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Post by goldwatch on Oct 6, 2017 10:25:15 GMT -5
Swanka, you're spot on about the depth. But remember, don't try to fit the clues/hints to your solve. If it ain't happenin', then maybe it ain't quite right? But I'm not saying you are wrong, maybe you just haven't found what you're looking for yet. Just don't lock on target yet, ya know? Keep your mind open and your pathways clear.
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Post by voxpops on Oct 6, 2017 11:04:07 GMT -5
Very interesting discussion. Although the number 2 is very important to my solution, I have no idea whether or not there are two objects to find, or indeed two treasures. What I do believe, however, is that there are two endings, and that the second one can only be found once you have solved everything else and revealed the first end.
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Post by goldwatch on Oct 6, 2017 13:48:08 GMT -5
Very interesting discussion. Although the number 2 is very important to my solution, I have no idea whether or not there are two objects to find, or indeed two treasures. What I do believe, however, is that there are two endings, and that the second one can only be found once you have solved everything else and revealed the first end. Interesting stuff. I was holding off on this "2 treasures" thing before I saw what I've posted (plus another one coming up), as well as that I didn't know FF had spoken of the two different treasure weights twice each, and consistent in how he describes each (as I posted in the OP). Before that I thought it could be what you said, and I still think that's a solid take because of the depth of this riddle.
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Post by voxpops on Oct 6, 2017 13:52:26 GMT -5
Yes, it's a little weird regarding the two weights (what isn't in this Chase?), and you might be right. One thing to consider is that he makes "errors" to draw attention to something he wants searchers to consider.
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Post by swanka on Oct 6, 2017 15:50:45 GMT -5
Swanka, you're spot on about the depth. But remember, don't try to fit the clues/hints to your solve. If it ain't happenin', then maybe it ain't quite right? But I'm not saying you are wrong, maybe you just haven't found what you're looking for yet. Just don't lock on target yet, ya know? Keep your mind open and your pathways clear. thanks goldwatch is good advice I'm wondering do you or OH! have the dates FF made the 2 42# and 44# comments
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Post by goldwatch on Oct 6, 2017 16:20:49 GMT -5
Adding more to this, and this circles around to my OP...
If you go to page 56 of TFTW (Too Far To Walk), you'll see the picture of the young FF, Peggy, and all the young folks sleeping on the floor. This is the one where OH! got his 43 from. I'm not saying OH!'s solve doesn't still apply, this is another take from that picture that applies to the 2 treasures idea. And when you add all that I've shown, I don't know how anyone can not be convinced.
Looking at the picture, we see 2 pairs of shoes that have something on the sides. Peggy's shoes are on page 57 and have nothing written on them, so I'm looking at the two pairs that do. Now, both of these pairs have a number (one is a little hard to read), and the other shoe of each pair as what looks like a 'M'. It's upside down on one shoe because the shoe is upside down in the view. So that's a "mistake", or in other words, a hint. 'M' stands for "Mom". And this is a hint that, at least for this hint, these two number go together.
The number we see there on those two pairs of shoes is either 46 or 48. And if you go to those pages in TFTW you'll find "Mom And Me". With a sketch of their Texas home on page 48, and the picture of FF's mom in between (page 47). Going back to the 2 pages that precede this, pages 45 and 44, we see more pictures connected to this story, of FF's mom and her twin sister. Looking at page 44, with the double picture frame, FF says they had to show his mom and her sister together because they looked so much alike (a reference to the two treasures). But look closely, those two pictures (supposedly of mom and her sister in the double frame) are actually the same exact picture mirrored in reverse. Another hint.
Going to TTOTC and page 46 we see a picture of FF's summer vacation home. And I'll point out, page 48 is from The Totem Cafe Caper where OH! got his hints.
That leaves the number 3 from the sketch on page 57. OH! used it to get the number 43 in his solve. I'm using it separately because of the tie to the other pair of shoes (the 'M' on the other shoe of each pair). That looks like a cat's tail. Here's FF's Cheshire Cat. If you say "chest" and "shire" together, you get "cheshire". Chest is obvious. One definition of "shire" is a breed of horse. From Merrium Webster's: "a type of tall, strong horse used for pulling heavy loads" And the name of the publishing company is "One Horse Land And Cattle Co." With a logo of a horse. Somewhere I've read that FF talked about his mom as carrying a heavy load taking care of family matters. But I don't recall where that was.
