book, available on Amazon, titled "The Opal Dragon: Tales of a New World" by Kim Kerr published March 11, 2017 ( www.amazon.com/Opal-Dragon-Tales-New-world/dp/152080976X ). I like the connection between OPAL and NEW WORLD. The book is 416 pages in length and has 19 chapters, each of which are titled. I've tried indexing into: a. 1st 65 words of first chapter b. Chapter headings (there are 46 words in the 19 chapter headings...which is short of 65) c. 1st letter of each page 1 thru 65 (in light of the imagery associated with numbers 6, 9, & 64, the following page numbers contain interesting text: p9 contains the word 'skull', p64 contains the words "billabong, waterholes left when a river changed its course) So far, no meaningful results. This text may be a coincidence, but it contains lots of references to 'new world', 'pieces', and 'opals'. Someone else may wish to take a look to see what I may be overlooking.
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Post by jethro99 on May 1, 2021 23:34:58 GMT -5
I reversed the music but not sure how to share it here
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Post by nofearengineer on May 7, 2021 9:20:11 GMT -5
The different text height intrigued me. I counted the numbers in each line: 22,16,16,19. Nothing extraordinary about those numbers other than they are all different by 3 (which could be related to the 6,6,6,9 in the "special" numbers...probably not). But what it does point to is that there are hard word/line breaks at those places.
Also, while I found the book "The Opal Dragon: A Tale of New Worlds" to be an excellent fit, I researched the author (Kim Kerr) a bit and found just more questions. He lives in Australia. Opals would seem to be a likely connection, but one can only wonder why an Aussie would make a BOTG a puzzle based in the Southern U.S. If anyone can find any connection between Kerr and the U.S. South...
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Post by starthinker on May 10, 2021 8:32:13 GMT -5
I've Shazammed the music at least 20 times, I get a different result every single time. I think it's just generic mood music.
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Post by ambam on May 30, 2021 20:52:19 GMT -5
I noticed the title of this thread is “Like a Beale Cipher”. Anyone know if the creator has ever said it is “like” a Beale cipher or only that it IS a Beale cipher? Trying to figure out if this will indeed be a simple Beale cipher once the text is discovered or if i will need to try lots of different things that are “like” a Beale cipher once the text is known. My fear is I will eventually find the text but miss the cipher because I am only trying a plain Beale cipher instead of different ways to do book ciphers.
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Post by susb8383 on Jun 1, 2021 5:59:13 GMT -5
After watching today's MW video posted by Jenny, I familiarized myself with this hunt by watching "The Cipher" video on YouTube and reading the posts on this channel. Shazam'ing the music from the cipher video returns a song titled "Inner Peace Affirmations" by Jaz of Earth, which was posted to YouTube ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5YF1LBmJb0 ). This is an incredible find! So far nobody has been able to correctly identify this music and not for lack of trying. I was convinced there was a clue hidden in the music. But since it has popped up elsewhere I no longer think it was created for this hunt. Which would coincide with Niamo's comment that everything we need to identify the text can be found on the piece of digital paper.
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Post by susb8383 on Jun 1, 2021 6:05:48 GMT -5
Possible texts to use: - Niamo What did you mean by niamo being possible text? I can't find anything text-related linked to this word.
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Post by susb8383 on Jun 1, 2021 6:12:43 GMT -5
Also, while I found the book "The Opal Dragon: A Tale of New Worlds" to be an excellent fit, I researched the author (Kim Kerr) a bit and found just more questions. He lives in Australia. Opals would seem to be a likely connection, but one can only wonder why an Aussie would make a BOTG a puzzle based in the Southern U.S. If anyone can find any connection between Kerr and the U.S. South... If this is the correct text it doesn't necessarily mean the author has anything to do with the hunt. The hunt creator may just have chosen this book based on the title.
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Post by susb8383 on Jun 1, 2021 11:58:40 GMT -5
I noticed the title of this thread is “Like a Beale Cipher”. Anyone know if the creator has ever said it is “like” a Beale cipher or only that it IS a Beale cipher? Trying to figure out if this will indeed be a simple Beale cipher once the text is discovered or if i will need to try lots of different things that are “like” a Beale cipher once the text is known. My fear is I will eventually find the text but miss the cipher because I am only trying a plain Beale cipher instead of different ways to do book ciphers. The creator originally spelled Beale wrong which makes me think this is more of a book cipher. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe a true Beale cipher is where you take the first letter of the nth word. Wouldn't that mean that every time you use a certain number it translates to the same letter? If that's the case I would think someone would have solved this already. But a book cipher has more flexibility. It could be the first letter on the nth page, the nth paragraph, etc. it could even be count n letters from the previous letter.
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Post by medandro on Jun 17, 2021 11:18:35 GMT -5
Wondering if we could get a confirmation if the correct source material is something we can all easily access either online or from a local library, or if it is something we would have to pay (oh I don't know, for example) $5.00 for?
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Post by susb8383 on Jun 18, 2021 5:35:22 GMT -5
Try posting that as a comment on youtube. That way Niamo will see it. Not sure if he/she checks these forum posts.
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Post by medandro on Jun 20, 2021 13:26:29 GMT -5
Thanks for the suggestion!! I just did, so now we await a response.
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