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Post by xmarksdspot on Mar 24, 2020 13:10:56 GMT -5
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Post by xmarksdspot on Mar 24, 2020 15:27:21 GMT -5
I did not exactly choose White Point Garden but just followed the current trend and started following the clues there. The first few clues had pretty much been worked out but we will take a look at them anyway. "Of all the romance retold, Men of tales and tunes,Cruel and bold, Seen here, By eyes of old". I agreed with the idea that those lines did or could have represented the pirate memorial at White Point Garden. I accepted it for now and moved on to the next clue. "Stand and listen to the birds, Hear the cool clear song of water". Since I have been to the Battery many times, to me that sounded like just standing in front of the Battery rail listening to the birds and the waves crash against the battery. It could be the gazebo/band stand inside the park and the water fountain nearby but it wouldn't make any difference one way or the other. I think that clue is just helping you recognize that you are at the Battery/White Point Garden. From here the clues get more specific and lead you to the casque location.
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Post by xmarksdspot on Mar 25, 2020 10:52:06 GMT -5
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Post by xmarksdspot on Mar 25, 2020 11:00:12 GMT -5
The Twin Stairs. There is one more reason I focused on the stairs. This one may be something I created in my own mind or it may be a clue. I think Palencar often highlights things in the images that he wants you to notice. The triangles at the corner of the mouth looking object have the corners highlighted. It may have been to draw your attention to the fact that it is actually stairs or because there are 3 main locations given in the clues that form a triangle. Attachments:
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Post by xmarksdspot on Mar 25, 2020 13:37:00 GMT -5
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Post by xmarksdspot on Mar 25, 2020 16:07:13 GMT -5
"Below the bar that binds, Beside the long palm's shadow". After all the clues that lead us to the twin stairs, I can't imagine Priess would be describing any bar but the one tying the two halves of the steps rails together. So, "Below the bar that binds". I don't think Priess is telling us that is where the casque is located but is walking us through the steps to locate it. So, we are below the bar that binds, now he tells us beside the long palm's shadow. Okay so we take 3 steps to the edge of the bed toward the long palm's shadow. Now he tells us the casque is "Embedded in the sand, Waits the Fair remuneration". I'm sure the Capitol "F" means something but i'm not sure what that is at this time. The last clue "White house close at hand", could be just to let you know you are in the right place. It could also be a final shift in the casque location, pushing it toward the white house. Priess could also be telling you that the Palm tree is on the side of the white house. I've heard it said that this area has been probed but this is where the clues led me so I still think it is there. Oh, if you look, in front of the steps, painted on the road, "X" marks the spot. Attachments:
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Post by canuck on Mar 25, 2020 21:01:39 GMT -5
Exact same spot we discussed on here in December in thread started by gallenfl...logically if you use Verse 6 it leads toward those stairs. If you could point out the matching object in Image 2 in the vicinity of the stairs that would go a long way to supporting this theory. As it is, I feel the pear in Image 2 is a match to the buoyant mine across from Fort Moultrie and therefore supports Verse 5 as the Charleston verse.
You ask Verse 6 supporters about the pear and they say “oh that represents the Pearman Bridge”. Okay well the vast majority of people didn’t need to cross that bridge to get to White Point Gardens and it wasn’t a signature structure like the Chicago Water Tower, so how does that make sense...hello it doesn’t! You did however need to cross the Pearman Bridge back in the early 80s to reach Sullivan’s Island and Fort Moultrie.
The bend in the pine branch represents Coleman Boulevard which eventually becomes Highway 703 ( same number in the Kinderguardians image of the crashed car), which in turn becomes Station 22 1/2 St and is adjacent to Station 22 St ( verse 5 - 222). This uses the image, verse, and even a Fair Folk clue to bring you to Sullivan’s Island and eventually Mort Moultrie. I challenge anyone to replicate the same with Verse 6 and White Point Gardens.
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Post by xmarksdspot on Mar 26, 2020 7:46:12 GMT -5
Exact same spot we discussed on here in December in thread started by gallenfl...logically if you use Verse 6 it leads toward those stairs. If you could point out the matching object in Image 2 in the vicinity of the stairs that would go a long way to supporting this theory. As it is, I feel the pear in Image 2 is a match to the buoyant mine across from Fort Moultrie and therefore supports Verse 5 as the Charleston verse. You ask Verse 6 supporters about the pear and they say “oh that represents the Pearman Bridge”. Okay well the vast majority of people didn’t need to cross that bridge to get to White Point Gardens and it wasn’t a signature structure like the Chicago Water Tower, so how does that make sense...hello it doesn’t! You did however need to cross the Pearman Bridge back in the early 80s to reach Sullivan’s Island and Fort Moultrie. The bend in the pine branch represents Coleman Boulevard which eventually becomes Highway 703 ( same number in the Kinderguardians image of the crashed car), which in turn becomes Station 22 1/2 St and is adjacent to Station 22 St ( verse 5 - 222). This uses the image, verse, and even a Fair Folk clue to bring you to Sullivan’s Island and eventually Mort Moultrie. I challenge anyone to replicate the same with Verse 6 and White Point Gardens. Hi Canuck, I saw the thread by gallenfl after I had came up with the same location. I however couldn't figure out how he had chosen that location other than it had a bar that binds. I however got there by following/solving the clues given in the image and in the verse. What matching object are you referring to in Image2 in the vicinity of the stairs? I thought I covered everything. Like I said earlier, the pear is a perfect match for Patriots Point Golf Links and is sitting on the golf tee to make that point clear. I'm a verse 6 supporter and I think the pear has absolutely nothing to do with Pearman Bridge. I also think that Coleman Blvd and the Golf Links are shown only to give you reference to your position/location at White Point Gardens. There is no need or reason to travel to that area. If you look at the Stairs in the image and the Long Palm(daisy) to the left of the stairs, you are facing across at Mt. Pleasant. I also challenge anyone to make a more logical progressive solution that follows the clues given in as orderly a fashion as this solution does. I also strongly believe that Verse5 matches with Image9 for Philadelphia.
