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Post by texan on Aug 21, 2019 16:20:07 GMT -5
Hi Jenny..Texan here. I have looked for the treasure a couple of times. emailed Mr.Fenn. If it is where I believe then it will be hard for people to find because I have moved the blaze. When I find the time and money I hope to retrieve the Trove if for nothing else then to meet Mr. Fenn. I will let you know. PS: Thank you for all the info you have provided and the question you asked Mr. Fenn.
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Post by texan on Aug 21, 2019 16:21:21 GMT -5
I think many searchers take the line in the poem: 'not far, but too far to walk' as suggesting you might drive or move away from WWWH in some other way than 'walking'. But is this correct? Are there other 'interpretations' for this seemingly simple line? What else might it suggest? Here are the first three stanzas (of the six): As I have gone alone in there And with my treasures bold, I can keep my secret where, And hint of riches new and old.
Begin it where warm waters halt And take it in the canyon down, Not far, but too far to walk. Put in below the home of Brown.
From there it’s no place for the meek, The end is ever drawing nigh; There’ll be no paddle up your creek, Just heavy loads and water high.Hi Jenny..Texan here. I have looked for the treasure a couple of times. emailed Mr.Fenn. If it is where I believe then it will be hard for people to find because I have moved the blaze. When I find the time and money I hope to retrieve the Trove if for nothing else then to meet Mr. Fenn. I will let you know. PS: Thank you for all the info you have provided and the question you asked Mr. Fenn.
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Post by harrytruman on Aug 21, 2019 19:37:02 GMT -5
"The poem is written in plain English words that mean exactly what they say," no? It is. But that doesn't mean Forrest didn't engineer additional information into the structure of the poem that has nothing to do with the words of the poem. Remember, Forrest felt like an architect drawing the poem. He also has insisted that the poem contains no codes, no ciphers, no tricks, no subterfuge, and no tomfoolery. It's straightforward. (Not that I'm trying to convince you or anyone else of this -- I'm just surprised that anyone would think that "not far" and "too far" don't refer to physical distances that can be plotted on and/or "married to" a map, etc.)
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Post by zaphod73491 on Aug 21, 2019 20:48:30 GMT -5
Hi Harry: I think you (or any searcher who is a poem literalist) will be surprised and likely a bit upset with the solution, then.
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Post by harrytruman on Aug 21, 2019 21:48:56 GMT -5
Hi Harry: I think you (or any searcher who is a poem literalist) will be surprised and likely a bit upset with the solution, then. Hah! No, I won't be surprised or upset, because I know it's possible that he's lying about anything (and everything). I just think it's more likely that he's not -- so when he states that it's straightforward and indicates that searchers who overcomplicate it are wasting their time, I deliberately choose to believe him.
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Post by Jenny on Aug 22, 2019 8:34:37 GMT -5
Hi Jenny..Texan here. I have looked for the treasure a couple of times. emailed Mr.Fenn. If it is where I believe then it will be hard for people to find because I have moved the blaze. When I find the time and money I hope to retrieve the Trove if for nothing else then to meet Mr. Fenn. I will let you know. PS: Thank you for all the info you have provided and the question you asked Mr. Fenn. Forrest has said: 'While it's not impossible to move the Blaze, it isn't feasible to try, and I'm certain it is still there.' However, I'm not sure I believe the Blaze can be moved by just a person.......and if you did, when doing so, why didn't you just look quickly down and grab the Treasure Chest when there? I do wish you the best of luck ..... stay safe and always treasure the adventure!
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Post by zaphod73491 on Aug 22, 2019 22:17:10 GMT -5
I think that when Forrest speaks of the "what ifs?" he could very well be referring to preconceived notions about the blaze. I've read maybe 100 blazes on blogs and all shared one element in common. Suppose that one commonality is wrong?
