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Post by dejoka on Jul 16, 2020 21:36:37 GMT -5
Yep, amazing isn't it, that's the size I figured too, 10" x 10". I assume f's philosophy on the matter was, aim small, miss small. I don't believe the precise location size being the same size as "the perfect treasure chest" was coincidental. Here's an interesting fact and confirmation concerning the physical Blaze's GPS coordinates. The sum of all the lat. and long. numbers: dd, mm, ss, and xx equals 360. I did not concoct this solution or the 100th of a second latitude GPS coordinates, f gave us a blazed trail with confirmations, from beginning to end, I just followed his path precisely. You mean "the finder followed the path precisely", you aren't the finder, nor is anyone posting here. Nothing any of us say can be stated as "fact" because without the chest, none of us can claim to know for sure how to solve the poem. That is a fact.
You have a bad habit of putting words in my mouth and ignoring what I said. I said I followed f's path precisely and in the end I found the precise coordinates with confirmation throughout. I assume the finder did the same. |
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Post by pb123 on Jul 16, 2020 22:43:47 GMT -5
While the finder does risk getting his thunder stolen by a second solver if he waits too long to write his screenplay or get his TTOTC documentary/miniseries filmed, there may be more afoot. Here are just 3 possibilities that come to my mind: 1. He left something for the second finder, thus he's remaining silent 2. He solved it first, won the prize, doesn't care about monetizing the solution or find story, and thus doesn't care who comes in second or if they reveal their solution 3. He's confident that the searcher community is so far off-track that there's no hurry to tell his story I still haven't come up with a satisfactory explanation for why Forrest congratulated everyone ELSE for participating, but gave no public kudos whatsoever to the finder for (apparently) being the first to solve what hundreds of thousands of others could not for over 9 years. That sounds very uncharacteristic of Forrest, making me question what transpired for him to not just downplay the finder's achievement, but ignore it altogether. He acknowledged him by thanking all the people in the chase. Not directly, of course, but was part of it: The Thrill of the Chase. |
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 17, 2020 0:09:30 GMT -5
Well, if *I* had been the finder, I would consider it a slam to have been lumped in with all the also-rans if that short public statement was going to be the full extent of the "congratulations." It's at least as formidable an achievement to solve a puzzle like this as it was to create it. Forrest didn't acknowledge that achievement at all. Why not?
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Post by marek on Jul 17, 2020 1:26:27 GMT -5
Well, if *I* had been the finder, I would consider it a slam to have been lumped in with all the also-rans if that short public statement was going to be the full extent of the "congratulations." It's at least as formidable an achievement to solve a puzzle like this as it was to create it. Forrest didn't acknowledge that achievement at all. Why not? Exactly. If such words come frome someone other than Forrest, you might interpret these words differently. But Forrests words have always been very thought-out and exactly in the formulation. I am very certain that he would have phrased his words differently, if he had appreciated the finders performance. Of course, thats just IMO. But during the 6 years of my involvement in this chase, I have read a lot from Forrest. Its very unlikely, that the choice of his words happens to be such, that he doesnt explicitly congratulate the finder. There is a reason for that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 9:35:41 GMT -5
You mean "the finder followed the path precisely", you aren't the finder, nor is anyone posting here. Nothing any of us say can be stated as "fact" because without the chest, none of us can claim to know for sure how to solve the poem. That is a fact.
You have a bad habit of putting words in my mouth and ignoring what I said. I said I followed f's path precisely and in the end I found the precise coordinates with confirmation throughout. I assume the finder did the same.
I have no bad habit of doing any such thing. Are you trying to say that only you (and the finder) are the ones who used the poem to be lead to a precise location? I completely disagree, and unlike what you did, I explained (and even did a video) to prove my point. If you have no intentions of explaining your solve, why continue to make it look like you did what nobody else did? Seems condescending to me. Instead of trying to make a mystery out of things (like you did with your solve post), just lay it out there. No need to be ashamed, people will laugh, call you names, all kinds of things (trust me on this, I hope you have thick skin because people are rough).
