The Clues for a Secret Casque to be in Milwaukee

[diceycat]

As a landmark this location ( Belleview Place and Oakleaf trail intersection ), doesn’t make much sense since you already have the skeleton key ( bridge) as the landmark to the south. How does it fit in to a solution?

[choice]

There are redundancies in these vague puzzles perhaps to confirm our original finding. There are half a dozen references to "14" in NOLA image as if pounding it into our thick skulls!

[ju4crafts]

This is my theory:

View the three stories of Mitchell (denotes Mitchell Hall on corner of E. Kenwood Blvd and N. Downer Ave)
As you walk the beating of the world (Go east on Kenwood Blvd go south on N. Downer Ave, go east on Locust Street hence the beating of the world, locust in painting)
At a distance in time from 3 who lived there ( continue east on Locust Street pass Downer, Hack and Shepherd Avenues)
At a distance in space from woman, with harpsichord silently playing (pass Marietta Avenue for Marietta Robusti)
Step on nature ( Lake Park)
Cast in copper (Lincoln Memorial Drive)
Ascend the 92 steps after climbing the grand 200 (grand staircase)
Pass the compass (Masonic symbol- Go to Lake Park footbridge)
and reach the foot of the culvert below the bridge (there is a culvert pipe sticking out of the hill on google maps)
Walk 100 paces southeast over rock and soil (Go toward Lincoln Memorial Drive)
To the first young birch (Take Oak Leaf Trail)
Pass three,staying west (Oak Leaf Trail is the first, Linwood Avenue is the second, Newberry Blvd is the third, Lighthouse is the fourth, North Point Water Tower is the 5th.)
You'll see a letter from the country (The letter O is in the fountain at the park southwest of the water tower)
of a wonderstone's hearth on a proud tall fifth. (describes the Water Tower)
At it's southern foot the treasure awaits.
Go to E. Wyoming Place, the "southern foot". There is a set of binoculars. You can line up the bottom of the painting with the base of the structure and the lady. The fold of the cloak mimics the grassy area on the left, where the treasure is to be found. On the southern foot is a red fire hydrant in the public right of way. In the painting the red ball is surrounded by a blue glow like the jewel. GPR scan near the fire hydrant at North Lake Drive and East Wyoming Place and the stop sign.

[wiscwanderer]

Using the resources available in 1982, wouldn't it be more reasonable that the Mitchell Park Domes are used to match vs 8 to the Milwaukee image? Per my other half who has been a life long Milwaukee resident and UWM graduate, and his mother who has lived here for 80yrs Mitchell hall was not labeled until 1992 when the big sign was put up in front. Prior to that you would have had to go to the school and picked up a map of the campus to even know Mitchell Hall existed, and even with that, the campus was so confusing to navigate you would be lucky to find "Mitchell Hall" unless you had a guide. Not to mention it is a fair distance (3+miles) from City Hall and most other identifiers. UWM is also not in the city of Milwaukee, UWM along with Lake Park are actually in Shorewood. 

[byrnietuney]

I've never been to Milwaukee, but I understand you mean this sign;

https://goo.gl/maps/ku9CNnPorWbdvjyZ8
however, I'm willing to believe back then BP would have checked
around the streets surrounding Lake Park and referred to maps &
asked about and visited notable landmarks. (Mitchell Hall is on a
corner with a numerous bus stops surrounding it.)

Interestingly, here is the only actual example of a 'harpsichord'
that I've found in Milwaukee  - in the Art Gallery on one of those
three stories of Mitchell Hall...
If you ask to view the mezzotint of the "woman, with harpsichord
silently playing" (...at hanky panky), they may refer you to this;

https://s3.amazonaws.com/pastperfectonline/images/museum_332/017/200100190-2.jpghttps://uwmart.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/3E9E891B-7055-4E3E-ABBD-355125167492
That mezzotint picture from 1794 has an Object ID beginning with
the notation '2001', which tends to suggest that that may be the
year the Art Gallery received it - but maybe that was the year it
was recorded as belonging to the gallery, it occurs to me that
possibly some Milwaukee grandee loaned it to the gallery in or
prior to the early 80's (the picture subject matter conceivably not
being particularly appropriate to some 20th Century personal tastes)
and perhaps the owner eventually decided years later that the
gallery could keep it permanently.
Shrug. I guess it would be necessary to do further research with
the gallery to determine if in fact the gallery could have had that
picture on display on its' walls back in the early 1980's, for BP to
have seen it.
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Isn't Shorewood north of UWM?

