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Post by Jenny on Aug 12, 2019 18:10:27 GMT -5
I think many searchers take the line in the poem: 'not far, but too far to walk' as suggesting you might drive or move away from WWWH in some other way than 'walking'. But is this correct? Are there other 'interpretations' for this seemingly simple line? What else might it suggest?
Here are the first three stanzas (of the six):
As I have gone alone in there
And with my treasures bold,
I can keep my secret where,
And hint of riches new and old.
Begin it where warm waters halt
And take it in the canyon down,
Not far, but too far to walk.
Put in below the home of Brown.
From there it’s no place for the meek,
The end is ever drawing nigh;
There’ll be no paddle up your creek,
Just heavy loads and water high.
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Post by Jenny on Aug 12, 2019 19:34:55 GMT -5
It is 'too far to walk' because it goes straight down? Like a cliff....?
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Post by zaphod73491 on Aug 12, 2019 23:57:56 GMT -5
Jenny: that line of the poem is the reason nearly all the 2-clue solvers didn't become 3-clue solvers. They all read it as a distance to be figured out. Not imaginative enough IMO.
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Post by davebakedpotato on Aug 13, 2019 1:17:58 GMT -5
This is a key line IMO. If you gave the poem to a puzzler who'd not seen it before and said "there's clues in here - what are they?" I think this is the first one they would spot. It reads like a crossword clue.
When looking for answers I came up with quite a few, especially ones relating to 'death', 'heaven/hell', 'the past', 'shadows' all which resonate with TTOTC.
One pretty good one is 'Death Row' (as in to row a boat, as opposed to walking).
However, does this approach veer too much towards a 'riddle (drone or cipher)'?
For those that think books subsequent to TTOTC have a specific answer (distance), have a think - what if Forrest had sadly passed away following publication of TTOTC? You would never have got that distance.
Just one opinion, as usual don't mind being corrected.
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Post by davebakedpotato on Aug 16, 2019 15:08:06 GMT -5
*tumbleweed,*
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Post by Bownarrow on Aug 16, 2019 19:12:03 GMT -5
dalneitzel.com/I had not noticed until now that in the ad for the book "Too far to walk" on Dal's site, it is described as "A Hinting memoir". Has that description always been there?
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Post by Jenny on Aug 19, 2019 6:31:55 GMT -5
dalneitzel.com/I had not noticed until now that in the ad for the book "Too far to walk" on Dal's site, it is described as "A Hinting memoir". Has that description always been there? I think it has.... however...There hasn't been much discussion on it.... Thanks for bringing attention to it... So let's ask...What does that mean? A Hinting Memoir? Is it called that because the book contains the 'map'? Or maybe because of the Preface.....which gives reason for the title and maybe 10 miles being 'too far to walk'. But is it the same reason/distance for the line in the poem? |
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Post by zaphod73491 on Aug 19, 2019 12:36:07 GMT -5
Hi Jenny: Forrest has said the unintended clue is not in the preface of TFTW. For people to conclude that "about 10 miles" is the answer to the poem's "Not far, but too far to walk" would mean that searchers trying to solve the poem from 2010-2013 lacked crucial information, since that 10-mile information was unavailable to them (and there is no way to unambiguously pull that 10 miles from the poem). The poem and the right map(s) should give you everything you need to figure out where Forrest hid Indulgence. Searchers who believe otherwise would have to conclude that Forrest deliberately withheld information for 3 years to prevent too-early solution of the poem, and I just don't see him doing that.
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Post by van on Aug 20, 2019 19:57:22 GMT -5
FF quote " I knew where I wanted to hide the treasure chest. So it was easy for me to put one foot down and then step on it to get to the next foot.
What is "IT" in the sentence, he is not stepping on his own foot. Is FF stepping on a gas pedal or a set of stairs to get to the next foot (location)?
Could be blaze = Stare = Stairs, so the blaze is a set of stairs in a odd location?
More foot trivia: If you anagram the 9th letter of each of the first nine lines of the poem = foot thyme.
