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Post by luiscatala on Jul 12, 2020 4:47:44 GMT -5
I can understand that FF does not give the solution to the poem, what I do not understand is that he does not say the reasons for not giving it.
Maybe it's because I think there are some rights to make a treasure hunt movie. Giving the solution of the poem now would be a spoiler.
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Post by omarandruby on Jul 12, 2020 10:09:43 GMT -5
Lord knows I had plenty of Youtube ideas once I snagged the treasure. Yeah, I was planning on remaining anonymous as well.
I was thinking of quick videos featuring the coins, gems & chest in a stop-action "SOUTH PARK" cartoonist fashion. I figured I'd poke fun at a few notable searchers on Dal's blog, maybe using their avatar etc...
Why not create more interest in the loot, start some viral videos, drive up the auction amount? Simply selling an AMAZON self published book, field-guide, brochure or even coloring book could've generated 6 figures $$$
Something tells me that the finder is mature like Fenn, who possibly doesn't need the riches. As long as you don't sell off the loot, the TAX MAN can't torment you. I have a theory who the finder could be. Anybody remember PANORAMIO?
Google Earth allowed folks to post their vacation/travel photos. Well it was very popular, maybe too much so because Google had to take it down. Anyway I studied those Panoramio photos over the years and one hiker stood out, I mean this dude had been everywhere it seems. Probably shouldn't print his name. I don't remember if he had a photography sideline, but I do remember he had a simple website of his own.
If this is the GUY I am totally jealous of all of the places he's been. Who knows, maybe he's the 'pay it forward' type that WOULD keep the chase going in some fashion.
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Post by dejoka on Jul 15, 2020 17:34:53 GMT -5
f said the finder was shy, perhaps the finder of the treasure was shy of the solution and maybe the solution is yet to be discovered.
f did say that there is "..the promise of other discoveries."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 19:15:08 GMT -5
I can understand that FF does not give the solution to the poem, what I do not understand is that he does not say the reasons for not giving it.
Sure he does, and he did a million times. He has always said that "it will be up to the finder". So unless the finder wants to reveal it, we may never know. The finder owes us nothing.
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Post by dejoka on Jul 15, 2020 21:00:13 GMT -5
I can understand that FF does not give the solution to the poem, what I do not understand is that he does not say the reasons for not giving it. Sure he does, and he did a million times. He has always said that "it will be up to the finder". So unless the finder wants to reveal it, we may never know. The finder owes us nothing.
...and we owe the finder nothing. The beauty of the Chase is that you don't need the treasure to prove the solution correct. f thought of everything. So the first to publish the solution will own it, treasure be damned. |
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 15, 2020 21:33:47 GMT -5
While the finder does risk getting his thunder stolen by a second solver if he waits too long to write his screenplay or get his TTOTC documentary/miniseries filmed, there may be more afoot. Here are just 3 possibilities that come to my mind:
1. He left something for the second finder, thus he's remaining silent
2. He solved it first, won the prize, doesn't care about monetizing the solution or find story, and thus doesn't care who comes in second or if they reveal their solution
3. He's confident that the searcher community is so far off-track that there's no hurry to tell his story
I still haven't come up with a satisfactory explanation for why Forrest congratulated everyone ELSE for participating, but gave no public kudos whatsoever to the finder for (apparently) being the first to solve what hundreds of thousands of others could not for over 9 years. That sounds very uncharacteristic of Forrest, making me question what transpired for him to not just downplay the finder's achievement, but ignore it altogether.
