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Post by phrabbott on Dec 1, 2020 15:18:48 GMT -5
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Post by rambobrite on Dec 1, 2020 15:25:33 GMT -5
Wow, thanks!
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Post by poe67 on Dec 1, 2020 15:48:10 GMT -5
Well, I searched around Hunter's Cove and the adjacent trails before. Bummer to know I was so close to it. Though I always ignored the left side of the cove because I assumed that was National Park land.
Poe
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Post by thisjustin on Dec 1, 2020 15:53:38 GMT -5
So I suppose the master riddle was "Numbers open hidden treasure riddle"? I had the 3 and the 7 but I don't think I would have ever thought of those bars/lines as "1s". They aren't even the same number of blocks.
In any case, it was a lot of fun to work on Fandango, and I would look forward to Pel putting another hunt together!
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Post by phrabbott on Dec 1, 2020 16:00:45 GMT -5
Ya. Those 1's are questionable at best. The four different color 3's are why we didn't really focus on the yellow one. And one of our guys threw out the 7, but we were like "Ya man, there's lots of numbers in there." haha. Oh well. We can't say Pel didn't hammer home red=latitude and yellow=longitude...
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Post by ronemund on Dec 1, 2020 16:53:24 GMT -5
Ya. Those 1's are questionable at best. The four different color 3's are why we didn't really focus on the yellow one. And one of our guys threw out the 7, but we were like "Ya man, there's lots of numbers in there." haha. Oh well. We can't say Pel didn't hammer home red=latitude and yellow=longitude... Shouldn't there at least have been a block at the top of the bar, and two blocks at the bottom, like '1', so that you know, we might think it was a number and not just a colored bar? I'm not sure I even get this bit: The points on the stars on each page are colored differently. Drawing a line from points of the same color and seeing where they intersect and then putting the words in order (using the color of the numbers on page 40 so that blue is first, yellow is second, etc.)) roughly delivers the phrase NUMBERS OPEN HIDDEN TREASURE RIDDLE pointing to the use of numbers to solve the riddle. Somebody enlighten me. You connect all the star points of the same color on a page? Won't they intersect all over the place? You do this on every page? You're getting individual letters from this? On page 15 there is a red point at the top and at the bottom. If you connect them, you go through the entire group of words at the right border? Even the solution is a little confusing. It 'roughly delivers the phrase'? Shouldn't the master riddle exactly deliver the phrase?
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Post by thedawailey on Dec 1, 2020 17:15:09 GMT -5
Ya. Those 1's are questionable at best. The four different color 3's are why we didn't really focus on the yellow one. And one of our guys threw out the 7, but we were like "Ya man, there's lots of numbers in there." haha. Oh well. We can't say Pel didn't hammer home red=latitude and yellow=longitude... Shouldn't there at least have been a block at the top of the bar, and two blocks at the bottom, like '1', so that you know, we might think it was a number and not just a colored bar? I'm not sure I even get this bit: The points on the stars on each page are colored differently. Drawing a line from points of the same color and seeing where they intersect and then putting the words in order (using the color of the numbers on page 40 so that blue is first, yellow is second, etc.)) roughly delivers the phrase NUMBERS OPEN HIDDEN TREASURE RIDDLE pointing to the use of numbers to solve the riddle. Somebody enlighten me. You connect all the star points of the same color on a page? Won't they intersect all over the place? You do this on every page? You're getting individual letters from this? On page 15 there is a red point at the top and at the bottom. If you connect them, you go through the entire group of words at the right border? Even the solution is a little confusing. It 'roughly delivers the phrase'? Shouldn't the master riddle exactly deliver the phrase? This is referred to as the 'star code' and there has been a lot of discussion about it in this forum. I think Jenny posted illustrations with the star points and the letters each pair of matching colors points to. On page 5 there are orange star points in the upper and lower left corners. If you draw a straight line from each, they intersect at the H of HIS on the right border. This is the first letter of the word HIDDEN. Then on page 7, blue points in the upper and lower right corner point to the N of HAND for the first letter of NUMBERS, and the two yellow points in the upper and lower left corners point to the letter T in THE on the right border, the first letter of the word TREUSRE (Treasure). And so on throughout the book. And yes, 'roughly' - it actually spells out NUMBERS OPE HIDFEN TREUSRE RIDLDE.