Bottom line - you have no idea what the real solution was. I don't, nobody does, except Forrest and the finder. The only goal (for me anyway) is to see if I wasted my time for six years, then I know better to never do this thing again  EDIT: Let me make this perfectly clear. Dejoka, I have no ill feelings towards you at all, in fact it's the opposite! I have even indicated that your solve sounded interesting, more than once in your thread. The only thing I don't understand is why not just post the solve then? Many people posted theirs... What is the point of claiming how "precise" the solution was if you never have any intention of backing it up by explaining the solve? I uderstand why people were secretive and did such things in the past (i.e. never post anything direct, just slip out hints) because it wasn't found, but the chase is OVER now. The only two people who have a secret are FF and the finder, not us. Some moved on, some posted solves, but some still try to be secretive as if they know something everyone else is not aware of - and even that is fine, IF they intend to back it up with a sovle. I explained how I got to X, I even showed how the poem confirmed it. I am waiting for you to do the same, if you can't then why discuss it at all? |
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Post by pb123 on Jul 17, 2020 10:14:03 GMT -5
"Well, if *I* had been the finder, I would consider it a slam to have been lumped in with all the also-rans if that short public statement was going to be the full extent of the "congratulations." It's at least as formidable an achievement to solve a puzzle like this as it was to create it. Forrest didn't acknowledge that achievement at all. Why not?"
Agreed, zaphod. I was just nitpicking. It is very odd. I also don't think we've heard the last of it.
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Post by indigojones on Jul 17, 2020 10:47:35 GMT -5
What if the solution is already out there in the forums someplace? Will you believe it if you actually get to see it? Are you assuming that it is going to be spectacular in some way?
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Post by dejoka on Jul 17, 2020 11:29:54 GMT -5
You have a bad habit of putting words in my mouth and ignoring what I said. I said I followed f's path precisely and in the end I found the precise coordinates with confirmation throughout. I assume the finder did the same.
I have no bad habit of doing any such thing. Are you trying to say that only you (and the finder) are the ones who used the poem to be lead to a precise location? I completely disagree, and unlike what you did, I explained (and even did a video) to prove my point. If you have no intentions of explaining your solve, why continue to make it look like you did what nobody else did? Seems condescending to me. Instead of trying to make a mystery out of things (like you did with your solve post), just lay it out there. No need to be ashamed, people will laugh, call you names, all kinds of things (trust me on this, I hope you have thick skin because people are rough).
Bottom line - you have no idea what the real solution was. I don't, nobody does, except Forrest and the finder. The only goal (for me anyway) is to see if I wasted my time for six years, then I know better to never do this thing again EDIT: Let me make this perfectly clear. Dejoka, I have no ill feelings towards you at all, in fact it's the opposite! I have even indicated that your solve sounded interesting, more than once in your thread. The only thing I don't understand is why not just post the solve then? Many people posted theirs... What is the point of claiming how "precise" the solution was if you never have any intention of backing it up by explaining the solve? I uderstand why people were secretive and did such things in the past (i.e. never post anything direct, just slip out hints) because it wasn't found, but the chase is OVER now. The only two people who have a secret are FF and the finder, not us. Some moved on, some posted solves, but some still try to be secretive as if they know something everyone else is not aware of - and even that is fine, IF they intend to back it up with a sovle. I explained how I got to X, I even showed how the poem confirmed it. I am waiting for you to do the same, if you can't then why discuss it at all? It appears I’m in the process of being banned here, so this is probably my last post. “They never knew that it was the chase they sought and not the quarry.” I believe the solution is potentially worth 10x the treasure, it truly is that amazing. If by some small, small chance the finder actually did just stumble upon it, then 2nd place might mean something. So until the finder’s solution is released I’ll have to keep quiet. You must’ve missed my gauntlet post where I challenged the finder to announce the solution. Like I said in that post, I’ll be content, right or wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 16:01:39 GMT -5
dejoka, your post is interesting and probably worth the gauntlet punishment if the trophy is truly of the value you propose. Without a doubt, I can definitely see why you would challenge the finder for their solve.
