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Post by diceycat on Mar 26, 2023 19:27:52 GMT -5
My suggestion to you would be to post your complete solution with pictures and all but If you feel uncomfortable with that, then post a solution for the first few lines of the verse. To get an unknown individual to dig for you might never happen., Don’t forget the line where it says get permission to dig.. Good luck.
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Post by diceycat on Nov 5, 2024 10:52:49 GMT -5
I found this connection from Q4T site and the Gilbert Parker lines very compelling for Quebec City and the Joan of Arc garden site which is on the Plains of Abraham .
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Post by choice on Nov 5, 2024 17:04:09 GMT -5
The "Seven Year War" that Parker wrote about was about British conquest of "Quebec Province". Both cities, Montreal and Quebec cities are in this province even though the capture of Quebec City by British won the war. So it doesn't really narrow down the site except to the province.
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Post by choice on Nov 5, 2024 19:01:48 GMT -5
Maybe you need to get "McGill Parking 7" from "Gilbert Parker"!!! P7 is in the painting (X). McTavish Monument solution by the P7 of McGill University.
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Post by diceycat on Nov 5, 2024 19:58:37 GMT -5
Well, I don’t see any thing that could tie into the Mount Stephen hotel/ club in Montreal, from Gilbert Parker’s writing. Only Quebec City in the province of Quebec has the “Citadel”. Too much bacon to go from Gilbert Parker to McGill Parking. If the Citadel is windswept then it’s on top of a hill and it’s a Citadel that he writes about . If one thinks that the building on Drummond with the word Citadel carved into it is somehow windswept then everything is windswept. You need a clear distinction to define the location.
Parker talks about the wingless bird and the windswept Citadel in the same collection of stories called Embers. You can see all the clues from the dig site!
You have the 22nd military regiment that’s tied to the Quebec Citadel and in English terms the regiment is called the “Van Doos”. This could be your Dutch tie in with the word Van which is also in Rembrandts last name “Van Rijn”.
Open minds get results.
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Post by murdock on Nov 7, 2024 15:05:29 GMT -5
Most of the verse lines are at Drummond AKA 'The Lane That Had No Turning'and both the Wingless Bird and Windswept are in this context just other words for ship or canoe.
For the 22nd regiment you could look at Jeanne Mance Parc and Van Doos also literally translates to From Box so you could also look at Ile Notre Dame.(GP)
However that would still be a waste of time with a Parc thats literally named Parc Rembrandt that has a white Easel or a white walled Clock Tower at the Old Port.
Open minds i don't thinks so...It's pretty straightforward.
The puzzles are divided in two groups, either the end location is difficult to find or the dig instructions are difficult to decipher. Which is just like Parc Rembrandt and the Old Port/Clock Tower. Luckily the whole (back of the) book can help you with that.
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Post by diceycat on Nov 7, 2024 17:13:06 GMT -5
Wingless bird = ship… 🤯. Good luck. Better read the Japanese clues . The thing is Gilbert Parker stories are just another tool to get you to look into a location and it might not even apply , but Parker writes about the Plains of Abraham . He talks about wingless bird in the story Embers , there is nothing written about Drummond street or Mount Stephen club. Keep it simple
Just because someone ascribes a Rembrandt style to the painting doesn’t mean that much to me. For the San Francisco painting they say Michelangelo inspired and he’s about Italian as they come.
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Post by choice on Nov 7, 2024 18:02:27 GMT -5
Yes, keep it simple. How would a kid with no AI or even working search engine would find these quotes in a library? There are many similarities between San Francisco and Montreal puzzles: University Club vs Le Mount Stephen Club (Hotel). Nobs of Central Pacific Railroad built their mansions on Nob Hill in San Francisco. Nobs of Canadian Pacific Railway built their mansions in Golden Square Mile of Montreal. Image of "club" (playing cards) in both paintings; in water for SF and in the shadows (negative space) for Montreal. www.lemountstephen.com/files/4124/The_story_of_LMS_-_LOU.pdf
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Post by diceycat on Nov 7, 2024 20:37:16 GMT -5
Your correct about the quotes. One would have to be a rabid reader to figure out Gilbert Parker. I think that with all the technology we have today solving the puzzle would be easier. The digging part is still hard. Similarities, I could say the same for Quebec City/ San Francisco. . You have a very large Fairmont hotel occupying the skyline to the north on top of a hill in both cases.