https://www.villageofshorewood.org/DocumentCenter/View/720/Village-Map-PDF?bidId=
https://goo.gl/maps/xT8VpXc4FKJ86Puz9

[wiscwanderer]

Mar 30, 2022 14:50:50 GMT -5 byrnietuney said:

I've never been to Milwaukee, but I understand you mean this sign;

https://goo.gl/maps/ku9CNnPorWbdvjyZ8
however, I'm willing to believe back then BP would have checked
around the streets surrounding Lake Park and referred to maps &
asked about and visited notable landmarks. (Mitchell Hall is on a
corner with a numerous bus stops surrounding it.)

Interestingly, here is the only actual example of a 'harpsichord'
that I've found in Milwaukee  - in the Art Gallery on one of those
three stories of Mitchell Hall...
If you ask to view the mezzotint of the "woman, with harpsichord
silently playing" (...at hanky panky), they may refer you to this;

https://s3.amazonaws.com/pastperfectonline/images/museum_332/017/200100190-2.jpghttps://uwmart.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/3E9E891B-7055-4E3E-ABBD-355125167492
That mezzotint picture from 1794 has an Object ID beginning with
the notation '2001', which tends to suggest that that may be the
year the Art Gallery received it - but maybe that was the year it
was recorded as belonging to the gallery, it occurs to me that
possibly some Milwaukee grandee loaned it to the gallery in or
prior to the early 80's (the picture subject matter conceivably not
being particularly appropriate to some 20th Century personal tastes)
and perhaps the owner eventually decided years later that the
gallery could keep it permanently.
Shrug. I guess it would be necessary to do further research with
the gallery to determine if in fact the gallery could have had that
picture on display on its' walls back in the early 1980's, for BP to
have seen it.
------

Isn't Shorewood north of UWM?

https://www.villageofshorewood.org/DocumentCenter/View/720/Village-Map-PDF?bidId=
https://goo.gl/maps/xT8VpXc4FKJ86Puz9

I was unable to get your links to work, i am not well versed in  attaching them myself.  I do have images collected from the 1980 atlas with the Metro Milw. area on one half, the points of interest on the other, with Mitchell park domes being top center.  Also, in going through my 1982 World Book Encyclopedia, the Mitchell Park domes are also listed when researching Milwaukee.  They were one of the BIG points of interest in the day, and they tell three "stories/ecosystems" that of the Desert, Tropics, and the Floral Show dome with represents the other 4 bio/ecosystems of forest, deciduous, grassland, and tundra. (BTW our corpse flower should be in bloom for another day or two ) I have a strong feeling the general consensus on the Pabst Theater being the Woman with Harpsichord silently playing, is correct in that yes, the female bust is playing a lyre (a type of harp) on the building, in the building the Harpsichord was an instrument strongly tied to the Baroque period performances played in the German theater.  Which would tie into Wagner's Ring and the Rhine maidens. (I have played with the idea that maybe Byron was playing with the word also, Harp C chord - how a harp, lyre, lap harp, harpsichord is played, plucking strings vs a piano where strings are struck).  The Pabst Theater has architectural features that are also portrayed in the image, mainly in the cowl of the dress/cloak you can see these around the doors and the arch above the doors.  I have yet to find an actual photo of the Mitchell Park Domes advertisement that had been on the East facing wall of the Pabst, but I have been able to get pictures of other advertisements on that wall.  Also, another quirk, you can spell out Capt. Pabst from the first letters of the verses.  
I will have to double check on the Milwaukee/Shorewood/ dividing line of the 80's, you may be correct, i may have misspoke, but as a long time resident... lake park and UWM are a not "the city". lol

[wiscwanderer]

And, my tech challenged self figured out how to view your links... sorry, old school and it seems tech is my Achilles heel. Yes, that is the sign i had mentioned - the campus is large and buildings are not as pronounced as you would think. Not sure what the bus situation was in the early 80's, i can check with my other half or his mom, they would know that better than me. I found the map online again, finally - yes, you are correct, in the late 70's the northern border of Milwaukee proper was Keefe Ave. (this is the street my other half grew up on). Milwaukee Downtown is the area I had stuck in my mind, which is outlined on this map, and where most of the identifiers and images matches are located. content.wisconsinhistory.org/digital/collection/maps/id/1341

[choice]

If outline of the woman and her cloak is the N Lake park RD./Oak Leaf Trail AND her hand points to E Belleview Pl. (the outer most point of the trail where it meets Belleview/Wahl Av.) then Lake Park is pretty much the target area.