With so many numbers in the book, it was hard to know which ones were relevant.
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Post by ronemund on Dec 1, 2020 17:32:34 GMT -5
Oh, right, thanks, I remember that now. Always thought it was odd that the master riddle wasn't actually spelled right.
With so many numbers in the book, it was hard to know which ones were relevant.
Especially when two of the numbers are just colored bars of different lengths.
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Post by artofhiddenmessages on Dec 1, 2020 17:33:10 GMT -5
With so many numbers in the book, it was hard to know which ones were relevant.
Not only that, how would one know that you were to fold the pages to get your numbers? There were no clues or hints to do that. And sorry, but that number ONE is hardly passable as a number ONE.
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Post by artofhiddenmessages on Dec 1, 2020 17:35:23 GMT -5
Refresh my memory....I thought this one WAS NOT supposed to be buried. Maybe I am remembering that incorrectly...Does anyone know for sure?
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Post by thisjustin on Dec 1, 2020 17:37:28 GMT -5
Refresh my memory....I thought this one WAS NOT supposed to be buried. Maybe I am remembering that incorrectly...Does anyone know for sure? Yes it was not buried. I assume Pel was simply noting that debris, leaves, etc. had accumulated on/over/around the rock as one would expect with something sitting on the forest floor.
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Post by astree on Dec 1, 2020 17:46:43 GMT -5
. The solution makes sense. It may have been buried by the red herrings? Hard to differentiate where combinations of red herrings would lead vs the correct solution.
I guess the C MASQUERADE IN HT hinted to using the stars as pointers and color order? We would need to know about Masquerade.
PAEC FORTY SOUTH ... I missed how that came in?
“the key is a public place”... if not a typo, how does it tie in?
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Post by theo on Dec 1, 2020 17:56:08 GMT -5
That's... disappointing.
If I'm reading this correctly, the whole thing came down to just some number-like blocks in the margins of a few pages. So all the rest of the book — the map and all the text and all the paintings (apart from two second-hands on clocks) — was just... filler???
Am I missing something here?
I vaguely remember Kit Williams saying in an interview that he wanted to reward the people who took the time to examine his paintings and study the details. Obviously it was my mistake to assume the same thing would apply to Fandango, but still... I'm kind of in shock that none of the art and none of the text had anything to do with the puzzle at all. Feels kind of like the artist and the writer are both flipping the bird at us and saying "ha-ha, suckers!"
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Post by ronemund on Dec 1, 2020 17:56:55 GMT -5
With so many numbers in the book, it was hard to know which ones were relevant.
Not only that, how would one know that you were to fold the pages to get your numbers? There were no clues or hints to do that. And sorry, but that number ONE is hardly passable as a number ONE. I guess making the compass rose on every page was the only fold hint? I guess maybe the folded map on p 30? Although with the insane amount of stuff in the book, just on page 11 alone, so many, many red herrings. All of the stuff on that page was just red herrings, the zodiac stuff, astronomy, the keyboard, the animals, Vitruvian man, the eye, wtf was the falling apple about? The ONES - I could maybe see if they were both the same size and in the same 'location' on the 'band', but they're not. The freaking 3, which is the most obvious, has the word THREE next to it. But then two different shaped lines we should have guessed were ones? I would have just thought there was nothing there. The three and the seven stick out like a sore thumb in contrast to all the different colors - green, purple, blue, around them, and then the ones are just red-yellow-orange.
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Post by pumalion on Dec 1, 2020 18:02:45 GMT -5
I had dismissed the longitude and latitude as clues because (I thought) knowing how to use them requires knowledge outside of the book.
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