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Post by chesttroll on Aug 20, 2019 20:37:08 GMT -5
FF quote " I knew where I wanted to hide the treasure chest. So it was easy for me to put one foot down and then step on it to get to the next foot.
What is "IT" in the sentence, he is not stepping on his own foot. Is FF stepping on a gas pedal or a set of stairs to get to the next foot (location)?
Could be blaze = Stare = Stairs, so the blaze is a set of stairs in a odd location?
More foot trivia: If you anagram the 9th letter of each of the first nine lines of the poem = foot thyme.
I like the anagram! I never seen/heard FF say that quote. Where's that from? |
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Post by harrytruman on Aug 20, 2019 22:46:55 GMT -5
Hi Jenny: Forrest has said the unintended clue is not in the preface of TFTW. For people to conclude that "about 10 miles" is the answer to the poem's "Not far, but too far to walk" would mean that searchers trying to solve the poem from 2010-2013 lacked crucial information, since that 10-mile information was unavailable to them (and there is no way to unambiguously pull that 10 miles from the poem). The poem and the right map(s) should give you everything you need to figure out where Forrest hid Indulgence. Searchers who believe otherwise would have to conclude that Forrest deliberately withheld information for 3 years to prevent too-early solution of the poem, and I just don't see him doing that. Zap, don't you think there's a lot of crucial information searchers still don't have available (e.g., the distance we might travel "up a creek" before/while looking for or going to the blaze)? Isn't he still deliberately withholding what is evidently crucial information, 9 years in? For what it's worth, I think "about 10 miles" gives us, at best, the minimum distance that is "too far to walk." If 10 miles is "too far to walk," then so is 11, and 12, and 13, etc. The related (and maybe more important) question is how far is "far"? We don't want to go that distance, whatever it is.... Say it's 25 miles. With the TFTW preface, Forrest possibly gave us the minimum distance (and if it is one of the hints in TFTW, it's certainly an intended one and not the unintended one -- he referred to hints/clues in the plural, but "the unintended" is singular). But the "far" distance remains a stumbling block -- and I suspect that the two-clue solvers went past the 10-mile mark and the 25-mile mark (or whatever qualifies as "far") and, or course, they went right past the treasure. Really, I think, the crucial questions here are what/where is the home of Brown -- and how many miles beyond 10 miles will we find it? I'd guess that Forrest (ca. 2010) thought that searchers would have more success answering these questions. |
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Post by zaphod73491 on Aug 20, 2019 23:40:11 GMT -5
Hi Harry: I think 10 miles is a distance far greater than any clue is located from any other. And I think NF,BTFTW has nothing to do with distance.
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Post by harrytruman on Aug 21, 2019 12:32:57 GMT -5
Hi Harry: I think 10 miles is a distance far greater than any clue is located from any other. And I think NF,BTFTW has nothing to do with distance. "The poem is written in plain English words that mean exactly what they say," no? |
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Post by zaphod73491 on Aug 21, 2019 15:17:01 GMT -5
Hi Harry: I think 10 miles is a distance far greater than any clue is located from any other. And I think NF,BTFTW has nothing to do with distance. "The poem is written in plain English words that mean exactly what they say," no? It is. But that doesn't mean Forrest didn't engineer additional information into the structure of the poem that has nothing to do with the words of the poem. Remember, Forrest felt like an architect drawing the poem. |
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Post by van on Aug 21, 2019 15:56:23 GMT -5
FF quote " I knew where I wanted to hide the treasure chest. So it was easy for me to put one foot down and then step on it to get to the next foot.
What is "IT" in the sentence, he is not stepping on his own foot. Is FF stepping on a gas pedal or a set of stairs to get to the next foot (location)?
Could be blaze = Stare = Stairs, so the blaze is a set of stairs in a odd location?
More foot trivia: If you anagram the 9th letter of each of the first nine lines of the poem = foot thyme.
I like the anagram! I never seen/heard FF say that quote. Where's that from? I would look up the word "contiguous" on tarryscant.com to see the full context of the quote. |
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