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Post by miracleman on Jul 16, 2020 6:33:18 GMT -5
I still haven't come up with a satisfactory explanation for why Forrest congratulated everyone ELSE for participating, but gave no public kudos whatsoever to the finder for (apparently) being the first to solve what hundreds of thousands of others could not for over 9 years. That sounds very uncharacteristic of Forrest, making me question what transpired for him to not just downplay the finder's achievement, but ignore it altogether. Hey Zap, interesting take on this. Forrest did say “the poem in my book led him to the precise spot” - taking your view, it could sound more like Forrest is highlighting the poem’s role in the find, rather than highlighting the searchers solution of the poem. But it could also just be a more poetic way of saying the finder solved the poem. Wasn’t there language in the court case that stated the clues had been solved with hints from the book leading to the discovery of the chest? I thought I had read that recently. What other reason could there be for not highlighting the solvers solution? Maybe it wasn’t a complete solve or somehow the finder found a shortcut? Ultimately, regardless of the method, anyone who is actively searching and finds it could be said to have had the poem lead them to the precise spot. Just maybe not in the way Forrest had intended. |
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Post by goldilocks on Jul 16, 2020 6:48:49 GMT -5
I still haven't come up with a satisfactory explanation for why Forrest congratulated everyone ELSE for participating, but gave no public kudos whatsoever to the finder for (apparently) being the first to solve what hundreds of thousands of others could not for over 9 years. That sounds very uncharacteristic of Forrest, making me question what transpired for him to not just downplay the finder's achievement, but ignore it altogether. Hey Zap, interesting take on this. Forrest did say “the poem in my book led him to the precise spot” - taking your view, it could sound more like Forrest is highlighting the poem’s role in the find, rather than highlighting the searchers solution of the poem. But it could also just be a more poetic way of saying the finder solved the poem. Wasn’t there language in the court case that stated the clues had been solved with hints from the book leading to the discovery of the chest? I thought I had read that recently. What other reason could there be for not highlighting the solvers solution? Maybe it wasn’t a complete solve or somehow the finder found a shortcut? Ultimately, regardless of the method, anyone who is actively searching and finds it could be said to have had the poem lead them to the precise spot. Just maybe not in the way Forrest had intended. "...he had used the clues in the poem and hints in the Memoir to locate and find the Chest." www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.azd.1241875/gov.uscourts.azd.1241875.15.1.pdf |
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Post by marek on Jul 16, 2020 7:42:46 GMT -5
While the finder does risk getting his thunder stolen by a second solver if he waits too long to write his screenplay or get his TTOTC documentary/miniseries filmed, there may be more afoot. Here are just 3 possibilities that come to my mind: 1. He left something for the second finder, thus he's remaining silent 2. He solved it first, won the prize, doesn't care about monetizing the solution or find story, and thus doesn't care who comes in second or if they reveal their solution 3. He's confident that the searcher community is so far off-track that there's no hurry to tell his story I still haven't come up with a satisfactory explanation for why Forrest congratulated everyone ELSE for participating, but gave no public kudos whatsoever to the finder for (apparently) being the first to solve what hundreds of thousands of others could not for over 9 years. That sounds very uncharacteristic of Forrest, making me question what transpired for him to not just downplay the finder's achievement, but ignore it altogether. For your first possibility, I guess it would make sense to tell the searching community that something has been left for the second finder. This information doesn't endanger the anonymity of the finder, nor would it be a risk to point out the location. Therefore, I don't see the point of not telling the searchers that something has been left. For your third possibility, I guess you can never know how far off-track the whole searcher community is. There is ever the possibility that somebody is about to solve the poem shortly. But your second possibility sounds pretty convincing to me. I also agree that it's very strange that Forrest put it in such a way, that it immediately becomes clear that he does not congratulate the finder. First I have thought that the congratulations to the finder will come in a later statement of Forrest. But I guess there comes nothing more. Until recently, I thought all those "the finder is not the solver" theories are nonsense. But in the meanwhile, I am not that confident anymore. If this is true, then Forrest must know that the finder has copied the solution. IMO, thats only possible if the correct solution has been published somewhere, where Forrest is a frequent visitor. But then, I dont understand why only the finder recognized that this was the correct solution. One possibility is maybe that the finder had solved some clues until 2018. Forrest mentioned that 2018 was the last time, he had communicated with the finder. Maybe also the "gut feeling" comment from 2018 referred to this. If the correct solution had been published somewhere recently, this "gut feeling" seeker could have recognized it, and he retrieved the chest. This all sounds pretty strange, and I dont know what to think of my attempts to explain. I just try to find explanations. Maybe I should read through all the published solutions since autumn 2019 again. |
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Post by marek on Jul 16, 2020 7:51:17 GMT -5
Hey Zap, interesting take on this. Forrest did say “the poem in my book led him to the precise spot” - taking your view, it could sound more like Forrest is highlighting the poem’s role in the find, rather than highlighting the searchers solution of the poem. But it could also just be a more poetic way of saying the finder solved the poem. Wasn’t there language in the court case that stated the clues had been solved with hints from the book leading to the discovery of the chest? I thought I had read that recently. What other reason could there be for not highlighting the solvers solution? Maybe it wasn’t a complete solve or somehow the finder found a shortcut? Ultimately, regardless of the method, anyone who is actively searching and finds it could be said to have had the poem lead them to the precise spot. Just maybe not in the way Forrest had intended. "...he had used the clues in the poem and hints in the Memoir to locate and find the Chest." www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.azd.1241875/gov.uscourts.azd.1241875.15.1.pdfThis is interesting and pretty obviously. Still I guess its strange that Forrest has never congratulated the finder. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 9:23:29 GMT -5
Sure he does, and he did a million times. He has always said that "it will be up to the finder". So unless the finder wants to reveal it, we may never know. The finder owes us nothing.