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Post by ironwill on Aug 23, 2019 11:24:12 GMT -5
I think many searchers take the line in the poem: 'not far, but too far to walk' as suggesting you might drive or move away from WWWH in some other way than 'walking'. But is this correct? Are there other 'interpretations' for this seemingly simple line? What else might it suggest? I'll list my possible ideas on Too Far To Walk which are all theoretical: 1- DISTANCE CLUE: Two Four Two Paces (Walk) Distance of 242 paces or 605 feet (approx.) 2- CROSSING BODY OF WATER: To continue down this canyon you must boat as the river has no sides of the canyon to walk down, or you must cross a river section to continue. 3- DRIVING SIGNIFICANT DISTANCE: We think in different terms, but what if it means driving 30 miles down a scenic highway to get to the HOB? 4- BOTTOM OF A DAM AT A LAKE: It's not far but you cannot just walk down the side of a dam, due to the drop. 5- CROSSING A STREET: This goes back to the biddies chapter where a hint could be the old biddies laughing and saying that Forrest (as a boy) wasn't allowed to walk across the street. 6- MUST FLY FROM ONE POINT TO HOB: This could refer to Canadian border than one must travel (fly) down to HOB in Co. or New Mexico. 7- TIME CROSSING: My least favorite theory, the Ice Age being WWWH, down the canyon of Time to another time which would be the HOB. (I just can't resolve this one in a full poem clear) There....might be more, but those are the ones off the top of my head
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Post by zaphod73491 on Aug 23, 2019 13:51:50 GMT -5
Hi Ironwill: in my opinion, it's none of those. The clue, when deciphered, describes a specific geographical place, not a distance.
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Post by ironwill on Aug 24, 2019 8:32:36 GMT -5
. No, no, no ... a thousand times no! Hi ironwill ... If I could veto one of your suggestions, it would be that one >>> "crossing a body of water". I think the prospect of boating or crossing a body of water would be too dangerous for some searchers. Let me suggest another possibility >>> searcher needs to parachute in. After all, Forrest mentions his parachute in TTOTC. Seriously though, I think zap is correct when he says none of the above. Umm....I was just naming off theoretical possibilities. No need to bite my head off.
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Post by goldilocks on Aug 24, 2019 17:24:54 GMT -5
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Post by Jenny on Aug 24, 2019 19:12:32 GMT -5
. No, no, no ... a thousand times no! Hi ironwill ... If I could veto one of your suggestions, it would be that one >>> "crossing a body of water". I think the prospect of boating or crossing a body of water would be too dangerous for some searchers. Let me suggest another possibility >>> searcher needs to parachute in. After all, Forrest mentions his parachute in TTOTC. Seriously though, I think zap is correct when he says none of the above. Umm....I was just naming off theoretical possibilities. No need to bite my head off. lol....That made me smile.... so glad we can all get along here... you all are great...
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Post by Jenny on Sept 20, 2019 12:38:58 GMT -5
This thought was mentioned on the MW YouTube channel, and I wanted to add it here for reference as it is a different idea for too far to walk:
by J Tom:
Anyone who thinks "too far to walk" means get in your car and drive are WAY off. It's "not far" but means you can "walk" there, think of an opposite side of a river or opposite canyon rim that must be navigated first. The driving thing is just silly.
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Post by CJ on Sept 20, 2019 15:12:35 GMT -5
Huh? I think I disagree with that one...It could just mean somewhere that you can't go (a bridge too far?)...or maybe you do have to cross a body of water (ferry anyone?)....or take a train? Ride a horse?
Maybe it does mean that you "look" down the canyon - see the home of Brown - and then "go" there - and maybe it's physically impossible to walk from the starting point to hoB....if that's what he meant, I could maybe get my mind around that...
In my solves, so far, there was significant physical distance between (almost all of the) clues, so much that it wouldn't make sense to walk.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2019 19:10:18 GMT -5
Hi Jenny, Forrest says "The poem is straight forward with no subterfuge in sight."
The preface to the book "too far to walk" suggests that this is ten miles.
Why would we doubt this?
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