I’m giving a precise dig spot in Quebec City and nobody has yet come up with one in Montreal.
I think the club image in the art might be a stretch but again it’s JJP art and anyones guess. Might just be pareidolia. So your implying that the formation of the hands in the art work indicates a house and within the hands you squint enough you see a club . Therefore a club house🤔. I’m more inclined to think JJP is implying with the hands a church or religious icon like Joan of Arc (symbol of the horse/ Wolfe). The location between the steps is where you can find the monument of Saint Joan.
I’m starting to think that all the first lines in all the verses begin something in the north of the dig site M and B were north of Xenophon is north of In the shadow of the Grey giant is north of or north side of the Grey Giant slab ( if one thinks it’s in Battery park) We’re jewels abound should be north of Friends of Octave are north of Fortress cold is north of At stonewalls door should be north of For Cleveland your first description of the road is north of Lane 222 is north of ( in Quebec City) In WPG the first lines describe the plaque north of Three stories of Mitchell is north of The sign stating the first chapter written in water is north of
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Post by murdock on Nov 7, 2024 23:22:22 GMT -5
You forgot what this puzzle is all about. The journey from the old world to the new world and that kinda started in Amsterdam and ended with NYC.
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Post by murdock on Nov 7, 2024 23:25:51 GMT -5
Lane - Drummond - French for Donkey - Robert Pilot (The Lane) - AT Lane Two twenty two - McGill Radon 222 (Decays into lead) - Lead paste bucket 222 (back of the book) You’ll see an arc of lights - Mount Royal Cross (St Lawrence River) Weight and roots extended Together saved the site Of granite walls - Bank of Montreal Wind swept halls Citadel in the night - Salvation Army Citadel - The Citadel of Montreal (1658) A wingless bird ascended Born of ancient dreams of flight - Pieter Breugel and many other painters ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Beneath the only standing member Of a forest To the south White stone closest At twelve paces From the west side Get permission To dig out. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Anagram: Flatboat.
Lead White = Dutch painters Lead translates to Leiden (Rembrandt) Rembrandt the "Jewish" painter Rembrandt and the Pilgrims Boston = HOME and the Mayflower
Bank of Montreal Amsterdam (Rembrandt) Stock Exchange First Tulip at Hortus botanicus Leiden Semper Augustus Tulip (1636) Connections for NYC, NOLA and Augustine.
Japanse clues: ships or bicycles. Ships: Mayflower (Boston) Halve Maen (NY) They were also the first to trade with Japan. Bicycles are also a good link with Milwaukee and Harley Davidson.
William Osler (McGill) - The Ritch Doctor (Back of the book) - Named after William of Orange (Delft) William of Orange king of Scotland and Ireland also the reason for the orange in the Irish flag. Chicago with the ("Dutch") windmill.
Don Quichot tilting windmills (St Augustine) Queen Isabella Park with the Horse statue. If the Dutch puzzle is the one about ships then St Augustine is most likely the one about navy ("Green PICKET fence") The Wright Brothers also have Dutch ancestors so it not to crazy to go for the Clock Tower (Big Ben) in Canada. And the Roanoke casque is probably buried directly north of their monument.
Sorry about the presentation etc but this is just the beginning.
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Post by diceycat on Nov 8, 2024 9:15:32 GMT -5
I kind of like the the Robert Pilot connection to Lane and Rue Peel but that’s two blocks away from Drummond and can’t be seen from a dig site if that proposed dig site is by the Mont Stephen club. You could even extrapolate that his last name pilot could imply flight and being wingless but he isn’t exactly a bird , ( look up definition), nor did he ascend born of ancient dreams of flight. Everything has to be seen from the park dig area, ( that’s the way I see it). All images in the painting are placed in a north south east west relationship,( you may have to rotate the painting to get north), example north is the left side of the NOLA painting, Boston , north is the top of the painting, ( the port hole USS Constitution) ,, St.Augustine, north is the bottom of the painting. ( that’s the way I see it). etc. When we look at the Quebec painting we see the orientation being the top of the painting is north . What do we see at the north position but a French beret ( cap/ hat) on top of the individual. This is telling me that a beret part of the Van Doos uniform, 22 regiment is to the north of the dig site on top of a hill structure stone ( checked pattern of hat). I would be curious to see your dig site. Remember even Byron’s daughter said you can see all the clues from the dig site. Anyones guess if it applies to all the locations
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Post by murdock on Nov 9, 2024 20:33:33 GMT -5
My trick is to look into every park in Montreal and imo Montreal is the most symbolic puzzle so even if you're right about seeing everything from the digsite i don't believe it matters much for Montreal. I would check Parc Rembrandt but I would bet on the south side of the Clock Tower and a couple steps to the West from the bigger Tower which is exactly like the painting. Sometimes it feel like it's all some kind of a chain and probably the reason why everything gets so confusing the more you search.