So there's a connection to horse shoes, and heavy loads. I believe there's a lot more to those hints though.
And 3 takes us to page 3, back where it all started with the picture of the treasure chest and the 109 mirrored in it.
If you go back to my OP, and connect all this together (strings, ropes, etc.), I think you'll see the connection between two treasures, one of gold and one about home and family, mirrors, and twins, all tied together by the strings (giant ball of string). Consider "chest" and "box", with the latter as "home". In other words, home and family are worth their weight in gold. Two treasures.
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Post by voxpops on Oct 6, 2017 16:56:02 GMT -5
That is superb research, BB, and I think you've nailed the real meaning behind two treasures. I don't think there are two physical treasures, but that the chest is symbolic of something that goes much deeper.
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Post by goldwatch on Oct 6, 2017 20:06:46 GMT -5
That is superb research, BB, and I think you've nailed the real meaning behind two treasures. I don't think there are two physical treasures, but that the chest is symbolic of something that goes much deeper. Vox, yes there are two treasures. As I said in the OP, Forrest talked 4 times about his treasures hidden, twice as 42 pounds and twice as 44 pounds. And he called the 42 pounds a "box full of gold" both times. And he called the 44 pounds a "chest full of gold and precious gems" both times. Consistent differences. Thanks, btw, it was a lot of work and it's nice to be appreciated for that. But then again, all I did was follow the leads. It was more work organizing my thoughts about it than actually finding it.
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Post by rahrah on Oct 6, 2017 20:32:01 GMT -5
42 pounds = 19.05 kilos, 672 ounces, and 3 stone 44 pounds = 19.95 kiols, 704 ounces, and 3.14 stone
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Post by goldwatch on Oct 6, 2017 23:07:22 GMT -5
3 = 3 stones turned over? Interesting. That's worth keeping in mind and a lookout for additional hints to. Especially in light of FF's use of archaic measures like links.
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Post by rahrah on Oct 6, 2017 23:55:45 GMT -5
3 = 3 stones turned over? Interesting. That's worth keeping in mind and a lookout for additional hints to. Especially in light of FF's use of archaic measures like links. Yup...and 3.14 is pi....twice, two pi's, tau.....enjoy!
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Post by goldwatch on Oct 7, 2017 13:13:44 GMT -5
I added: "And the name of the publishing company is "One Horse Land And Cattle Co." With a logo of a horse." to the post above that starts with: "Adding more to this, and this circles around to my OP..."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 14:58:24 GMT -5
It is an interesting thought on two treasure chest but my belief is still that there is one, but an open mind I will keep. A ball of string is called a "clew" A clue can also be spelled clew. If you tied on 3 strings a day for a year, how many strings would you have? 1095. At what molecular angle does warm waters halt? 109.5.......................
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Post by goldwatch on Oct 7, 2017 15:36:21 GMT -5
It is an interesting thought on two treasure chest but my belief is still that there is one, but an open mind I will keep. A ball of string is called a "clew" A clue can also be spelled clew. If you tied on 3 strings a day for a year, how many strings would you have? 1095. At what molecular angle does warm waters halt? 109.5....................... Yes, I agree that that's strong evidence for ice or snow. That's just a question of moving the point, too. Now I have to go read your post on periods/points again, lol.
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Post by swanka on Oct 7, 2017 18:30:46 GMT -5
im very interested in the 4 dates FF sais 44# 44# 42# 42#. alteast if 44 and 42 was said before TFTW was released of if after
there has to be 2 chests atleast in the solve like a false stash for the 42 109. what I call the blaze I found at 43 109 and the image of chest at 42 109 is probably the strongest verifiable confirmation to 43 109 and prolly something at 44 109 every step that lead me to 43 109 was fact based no assumptions.
and the top row of that spice rack is on purpose I'm sure 4 jars in 3 slots 43 and 10 jars in 9 slot 109
plus whatever you haven't shown us there has to be away to use 43 109 to unlock something I'm just clueless to what and never read the books
I am pretty sure someone right here on this forum will solve it soon or make a major break through.
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