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Post by diceycat on Oct 24, 2021 9:58:55 GMT -5
I thought one was not to use the enhanced version for reference. First off that could be just an smudge that when enhanced looks like some letters. You would have to see the original painting since I don’t see it in any online images that come directly from the book. Can you even see it in an original copy of the book. To equate the numbers 5 and 6 to presidents ? Well anything is possible . It just might mean look for a president or could just be that he likes to put his initials in different spots in the paintings or maybe a red herring.A lot of artists sign their work in the lower right hand corner of a painting. I don’t think he would bury a clue that deep and small and ambiguous into the art work. I still believe thatGGP is the park. Nothing shows in the enlarged image of the original print.
The arms in the painting cross over at the top end of the painting Closer to the G h
You even have the bump on the left side bottom of the tree match perfectly to the bump in the tree in the painting
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Post by choice on Oct 24, 2021 12:29:24 GMT -5
I posted pictures of the original paintings for the ones available on the internet here on this forum somewhere! Here're the pictures of those spots:
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Post by choice on Oct 24, 2021 12:49:47 GMT -5
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Post by choice on Oct 24, 2021 15:44:32 GMT -5
There're better scans than you're using. Here's the area from toilettreasures.com/ scan of the original 82 book. You can see better resolution. However lots of detail been lost because of the printing resolution of the day.
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Post by patrick on Oct 24, 2021 16:28:23 GMT -5
That hour hand looks interesting too. You don't see that detail in most images.
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Post by diceycat on Oct 24, 2021 19:13:57 GMT -5
I took my image from the PB works site . I’m assuming one does not have to go and look for clues that small to figure out the location of the casque. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that JJP put his initials there. If you look hard enough you might find his initials hidden in the other paintings,maybe. The problem I have is that your jumping from the number 6 plus the JJP initials in the 5 o’clock position to the 6th president of the USA because 5 means Quintus in Latin .Especially when 6 follows 5 in every clock. When I do a painting I also sometimes hide my name in the image as well. The Old Masters would even incorporate there own faces in some of their paintings Nobody gets all the clues correct.You only need enough to get you to the treasure ground. Keep it Simple. Look for a stone wall that has a door and the air smells sweet when you are standing by the door not sweet as in taste. I would take that description as literal, use a dictionary for meanings to sweet. I would be going to each and every door in GGP that fits that description and stand there and look around, can you see any of the other clues? Can you see Education and Justice from that doorway? Doesn’t have to be a building, could be a name on a street sign. The problem is the 40 years of changes I’m surprised that no one figured out Boston sooner, again you have all the changes over the years but I think there were still enough clues for that park.
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Post by choice on Oct 24, 2021 20:07:30 GMT -5
Way to go keeping it simple! I interpret the line "The air smells sweet" as sweet smell of success; as in you're at the dig location. Giant pole, giant step; I take it as a flag pole or some other type of pole next to a step planter perhaps. This may be supported by the dragons nose distorting the border by pushing it up like a step. A nautical hat covers the dragon's nose. This may point to a famous fisherman (wharf) or a Navyman like Stockton. The two mirrored D's at the bottom that look like two tunnel entrance/exit, I take that as "fold" along that line so D's are covering eachother. This way the symbols on opposing sides come together. Cross in a box (church) and up/down sign may point to top of a church, cross. Square and triangle is pyramid. 3 circles is a clover/club. Put them together and you get Ace of club or Transamerica Pyramid and an orthodox cross that looks like club symbol of playing card. A on the dress look like bridge tower slightly in an angle. X across it would be a feature of the bridge tower similar to Bay bridge. This excludes GG bridge.
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Post by diceycat on Oct 25, 2021 8:16:44 GMT -5
First off one has to make the assumptions that all casques are buried in a park and that park boarders some large body of water. If not then good luck. Certainly you could say it’s the sweet smell of success, like Spreckels Mansion let’s say, or by definition it also means stinks. Remember he is talking about the air. Not a feeling one gets or else he might reword the line as sweet smell of success at the stone wall door. Read the line literally.You may have to open a dictionary occasionally. Also I have a problem when people read the lines out of order. When you apply the line to the painting what you see is the cap covering the dragons nose. Usually one covers the nose because the air is unpleasant. It’s difficult to portray smell of success, maybe a large successful institution,or a university degree, but again there is no image of that in the painting unless you ascribe the upper window to Spreckels mansion. I think giant step is a metric that one uses to get to the final spot like X number of paces from the west side or counting the bricks from left to right etc. In this case it’s the last hint to get you to the precise spot in the park. So that “giant pole” better be inside the park or else your “barking “ up the wrong tree. That’s the way I see it. Try to figure out the location of the treasure ground using the verse and Japanese hints only ,without looking at the painting. Remember BP was targeting the younger generation at the time. They probably had the World book encyclopedia, a large Webster’s dictionary, road maps and definitely a library at their disposal . The big obstacle to getting to the correct final spot maybe that you need BOTG . Things look different and at different times of the year. Well I’m all for listening to other theories.