But try not to take it too hard, it's not worth the pain. Believe me, this comes from a girl who spent her beginning years of school with the nickname "Tho Races" or something like that. I just remember this one girl, who didn't like me, came up with the name. Then everyone started calling me it. Just to let you know, my middle name is "Thou" ( after my grandma's last name) and I was an active kid, always in a hurry, so she gave me the tag. I just remember I was always being chased. I can still remember it like yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 17:11:12 GMT -5
I have no bad habit of doing any such thing. Are you trying to say that only you (and the finder) are the ones who used the poem to be lead to a precise location? I completely disagree, and unlike what you did, I explained (and even did a video) to prove my point. If you have no intentions of explaining your solve, why continue to make it look like you did what nobody else did? Seems condescending to me. Instead of trying to make a mystery out of things (like you did with your solve post), just lay it out there. No need to be ashamed, people will laugh, call you names, all kinds of things (trust me on this, I hope you have thick skin because people are rough).
Bottom line - you have no idea what the real solution was. I don't, nobody does, except Forrest and the finder. The only goal (for me anyway) is to see if I wasted my time for six years, then I know better to never do this thing again EDIT: Let me make this perfectly clear. Dejoka, I have no ill feelings towards you at all, in fact it's the opposite! I have even indicated that your solve sounded interesting, more than once in your thread. The only thing I don't understand is why not just post the solve then? Many people posted theirs... What is the point of claiming how "precise" the solution was if you never have any intention of backing it up by explaining the solve? I uderstand why people were secretive and did such things in the past (i.e. never post anything direct, just slip out hints) because it wasn't found, but the chase is OVER now. The only two people who have a secret are FF and the finder, not us. Some moved on, some posted solves, but some still try to be secretive as if they know something everyone else is not aware of - and even that is fine, IF they intend to back it up with a sovle. I explained how I got to X, I even showed how the poem confirmed it. I am waiting for you to do the same, if you can't then why discuss it at all? It appears I’m in the process of being banned here, so this is probably my last post. “They never knew that it was the chase they sought and not the quarry.” I believe the solution is potentially worth 10x the treasure, it truly is that amazing. If by some small, small chance the finder actually did just stumble upon it, then 2nd place might mean something. So until the finder’s solution is released I’ll have to keep quiet. You must’ve missed my gauntlet post where I challenged the finder to announce the solution. Like I said in that post, I’ll be content, right or wrong.
Forrest said "the poem in my book led him to the precise spot", so I don't think they stumbled on it unless Forrest lied.
I think "the title" is worth 10X (minimum) the value of the chest. IMO, it was one of the two things on the top that FF said he never told anyone about.
I also believe that technically there is only one real solution, but the poem was also meant to teach people a lesson of sorts. Lets just say everyone can be a winner of treasure regardless of their solution, just look quickly down and see yourself having earned a treasure. Forrest's treasure OTOH is far more valuable, and to get it you need the title. IOW, the poem leads you to "a treasure" as described in the book, but that is not the treasure the finder is getting. Won't elaborate more other than to say I am almost convinced that there is a way that Forrest can be 100% sure that more than one person can not possibly come up with the real solution. He is about to make a fool out of everyone who tried to sue and/or claim their solve was used. In the process, he has also cemented his legacy. <- That should drive people crazy trying to figure out, it did to me.
PS: I don't see why they'd ban you here, you have not harassed or done anything crazy to someone (far as I can see). But trust me, I know all about being banned, I am banned everywhere! But these days, there is no point in me doing something that might get me banned because the chase is over, so why stress out over silly things? Right now, I am taking advantage of a few REAL nice opportunities that presented themseleves to me as a direct result of my time spent on the chase even though I don't claim to be the finder. Hard work, lack of greed, and trying to be helpful for years has given me a karma boost like no other!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 17:26:53 GMT -5
dejoka, your post is interesting and probably worth the gauntlet punishment if the trophy is truly of the value you propose. Without a doubt, I can definitely see why you would challenge the finder for their solve. But try not to take it too hard, it's not worth the pain. Believe me, this comes from a girl who spent her beginning years of school with the nickname "Tho Races" or something like that. I just remember this one girl, who didn't like me, came up with the name. Then everyone started calling me it. Just to let you know, my middle name is "Thou" ( after my grandma's last name) and I was an active kid, always in a hurry, so she gave me the tag. I just remember I was always being chased. I can still remember it like yesterday. Never let a bully get you down! You can do ANYTHING in life that you desire, and nobody can do anything to prevent it. Reach for the sky, I did! Even the lack of a college degree can not stop you!