...and we owe the finder nothing. The beauty of the Chase is that you don't need the treasure to prove the solution correct. f thought of everything. So the first to publish the solution will own it, treasure be damned. Thats news to me since he has always said you will not know if your solve is correct unless you get the chest. Otherwise, people would simply email solutions until he said "found".
And how would this have worked if he was dead? 20 years from now somone posts the correct solve, Forrest awakens from the dead, reads the solve, and then rewards the guy? Remember, unless he is a liar, nobody knows where the treasure is or the solution, so that would include the law firm managing his estate.
Not sure why you guys seem entitled to something. You knew the rules since day one.
One thing I do enjoy is reading the solves people are posting, I liked your solve and was interesting in seeing the rest, but you never came through. Not sure why, its well beyond 6/6/2020.
Know what would be interesting? Someone posts a solve after 6/6/2020, the finder then sues them for hacking his computer. LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 9:33:51 GMT -5
BTW - Publishing your solve before the finder does means absolutely NOTHING. You don't have the chest. You can sue but the court would laugh at you and you'd lose.
The only reason to post a solve is so that you can determine how close you might have been. If you are 600 miles off, never hunt again, if you were at the right spot, too bad you didn't go get it. Oh well, I'd like to see it too, but I am fine and understand why we may never know.
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Post by goldwatch on Jul 16, 2020 12:15:23 GMT -5
...and we owe the finder nothing. The beauty of the Chase is that you don't need the treasure to prove the solution correct. f thought of everything. So the first to publish the solution will own it, treasure be damned. Thats news to me since he has always said you will not know if your solve is correct unless you get the chest. Otherwise, people would simply email solutions until he said "found".
And how would this have worked if he was dead? 20 years from now somone posts the correct solve, Forrest awakens from the dead, reads the solve, and then rewards the guy? Remember, unless he is a liar, nobody knows where the treasure is or the solution, so that would include the law firm managing his estate.
Not sure why you guys seem entitled to something. You knew the rules since day one.
One thing I do enjoy is reading the solves people are posting, I liked your solve and was interesting in seeing the rest, but you never came through. Not sure why, its well beyond 6/6/2020.
Know what would be interesting? Someone posts a solve after 6/6/2020, the finder then sues them for hacking his computer. LOL
Haha, that would seem to fit in this story. But even the Finder doesn't have any rights to another's solve (actual hacking aside). I don't know how anyone will know for sure that any solve is the "correct solve" without Forrest saying so. The Finder can't if he wants to remain hidden. Forrest won't say anything, as he's said. We'll never know for sure. However, I think it will probably come out eventually, as Forrest said. If it's from the Finder and with proof that he is the Finder, that's the only way we'll be sure. If it's from someone else who had the Poem solved, and simply lost the Chase, then we may speculate but won't be sure if it's correct. Quite a story, this Thrill of the Chase. |
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Post by annie on Jul 16, 2020 12:23:13 GMT -5
Didn’t Forrest once say something like the path for the person who solves it will be a sure one or be more ‘confident’ But harder for those who had not solved all the clues.
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Post by dejoka on Jul 16, 2020 12:27:20 GMT -5
...and we owe the finder nothing. The beauty of the Chase is that you don't need the treasure to prove the solution correct. f thought of everything. So the first to publish the solution will own it, treasure be damned. Thats news to me since he has always said you will not know if your solve is correct unless you get the chest. Otherwise, people would simply email solutions until he said "found". And how would this have worked if he was dead? 20 years from now somone posts the correct solve, Forrest awakens from the dead, reads the solve, and then rewards the guy? Remember, unless he is a liar, nobody knows where the treasure is or the solution, so that would include the law firm managing his estate. Not sure why you guys seem entitled to something. You knew the rules since day one.
One thing I do enjoy is reading the solves people are posting, I liked your solve and was interesting in seeing the rest, but you never came through. Not sure why, its well beyond 6/6/2020.
Know what would be interesting? Someone posts a solve after 6/6/2020, the finder then sues them for hacking his computer. LOL
I'm not sure where you think I said that I was entitled to something. What I am saying is, no one owns the solution to the Chase until it is published and that includes me, you, f, the finder and everyone else. |
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