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Post by Jenny on Oct 31, 2021 9:45:47 GMT -5
Something new is going on in the world of the Golden Owl. Seems to be controversial. I haven't made sense of it yet. Would anyone who understands care to explain? Thanks. What or where have you heard something?
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Post by goldhunter on Oct 31, 2021 9:58:20 GMT -5
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Post by Jenny on Oct 31, 2021 11:49:49 GMT -5
Thanks GoldHunter.... Yes, a bit confusing, and for not only those who do not speak French it seems....
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Post by adrienloridan on Oct 31, 2021 13:05:34 GMT -5
Michel Becker on October 30, 2021 at 9 p.m
" Are you interested in golden owl, so I have two words to say.
Good.
All treasure stories are full of mysteries, twists and turns, and the quest for the owl is obviously no exception. It is even the most incredible adventures there is.
One of the last important events is the creation in August 2020 of the editions of the golden owl, which I have the honor to chair. It may seem trivial, but it was the catalyst for a series of chain reactions. First of all, the authors, the heirs of Max Valentin and myself, decided to entrust editions of the golden owl with the mission of new organizer of the game and we have contracted in this direction to formalize the conduct of the game and each.
This is excellent news for the players since the regularity of the game is thus perpetuated. So, no more false rumors, malicious speculations and other expressions of spite from some bad players. Now it's time for the pleasure of playing.
As the first due diligence prior to taking office, your servant had to learn about the solutions of the game. Great emotion. Great emotion when discovering the level of elaboration of the puzzles and the ingenuity of the super solution.
We didn't always agree, him and me, but here I really say "max hat". The location of the cache is very precisely defined to the nearest centimeter and I now understand why some of my paintings may have surprised the talented author of the riddles.
It goes without saying that I will not change or modify anything in the work of Max Valentin. Finally, anxious to provide players with all the necessary guarantees, I went discreetly at night to check the contents of the cache. As nothing is trivial in the history of the owl and we do not doubt that some will not appreciate. Blanche Neige is (and) the usher who accompanied me.
It was a great moment for me and, I must say, an intense emotion. However, I was not at the end of my surprises by digging at the exact location defined to the nearest centimeter by the solutions, I actually found the countermark. This is indeed an extremely corroded ferrous metal bird covered with a thick layer of rust, but it is not the number one draw of the owl. Unfortunately max is no more and we will never know what happened.
Having said that the game continues and it's a great draw that needs to be discovered. Out of honesty and respect for the players, I therefore replaced the first countermark, the second print of the owl bearing the founder's mark and the number two out of eight strictly identical to the previous one. Rest assured, you are not looking in vain.
So while waiting for the day of its discovery, long live the golden owl. "
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Post by goldhunter on Oct 31, 2021 15:06:59 GMT -5
Thank you to adrienloridan
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Post by aloftcroft on Oct 31, 2021 15:13:18 GMT -5
Merci adrienloridan.
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Post by astree on Nov 1, 2021 6:27:09 GMT -5
Im not seeing it. Which post number in the forum? Or, is the announcement on the facebook page linked in the first post? Adrien, thank you for the translation, I just cant find the original. Is the first, rusty proxy owl available for viewing? edit: youtu.be/HTQmHqDt-hg
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Post by goldhunter on Nov 1, 2021 9:24:56 GMT -5
Bump (so my last post on another thread doesn't show up)
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Post by Jenny on Nov 1, 2021 11:36:06 GMT -5
No matter how rusty the supposed 'original buried owl', even if not bronze as stated, I'd rather have the original.
I feel whatever 'Max' buried is for the solver of the clues to find. Not a replacement.
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Post by aloftcroft on Nov 2, 2021 20:09:35 GMT -5
I wonder if Michel Becker mistook oxidized bronze for rusted iron? On second thought, I don't think so.
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Post by astree on Nov 3, 2021 5:58:18 GMT -5
. Some details may be lost in translation. It reads as though there is the golden owl and seven bronze or ferrous metal replicas. Im not involved with this hunt, but the translation reads as though the original buried owl was the first of the replicas, serving as a proxy. Not sure what the word “countermark” means in this context.
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Post by adrienloridan on Nov 3, 2021 13:01:14 GMT -5
The press release from Michel Becker has still not been confirmed by the filing of a bailiff's report in the current proceedings, nor confirmed by the heirs. The legal proceedings have been returned for pre-trial to January 17, 2022. We have to wait unfortunately to determine if this is true, which is not certain, he has two months to provide something to support his words, it may be only a tactic behind a game secret or a provocation towards the treasure hunter, who attacks him in court in order to verify that he is the winner (but without countermark). Confirmed by YC who attacks in court 11/05/2021, everything is possible. The goldenowl treasurehunters association (a2Co) says it is not aware of any agreement either and still has no information to share. A countermark is an object with which we have associated a right of exchange. The 1/8 bronze owl that was buried in 1993 according to MV is the countermark to be found ( and if you wish, exchange for the gold one ). Unless Becker is telling the truth ... and you have to find 2/8 now.
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Post by astree on Nov 3, 2021 16:37:29 GMT -5
Adrien,
Thank you again for more details into the background, and for the countermark explanation. This is all quite intriguing, adding to the the hunt and owl.
January 17th itself is a date of mystery, as relates to Rennes le Chateau and the Blue Apples.
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Post by adrienloridan on Nov 4, 2021 6:08:26 GMT -5
Filed with Maître Blanche NEIGE-SCHMITT, Bailiff, SARL ACTEMIS, 16 avenue Henri IV, 19400 - Argentat Download the rulesNote from the organizer:
Clearly, it is therefore called again, for good form:
1) that the final riddle determines a precise location, at the centimeter close, where the countermark is buried
2) that any fortuitous discovery or discovery resulting from systematic with or without detection device, do not not allow claiming to be declared the winner of the game at meaning of article 5 of the regulations
3) that the only way for game participants to ensure that they the accuracy of both their resolution of the final riddle and of their solution (location of the cache where the countermark) and thus be able to take possession of the lot devolved on the winner (the Golden Owl®), is to unearth the countermark@ editions-chouettedor.com/pages/reglement-du-jeu
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Post by dirkbowden on Nov 4, 2021 12:30:00 GMT -5
He says that he read the solutions and the localisation of the owl's grave was very precise. So he did go to the place during the night, to dig up the owl with a bailif as a witness, that was unfortunately not an original version of the bronze countermark but a random iron bird, with a lot of rust on it on apparently nothing more. According to him, he put afterward an original bronze countermark into the hole and closed the hole again, then the game is still going on (to him).
As far as I was aware from following the hunt for a while, the original was never buried anyway. It was always a countermark (a proxy, cast from the same mold that made the golden prize version) that was buried and could then be exchanged for the prize. This is interesting though as it now means that: the original sealed solution has been shared to more than the original keeper of the solution; and questions have to be raised about the security of the solution now. As someone commented on the YouTube video "Have you taken into account the potential cheating possibilities generated by new technological tools (account hacking / google geolocation etc.)? What assurances of neutrality can you give us in relation to these issues?"
That being said, The Golden Owl remains one of my favourite hunts
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