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Post by diceycat on Sept 17, 2022 20:30:39 GMT -5
Just another bit concerning the writing made by the dragons tail , might lead you to the gem ( centre point in painting is a bit north and east of the cap on the nose ( the washroom).
Just a bit more for a possible precise dig spot. If we assume the clock to be a compass and the JJP initials are at 5 O’clock ( 150 degrees) then maybe use that as a directional bearing from the tree
Another possibility ( green line)
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Post by kwendall on Aug 15, 2023 17:36:39 GMT -5
Not sure if anyone else noticed, but the contour of the Spreckles Lake matches the contour of the dragon here in the image, and the land island seems to be circled by the dragon tail.
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Post by diceycat on Aug 16, 2023 7:27:35 GMT -5
It all sounds reasonable to me. Now all you need is for someone to probe the area.
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Post by choice on Aug 16, 2023 17:26:14 GMT -5
Spreckles Lake has more resemblance to the blue blob than the dragon. What is the Chinese connection to the lake? Sure, there are dragons at the senior center but is that enough? What is the "sounds from the sky"? I don't think the Sutro Tower is visible from that side of the park. Why did he describe sound waves as sounds from the sky and not sounds in the air? BTW there used to be a tree in that "island" in early 80's. If you use the blue blob as model then the bottom of the blob would be the area of kwendall's interest. The top would point to the senior center.
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Post by jon on Aug 16, 2023 18:48:46 GMT -5
Spreckles Lake has more resemblance to the blue blob than the dragon. What is the Chinese connection to the lake? Sure, there are dragons at the senior center but is that enough? What is the "sounds from the sky"? I don't think the Sutro Tower is visible from that side of the park. Why did he describe sound waves as sounds from the sky and not sounds in the air? BTW there used to be a tree in that "island" in early 80's. If you use the blue blob as model then the bottom of the blob would be the area of kwendall's interest. The top would point to the senior center.
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Post by diceycat on Aug 17, 2023 8:53:22 GMT -5
Spreckles Lake has more resemblance to the blue blob than the dragon. What is the Chinese connection to the lake? Sure, there are dragons at the senior center but is that enough? What is the "sounds from the sky"? I don't think the Sutro Tower is visible from that side of the park. Why did he describe sound waves as sounds from the sky and not sounds in the air? BTW there used to be a tree in that "island" in early 80's. If you use the blue blob as model then the bottom of the blob would be the area of kwendall's interest. The top would point to the senior center. To me the blue blob represents a duck or a seagull that stands on that concrete turtle island. You have the white dot near the end of the tail represents the “Pearl” aka the concrete turtle island. Since the colour of the bird is blue it also ties in with water. The location of the bird is north of the JFK image and west of the George Washington image ,( George Washington high school) which coincides with the location of the concrete turtle. The Chinese connection is the name of the park, “Golden Gate”, not the lake itself. The words Golden Gate can be found in the business name of literally hundreds of Chinese restaurants . The term refers to “a golden gate to trade with the orient”. Even the Golden Gate Bridge towers have a similar shape as the GG park as the center piece of the dress. Sounds from the sky. Japanese hints “ sounds that cannot be heard by us humans, There are sounds that can only be heard using specialized equipment/ machinery “ I think BP is telling you it is not a radio station tower or an early warning tower but it’s the radio controlled boats that ply the lake . This is why he adds “ specialized equipment/ machinery “, and “cannot be heard by us humans”. BP separates those two sentences in the Japanese hints. Why not just say humans can only hear the sounds with equipment. Unless he is referring to a satellite dish. Why did BP use “Sounds from the sky” and not sounds from the air. Well, Sky rhymes with High and air does not. Of course JJP is not going to paint the exact outline of the lake , but only show bits and pieces of it in the image.
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Post by choice on Aug 17, 2023 14:15:00 GMT -5
I'll bite. For all we know this could be a turtle head. The red rose and it's curly stem look like the inside of an ear. So red-eared turtle?! Ying yang is interesting too and gives you two options. Question. When was that turtle added to the lake? It looks newish.
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