Then, after that, also watch this movie: “The Way” (2010) with Martin Sheen
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 20:57:25 GMT -5
dejoka, your post is interesting and probably worth the gauntlet punishment if the trophy is truly of the value you propose. Without a doubt, I can definitely see why you would challenge the finder for their solve. But try not to take it too hard, it's not worth the pain. Believe me, this comes from a girl who spent her beginning years of school with the nickname "Tho Races" or something like that. I just remember this one girl, who didn't like me, came up with the name. Then everyone started calling me it. Just to let you know, my middle name is "Thou" ( after my grandma's last name) and I was an active kid, always in a hurry, so she gave me the tag. I just remember I was always being chased. I can still remember it like yesterday. Never let a bully get you down! You can do ANYTHING in life that you desire, and nobody can do anything to prevent it. Reach for the sky, I did! Even the lack of a college degree can not stop you!
Then, after that, also watch this movie: “The Way” (2010) with Martin Sheen
Thanks for the videos ogitsumyw.. Funny you should send a video about imagination, we're planning a trip to a place called Imagination Station in about 2 weeks. Had to scrounge enough money for the trip, but now that we got it, we can't wait! Of course with the Covid thing still going strong, we might be delayed. But hey, as long as we still have hopes and dreams, we'll find the way somehow. P.S. Even with being Busted Flat in Baton Rouge, it won't stop us... and mostly because we don't have to travel through Baton Rouge (lol). Thanks for your advice! We're looking forward to seeing the movie too! |
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Post by marek on Jul 18, 2020 4:52:56 GMT -5
What if the solution is already out there in the forums someplace? Will you believe it if you actually get to see it? Are you assuming that it is going to be spectacular in some way? indigo I am considering this too. But I dont understand why nobody else except the finder recognized that this is probably the correct solution. Maybe its because everybody (including me) is confident, that his own solve is probably on the right track. And therefore we tend to ignore solving efforts of others. If the finder had a similar, but incomplete solve, then maybe he could have thought about giving this better ending solution from a forum a try. If Forrest knows that the finder has copied the solution, then the correct solution has been published somewhere, where Forrest is a frequent visitor. At least this would explain why he never congratulated him. IMO, the sentence "the poem in my book led him to the precise spot" only confirms that the finder didnt stumbled over the chest coincidental. If he had copied the solve from someone else, the poem in Forrests book would have led the finder to the precise spot too. |
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Post by miracleman on Jul 18, 2020 9:09:29 GMT -5
I don’t think anything near a correct AND complete solution has ever been posted on the blogs. I believe most solutions can be shot down using a few choice words from Forrest - specialized knowledge, no shortcuts, need to nail down correct WWWH, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 12:41:08 GMT -5
I don’t think anything near a correct AND complete solution has ever been posted on the blogs. I believe most solutions can be shot down using a few choice words from Forrest - specialized knowledge, no shortcuts, need to nail down correct WWWH, etc.
I believe the opposite - most solves I see are all guessing and simply fumbling around thermals and places like Madison Junction. The poem requires work to solve, and none of the clues work until solved. If it was easy, it would have been found days after he hid it. Specialized knowledge is a joke... Oh, its impossible to nail down WWWH until you know what it means, it does not connect to ANY map - that is where I think everyone goes wrong. "Oh, this is a place where 2 warm rivers halt and form the Madison , oh it MUST be wwwh" is probably the lamest solution I have ever seen. Same with Aqua Fria... Those are newbie thoughts.
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