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Post by choice on Mar 26, 2020 15:52:45 GMT -5
Also the idea of unfolding the teeth to form the steps was mentioned on Dec 26, same thread.
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Post by xmarksdspot on Mar 26, 2020 19:04:20 GMT -5
Also the idea of unfolding the teeth to form the steps was mentioned on Dec 26, same thread. So great minds think alike, Haha. Oh, if the Fort Sumter image seems out of place, turn it upside down and it's the same shape as the twin stairs.
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Post by canuck on Mar 26, 2020 19:12:46 GMT -5
Speaking of those teeth, Charleston might be the only puzzle that I agree with the lemontiger website on the general location of the casque. He points out that the teeth resemble the windows on the Stella Maris Catholic Church, 6 on each side. He also points out that the church address is 1204 Middle Street and that the clock hands point at 12 and 04, very interesting!
BTW, xmarksdspot what object in Image 2 can be seen from the stairs? That’s how the puzzles work and you didn’t really provide an answer to this question. Are you also using the pear? If so you can’t see the stairs from the golf links...they need to be in close proximity in order to work for you. Furthermore a golf tee isn’t cylindrical, so that doesn’t help your theory either. Have you had a chance to look at the buoyant mine across from Fort Moultrie that actually has a cylinder on the underside, same as the pear in Image 2? I like that you challenge the image/verse pairings. Most agree on the cities due to the lat/long coordinates in the images. The verses on the other hand are open for debate as far as I’m concerned. Charleston verse 5 vs verse 6 seems to be the most debated. My personal opinion is that a few of the image/verse pairings accepted by the majority are wrong and it’s prevented progress on a significant portion of the puzzle.
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Post by choice on Mar 26, 2020 20:11:30 GMT -5
Pearman bridge and the branches of highways are a close match. The church not so much. 7 windows. tinyurl.com/ujp2jgfAnother way of looking at the clock hands is that they have white tips. The white point to 4 O'clock. Sullivan's Island is close to 4 too.
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Post by xmarksdspot on Mar 27, 2020 9:26:21 GMT -5
Speaking of those teeth, Charleston might be the only puzzle that I agree with the lemontiger website on the general location of the casque. He points out that the teeth resemble the windows on the Stella Maris Catholic Church, 6 on each side. He also points out that the church address is 1204 Middle Street and that the clock hands point at 12 and 04, very interesting! BTW, xmarksdspot what object in Image 2 can be seen from the stairs? That’s how the puzzles work and you didn’t really provide an answer to this question. Are you also using the pear? If so you can’t see the stairs from the golf links...they need to be in close proximity in order to work for you. Furthermore a golf tee isn’t cylindrical, so that doesn’t help your theory either. Have you had a chance to look at the buoyant mine across from Fort Moultrie that actually has a cylinder on the underside, same as the pear in Image 2? I like that you challenge the image/verse pairings. Most agree on the cities due to the lat/long coordinates in the images. The verses on the other hand are open for debate as far as I’m concerned. Charleston verse 5 vs verse 6 seems to be the most debated. My personal opinion is that a few of the image/verse pairings accepted by the majority are wrong and it’s prevented progress on a significant portion of the puzzle. Hi canuck, what you can see from the stairs that's in the image, The Long Palm, Fort Sumter, Mt. Pleasant, And The Charleston Harbor. What can be seen from the stairs that's in the verses, The Pirate's Memorial, The Battery, The Maine Capstan, The Stairs, The Bar That Binds, The Long Palm's Shadow, The White House, and most importantly, The Scene Where Law Defended Between Two Arms Extended. Is that a good enough answer? The golf links are probably visible from the stairs because the bottom end is on the water, but not the other way around.The pear/golf links although possible visible is meaningless to me except as a clue to the city/area and a reference marker on the micromap. Take another look at the golf tee under the pear and you'll see that it has a tapering curve shape exactly like a real golf tee. I believe "choice" mentioned the white tips on the clock hands and yes that is a strong clue for White Point Garden. The clock hands are also the exact angles of the stairs. canuck, Is your complete solve on the forum where I can take a look at it?
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Post by xmarksdspot on Mar 27, 2020 10:56:00 GMT -5
Hi Guys, I can give you a heads up on line two of Verse5. I worked on that using verse 5 for Philadelphia. I believe you are dealing with 3 individual numbers, 2, 20, and 2. It can't be 222 or it would be written two hundred twenty-two. It can't be 2 22 or it would be written two twenty-two. So, that only leaves it being three individual numbers.
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Post by choice on Mar 27, 2020 11:06:22 GMT -5
So, back to Charleston, the dancers wings' white edges look like sandy beaches. The layout may match Sullivan's and Morris Islands beaches. tinyurl.com/uoozzcw
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