E (bell) VU

[wbgrimesii]

Compelling

[wiscwanderer]

Mar 31, 2022 17:49:45 GMT -5 choice said:

If outline of the woman and her cloak is the N Lake park RD./Oak Leaf Trail AND her hand points to E Belleview Pl. (the outer most point of the trail where it meets Belleview/Wahl Av.) then Lake Park is pretty much the target area.

E (bell) VU

are you basing some of your theory on the Oak Leaf trail being the step on nature?

[choice]

I was pointing out the visual correlation between the painting and Lake Park Map.

[wiscwanderer]

ah, ok, i can see where that has a similar form. I took the shape in the hand as 87 and the 43 in the flower, which is our Lat. Long. Another really good match up is the right side of her face from the hairline point to her neck with the Kinnickinnic river... then if you take the Milwaukee river and treat it like a clock hand with its southern end being the connection point, rotate it counter clockwise to about the 8 o'clock position and it will mimic her hairline and shadows down to her collar (her right, for us looking at the image it would be the left). When you do that, the point in her forehead actually points to city hall.  Coincidentally, 8 o'clock, if you follow it through across a clock, lines up with 2.  

If she happens to be standing in front of the person taking the picture of city hall, she would be looking at the Performing Arts Center with her body facing North, and gaze looking West towards the river.  (actually her gaze would first hit the PAC, Laurette, Milwaukee river, Pere Marquette park, Milwaukee Journal sentinel/birthplace of the American League, then the Hyatt)  She would be standing on Water street.  It just so happens that if you take about 10 steps or so North of the front doors of the PAC you can look West down State St., which if you are actually looking, you will see an architectural feature that strongly resembles a walking stick  (which looks like the highlighted area of the walking stick - minus the one bulbous end that is strangely in shadow on the image - you would think a rounded end would catch some light and not be in complete shadow).  If you look further down State St., just past the "walking stick" you will see a bascule bridge, but it is a specific type, it is known as a Milwaukee type - 

Quote from Milwaukee riverkeepers:

Milwaukee’s Historic Bascule Bridges

CREATION OF THE “MILWAUKEE TYPE” BASCULE BRIDGE

Bascule bridges have one or two movable spans, called a leaf, which rotate vertically on a horizontal, axle-like pin, known as a “trunnion.” The leaf operates much like a seesaw, which is one meaning of the word “bascule” in French. Bascules originated in the medieval castle drawbridge, which provided a water crossing and an effective barricade when raised.

milwaukeeriverkeeper.org/milwaukees-historic-bascule-bridges/

If you take into account the Japanese translation hint with this, it matches up very nicely with the fact that the two bridge keepers house on this and only this bridge are completely clad -"cast"- in copper. bridgehunter.com/wi/milwaukee/B40098000000000/ (side note, in picture 11, you will see the Hyatt, on top is the large revolving bar that could be said to be similar in shape to a mill stone - especially since it does go around)

If you head that way (west), once you step on the leaf portion of the bridge, and pretend you are a long legged 6' tall man (Byron) after about the 92 step going up and over (ascend) the bridge, you will see this neat little art installation which has a basketball on top, and the 4 directions, N, E, S, W....  Also, if you happen to be looking around as you go over the State St. bridge, you will see a very curious feature under the Kilbourn bridge just to the south of the State St. bridge.. it is a visual match to the "cicada" there is a door and a culvert.  bridgehunter.com/wi/milwaukee/kilbourn-avenue/

[choice]

Coordinates may've been somewhat lost in the low res printing of the day. I used the original '82 book image with magnifying glass and I think I located them about 3 years ago. They may be well camouflaged.

[wiscwanderer]

I can kind of see where you are pulling those numbers. Either way, they fit . If you take that same area and imagine you are standing on a walkway along a river, about 15-20' away, at a 45 degree angle from a wall/bridge, looking down at a brick arch culvert at waters level to your left... thinking 3D... do you see that by chance?

[choice]

Sure , but you can find that feature in Lake Park too!