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Post by 0o The Puzzler o0 on Nov 14, 2023 11:30:20 GMT -5
I can definitely see the value in this potential solve.
I see the image of Louis himself, obviously. Arch Armstrong is an entrance to the park and features both the arch-within-an-arch and the circle-within-an-arch. Note Louis' statue holding something in his hand, held up similarly to the position of arm and hand in the image. Given that the hand is extending out a theater mask, maybe consider the Mahalia Jackson Theater as a location to see or pass along the way, which is next to the Louis Armstrong statue. Moon - I interpret this as Moon Landrieu, the mayor at the time who dedicated the park to Louis and made a big impact in terms of integrating the people of N.O.
Lots of reasons to like this. Nice work.
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Post by choice on Nov 14, 2023 12:53:04 GMT -5
Choice said; ""Fays delight"... [=] Face the light." I'll attribute this interpretation to @forest_blight since he posted this on Q4T in 2007. Also canuck mentioned it more recently. But I have to say that I do not care for high-traffic area of a park as a dig area. Maybe he jumped the fence and sneaked in under cover of darkness. Or maybe he didn't really bury some of the casks. He may've relied on people contacting him as instructed in the book with their solve. I'll post your Fort Moultrie grave trees pic later on Q4T even-though Poe's Library may be a better fit on Sullivan's Island. Battery Gadsden is a part of Fort Moultrie complex.
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Post by canuck on Nov 14, 2023 21:26:17 GMT -5
The latitude/longitude coordinates for New Orleans, plenty of speculation over the years of the missing latitude coordinate being hidden behind the mask. If you count all the stars in the image both full and partial they total 30 and that just happens to be the missing latitude coordinate.
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Post by 0o The Puzzler o0 on Nov 15, 2023 9:55:01 GMT -5
The latitude/longitude coordinates for New Orleans, plenty of speculation over the years of the missing latitude coordinate being hidden behind the mask. If you count all the stars in the image both full and partial they total 30 and that just happens to be the missing latitude coordinate. Isn't New Orleans 29 & 90, both on the clock face?
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Post by choice on Nov 15, 2023 13:34:38 GMT -5
You normally need two coordinates to create a "box" of interest i.e. 90/91 + 29/30.
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Post by choice on Nov 16, 2023 13:33:24 GMT -5
It's also interesting that the Japanese version of the Secret starts and ends with the weathervane looking angel/fairy on top of the neck-pole!
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Post by choice on Nov 16, 2023 14:47:00 GMT -5
I can definitely see the value in this potential solve. I see the image of Louis himself, obviously. Arch Armstrong is an entrance to the park and features both the arch-within-an-arch and the circle-within-an-arch. Note Louis' statue holding something in his hand, held up similarly to the position of arm and hand in the image. Given that the hand is extending out a theater mask, maybe consider the Mahalia Jackson Theater as a location to see or pass along the way, which is next to the Louis Armstrong statue. Moon - I interpret this as Moon Landrieu, the mayor at the time who dedicated the park to Louis and made a big impact in terms of integrating the people of N.O. Lots of reasons to like this. Nice work. You can make the same argument for other sites. Jackson Square for example. Louis Armstrong mask is NOLA pointer. Clock face is diagram of JS. Two circles with dial on clock hand are the cannon hubs in Washington Artillery Park. Verse wording "near this site" is on the plaque at WAP. Seconds hand is for unique lamp posts (2) at WAP. The float boy with French beret within the Jackson Square diagram is a hint to the park's name. The clock hands point to V. V in French playing cards is for Valet which is Jack. Here are pictures of Valet:
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Post by choice on Nov 16, 2023 20:36:40 GMT -5
I go back to the point I tried to make earlier. 3 possibilities for Louis mask: 1) Louis Armstrong Park, no strong French connection. 2) Louis XIV St., Harlequin Park, Strong French connection but latitude out of bounds (will explain). 3) Saint Louis Cathedral, named after French Louis IX, float boy looking at IX. Jackson square area is near where French Quarter and French Market meet. Lat./Long. 29/90 shown in image. Backward 91 also present. It leaves us with the latitude range. The hidden latitude number should be obvious. If 28, the box/square of interest would be in Gulf of Mexico. So 30 is hidden because it is the only option and no need to put it there. Besides there's a reason for that corner being hidden. 6 + 7 + 8 o'clock are hidden. Middle of 21 (6+7+8) would be 7 o'clock. 15 steps down from artillery to the ground. 7 o'clock on the Jackson Square clock may be the dig-spot. The seconds hand of the clock may be the flagpole with the ball finial on top. The flagpole is at near 5 o'clock position but used to be at near 7 o'clock. Also a fountain used to be across the street that resembled the gem holder in the painting . Again, I don't like high traffic and exposed areas of parks. Here's a postcard from the era:
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Post by diceycat on Nov 16, 2023 20:56:34 GMT -5
So what exactly was the Irish connection for Grant park in Chicago. Grant was an American from English and Scottish ancestry. I think NOLA and the history behind it Is enough of a French connection. Armstrong park makes the most sense for being the location. Why add 6+7+8? How about we multiply or divide? I doubt the puzzle is that cryptic that we should add numbers. Then again It’s all theory
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Post by choice on Nov 16, 2023 21:51:08 GMT -5
In the middle of twenty-one. From end to end, head to toe; float boy looking at 9 (his head) and his foot (toe) pointing to 5. 9 to 5, only 3 numbers not shown. Only 3 "stand watch", missing numbers on "long case clock". The middle number is 7. Many occurances of 7 in the painting including fingers and flowers. The 3 numbers happened to add up to 21, perhaps a confirmer of the 3 numbers on the stand watch. You do you.
p.s. Chicago was Irish/Scottish region puzzle. So Scott ancestry will do.
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Post by diceycat on Nov 16, 2023 23:24:55 GMT -5
Well the 8 is not completely covered by the mask. I still think the middle of 21 is 11 and the line 15 rows down to the ground ties into that 11. The fence matches exactly. I don’t know if BP ever called rows steps. Maybe?
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Post by forestlink on Dec 6, 2023 3:20:02 GMT -5
Jumping in here with my 2¢! I think there's more reason to consider this spot.
The verse has many more concrete clues than anything hidden under a microscope in the image. Specifically it mentions "gnomes" and "fays" meeting "near this site." The Japanese hints highlight those lines. From the introduction we are told about the French and Spanish fays and the gnomes coming from the "lowlands" i.e. Holland. The fountain above is in the French Market by the Dutch Alley, which opened around 1978. It's also close to Jackson Park (matching the clock shape?), Washington Artillery Park (15 steps?), and other suggested sites. If this works anything like the other solved verses, it'll be guiding us across part of the city to the dig spot (and not necessarily in order). I'm stumped though. Could the fountain be in the middle of 21 of anything? Or 15 rows? Where might the "sound of friends" be coming from (Cafe du Mond?)?
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Post by choice on Dec 6, 2023 11:53:22 GMT -5
That tunnel in picture above is in the middle of 21 arched facades in Dutch alley; 10 on one side and 11 on the other. 3 stand watch, there are 3 cupolas on the building. Cupola in French is cou-pole or neck-pole i.e. the painting. Similar to Boston that we had home and tower of light, here we have the fountain and light. Base of the light post looks like a chess bishop piece.
The problem the BOTG people encountered is presence of multiple security cameras and also electrical items that seem newer.
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