Chicago Starts at: Water Tower or the Symphony Ends at: The Art Institute
Boston Starts at: Boston Public Library Ends at: USS Constitution / Tobin Bridge
Cleveland Starts at: Flag Ends at: Columns & Wall
Montreal: University, Columns, Museum, Clock Tower NYC: Skyscraper, Library, Bridge, Flag St Augustine: Planetarium, Lighthouse, Flag Milwaukee: Lighthouse, Bridge, Water Tower Houston: Planetarium, Theater, Train San Francisco: Wall, Skyscraper, Tower, Windmill, Prison Roanoke: Theater, Giant Grey Monument. New Orleans: Preservation Hall, Cathedral, Hotel Charleston: Theater, Bank, (Customs) House (Look into William Osler his son and maybe look at Fletchers Field)
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Post by diceycat on Nov 10, 2024 10:29:26 GMT -5
Way, Way too much bacon for me. Keep it Simple. None of the solved three puzzles were that complex. Less is more.
Boston doesn’t start at the library . If you want to see Thucydides ,(a Greek historian, military leader) north of Xenophon, ( a Greek military General who wrote Constitution of Lacedaimonians), then stand at the dig location aka home plate and look north you see the USS Constitution and the Historic park north of the ship . That’s why you see a large ship porthole, ( USS Constitutions Hawse hole) in the painting at the top aka North. Now just because it’s at the top of the painting it could also mean something above.
All the locations/ parks seem to have a long history and with some military ties. It could be all the locations or verse lines have a top military leader like a General association For example a Milwaukee military tie in would be the Coast Guard , ( one of the five branches of the military), and the lighthouse in Lake park where the Coast Guard was stationed. Then there is the General Wolcott monument close by. General Grant for Grant park, Boston you have the mention of two Greek Generals, Thucydides and Xenophon . In St. Augustine you havePonce de Leon a top military leader. Jackson park in NOLA General Jackson monument, Herman park Houston, General Sam Houston , Quebec City Joan of Arc top military leader or one could conclude Generals Wolfe and Montcalm, ( Remember those Japanese hints ther was one that included Mountain aka Mont as in Montcalm), BatteryPark NYC lots of military history could be JFK commander and chief or Admiral Dewey ,etc. Now I could be wrong , and it’s all speculation, but it’s Simple.
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Post by choice on Nov 10, 2024 13:35:30 GMT -5
Spiritr of Q4T suggested that Th north of X could be an alphabetic list of names. I worked on it for a while and came up with the famous Greek historians names to stay on history topic. 1) Herodotus, 2) Polybius, 3) Thucydides, 4) Xenophon. For what reason do we need this list? Lets play baseball. Abbot and Costello's who's on first! Th is on Third and X is home. Third base is north of Home. Couldn't be clearer than that! [ADDED] In Layman's terms: If Thucydides is north of Xenophon..... Lets assume Th is north of X. "If" is inserted because Th is not exactly north of X. Take five steps in the area of his direction..... Take 5 steps towards Th. "The area" is synonym of "base". A green tower of lights..... After taking 5 strides towards Th you'll be in front of the verdigris (green/gray) light tower. In the middle section, near those who pass the coliseum with metal walls..... Bleachers Face the water, your back to the stairs..... your orientation, facing Th. Feel at home..... Your location is at the intersection of home base line and the light tower. Are you going back to home-plate or just relax, you're there already (feel at home)? All the letters are here to see..... ship flags
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