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Post by goldwatch on Jul 10, 2018 8:39:28 GMT -5
Add to this: 1) The "16th century Italian" chest from Margie Goldsmith's article, www.forbes.com/sites/margiegoldsmith/2018/06/28/hello-world/amp/2) Pages 46 and 47 of the newest book, "Once Upon A While"... The first sentence, "My brother Skippy never had a plan B..." And then Forrest tells how Skippy's fireworks store blew up. And that was it for that enterprise. Also, look at the picture of Skippy there. His hands on his hips, he's holding out two fingers like it's a secret sign. The explosion equals fireworks, like when the first treasure is found. Then on page 48 is the illustration. "Pow". With the centers of the P and the O whited out, as if to say "look!". And TWO stick figures flying above. At the end, Forrest says: "I don't know who decided that we can't go back and do it all over again, but I don't subscribe to it."So, doing another treasure hunt by hiding a second treasure? As a plan B? |
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Post by renardmiroir on Jul 10, 2018 9:27:06 GMT -5
Nice!
That picture of Skippy holding the "secret sign of two" is also on page 54 of The Thrill Of The Chase.
There's a very interesting thing to note here.
Pages 56 and 57 are one printed sheet.
There is no reason for the double images at the middle of the threaded divider. (Is that called a spline?)
So if you look at the bottom left of the illustration, you see a patch of bushes and what looks like a thumbs up sign right there at the bottom (at the fold in the middle). And it looks like it's a double image of the kind you might expect if they were printed a little off line on two separate sheets. But it's one sheet. No reason for the double image.
Two thumbs up, intentionally placed but hidden in a common enough happenstance that doesn't apply here.
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Post by lookinup on Jul 11, 2018 15:56:04 GMT -5
Can't find any doubt about it - Two chests.
Could be that the answers are closer than we might think.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 11, 2018 21:14:49 GMT -5
There is ONE chest of goodies. I don't understand why people feel the need to complicate the situation -- especially when Forrest not long ago advised searchers to "simplify."
But history somehow always manages to repeat itself. When the golden hare for Masquerade was found, and the author announced that it had been found ... no matter. Thousands of pigheaded or delusional searchers continued their quests, quite convinced their own ideas were superior to the winning solution, and therefore an even greater prize was out there waiting for them. I can almost guarantee the same thing is going to happen when Fenn's treasure is found.
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Post by lookinup on Jul 11, 2018 22:07:59 GMT -5
Yes, one chest with the "goodies" while one other to provide the proof required to actually claim it .....IMO.
Trust and respect will hopefully 'simplify' the process.
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Post by goldwatch on Jul 11, 2018 22:55:54 GMT -5
There is ONE chest of goodies. I don't understand why people feel the need to complicate the situation -- especially when Forrest not long ago advised searchers to "simplify." But history somehow always manages to repeat itself. When the golden hare for Masquerade was found, and the author announced that it had been found ... no matter. Thousands of pigheaded or delusional searchers continued their quests, quite convinced their own ideas were superior to the winning solution, and therefore an even greater prize was out there waiting for them. I can almost guarantee the same thing is going to happen when Fenn's treasure is found. What's complicated? 1) Many 2's 2) Different descriptions that mean more than one chest if accurate 3) Comments such as: "My brother Skippy never had a plan B..." and "I don't know who decided that we can't go back and do it all over again, but I don't subscribe to it." It seems uncomplicated to me. I can concede that it's not 100% proof. But not that it's definitely out of the realm of possibility. Doesn't really matter to me one way or the other. I'm effectively out of the hunt. It's just a curiosity for me, while I ween myself off this thing. |
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 12, 2018 0:15:40 GMT -5
Your pieces of evidence are outside the poem. Forrest has provided hundreds of thousands of words of "material" from which searchers can mine for "associations": a dangerously misleading pastime. If you can't derive a particular solution from the poem exclusively, it's unlikely to bear fruit.
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Post by voxpops on Jul 12, 2018 2:11:04 GMT -5
Your pieces of evidence are outside the poem. Forrest has provided hundreds of thousands of words of "material" from which searchers can mine for "associations": a dangerously misleading pastime. If you can't derive a particular solution from the poem exclusively, it's unlikely to bear fruit. I couldn't agree more. The poem will lead you to the ONE treasure chest! That said, the references to two are important. It's something you need to keep in the back of your mind as you solve this. |
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Post by goldwatch on Jul 12, 2018 2:24:57 GMT -5
Your pieces of evidence are outside the poem. Forrest has provided hundreds of thousands of words of "material" from which searchers can mine for "associations": a dangerously misleading pastime. If you can't derive a particular solution from the poem exclusively, it's unlikely to bear fruit. There's all kinds of stuff that's outside the poem. But it all connects to it. Unless you have that stuff, and it's extensive, you can't really understand the poem. Yeah, you can solve the poem, but you can't understand the depth of it. And you can't see the testament to Forrest' love for Peggy, nor the way he thanks his rescuers from the jungles of Laos, both connected to the solve. But you won't believe me unless I give you solutions, and I'm not doing that. |
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Post by CJ on Jul 15, 2018 22:29:04 GMT -5
Well, wow. this is quite the thread. I'll just say that I don't believe that there are two treasures, nor do I believe that there are two chests.
That said, I do think that there are two possibilities related to this.
The first is, and I've thought this for a long time, that you have to solve the poem twice (or solve two riddles) in two different locations in order to get to the end. I believe that the two solves are "circular", and represented by the double omegas, etc... - There are two endings - and if you think about an infinity symbol, they never end...they both circle back on each other...So, the "prize" lies at the end and at the beginning of both.
The second possibility that I could subscribe to is that there is a "container" at the end of the solution, which contains the "title to the gold" - which has to be presented in order to receive the actual gold (or some other amazing prize), which would be the way that he would know whether or not it's been found.
I do appreciate all of the deep thinking here - I just don't personally believe that there are two treasure boxes with different treasures inside of them hidden in different locations.
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Post by voxpops on Jul 16, 2018 1:39:22 GMT -5
...you have to solve the poem twice (or solve two riddles) in two different locations in order to get to the end. Listen good to CJ! |
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Post by heidini on Jul 17, 2018 20:27:49 GMT -5
It would be nice to have 2 treasures. But maybe one treasure is tangible and the other one is spiritual.
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Post by goldwatch on Jul 18, 2018 9:47:27 GMT -5
Ahaha, CJ is right.
Well, the bad news is that there's no proof of a second treasure.
But the good news is (for me) that I now have the cemetery.
This is the third strong hint to the same thing that I have directly from the stories. Plus the ever-so-cool other things that take a lot more work to find.
Oh, if the fates were kinder. Ya think I can get away with calling them "old biddies" yet? lol
I'm still wondering about the chest variations though.
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