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Post by astree on Jul 25, 2017 6:27:44 GMT -5
Here was a terrible lead - (I don't think it's part of a next hunt, so will mention it) There was some information in the book pointing to Savannah, Tennessee. Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savannah,_Tennessee#Geography The change log shows that the entry was made some months before the hunt began, so looked like a set-up. Now, I look at it as a weird coincidence. I ran into other similar instances with other locations. I think the booked contained so much information that was so wide open, that Pete was unaware of, that made it extremely difficult. |
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Post by hearmeall on Jul 25, 2017 9:04:17 GMT -5
The connection I made with Gru Worthy was with a True Value hardware store. On the 15 cents a column inch I matched that with a 5 and dime Worthmore store. Right or wrong it will be interesting to know what the correct solution was.
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Post by minotaurmoreno on Jul 25, 2017 9:05:35 GMT -5
Like you mentioned, too, the 7-degrees-to-Kevin-Bacon effect made it extremely difficult to do that.
Not that it was enough to make me stop playing, but the "7-degrees-to-Kevin-Bacon effect" is what I found the most challenging about this particular hunt. Example:From Book:“Tippy Canoe and Tommy, too,” smiled Lane. -Chapter 15 (canoe, French, potato juice) History: - Tippecanoe and Tyler Too en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tippecanoe_and_Tyler_TooLyrics: - www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxf5dTL3sg0They Might Be Giants Version: - youtu.be/IFaRklAYanY?list=RDIFaRklAYanYPossible Clues:1. William Henry Harrison somehow 2. John Tyler somehow 3. Martin Van Buren somehow 4. The Whig Party somehow 5. Zionville, Ohio 6. Madison, Wisconsin 7. The full version talks about the Bay State boys (state of Massachusetts), Bunker Hill (Boston), Green Mountain boys (Vermont), etc. Questions: How far do you dig, where do you stop, and how do you know when you are supposed to stop? Tippecanoe and Tyler Too Lyrics (Full Version):
Like the rushing of mighty waters, waters, waters On it I will go! And in its course will clear the way For Tippecanoe and Tyler too. See the Loco standard tottering, tottering, tottering, Down it must go! And in its place we'll rear the flag Of Tippecanoe and Tyler too. Let them talk about hard cider, cider, cider, And Log Cabins too, It will only help to speed the ball For Tippecanoe and Tyler too. Don't you hear from every quarter, quarter, quarter, Good news and true? That swift the ball is rolling on For Tippecanoe and Tyler too. The Bay State boys turned out in thousands, thousands, thousands, Not long ago, And at Bunker Hill they set their seals For Tippecanoe and Tyler too. Have you heard from old Vermount, mount, mount, All hones and true? The Green Mountain boys are rolling the ball For Tippecanoe and Tyler too. His latchstring hangs outside the door, door, door, And is never pulled through, For it never was the custom of Old Tippecanoe and Tyler too. He always has his table set, set, set, For all honest and true, To ask you in to take a bite With Tippecanoe and Tyler too. Little Matty's days are numbered, numbered, numbered, Out he must go! And in his place we'll put the good Old Tippecanoe and Tyler too |
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Post by toppop on Jul 25, 2017 12:55:52 GMT -5
I think the searcher will be very familiar with the location, and did not "solve" this from sratch, (sratch meaning knowing nothing of the hid area before the hunt.)
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jul 25, 2017 16:08:43 GMT -5
I think the searcher will be very familiar with the location, and did not "solve" this from sratch, (sratch meaning knowing nothing of the hid area before the hunt.) I disagree. Although I think it is possible that someone who has a familiarity with the area has an advantage, I think there are enough clues in the book for someone who is not from the area to be able to form a solution, and go and search. Use the Hot Springs, Arkansas solution as an example. It could be correct. Or it could be incorrect, and a red herring at that. But many people came up with the Hot Springs solution from the book that led them to a particular rock formation in a National Park. I am sure that not all of these people are from the Hot Springs area. The treasure could have been there. Plus, I believe that there is someone on this forum who IS from Arkansas. Did they pick up on the Hot Springs clues? If the hunt has been solved by someone from the area, then it should have been solved sooner. Why would it take them this long to figure it out? |
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Post by cowlazars on Jul 25, 2017 18:07:42 GMT -5
What if Hot Springs AK is the location Pete could not figure out why people were searching there? That would be something.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 25, 2017 18:56:58 GMT -5
Hi Mike -- given the HO-TS-PR-IN of Hoddaddy tsktsk prettify introfly, it is unlikely to have
occurred without deliberate design by Pete. I still think it's a crap clue because it breaks down --
quite unnecessarily, I might add -- at South Georgia. I still haven't heard good reasoning from
the people that like Hot Springs, AR, as to why they are okay with the clue breakdown in the
final two words. Maybe someone has posted a reason, but I don't recall reading one.
I will say that the dot pattern from New Orleans to Baton Rouge and on to Hot Springs is fairly
compelling, but there are more clues for Baton Rouge than there are for Hot Springs in my opinion.
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Post by toppop on Jul 25, 2017 21:24:12 GMT -5
For the dots, what starts you in New Orleans ? 1st 3/4 of book is to give you city treasure is in, Pete's words. Oh,
And what is Ar's yellow brick road, Honeysuckle trail?
Oh, I just got it, it hit me!,,, It all depends on what the meaning of 'Is' is.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 25, 2017 23:33:27 GMT -5
Toppop: It's no secret that I think the Hot Springs solution is a bit, well, wet. As you say: first 3/4 of the book: 14, 15, 16 different clues to the city the treasure "token" is hidden in or near. Hodaddy is one clue, and the evidence suggests it's a red herring. There are abundant clues to New Orleans (too flippin' obvious), Baton Rouge, and undeniably NYC. But how hilarious if it turns out HOTSPRINSOGE was nothing but coincidence.
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Post by astree on Jul 26, 2017 7:19:59 GMT -5
Hi Mike -- given the HO-TS-PR-IN of Hoddaddy tsktsk prettify introfly, it is unlikely to have occurred without deliberate design by Pete. I still think it's a crap clue because it breaks down -- quite unnecessarily, I might add -- at South Georgia. I still haven't heard good reasoning from the people that like Hot Springs, AR, as to why they are okay with the clue breakdown in the final two words. Maybe someone has posted a reason, but I don't recall reading one. I will say that the dot pattern from New Orleans to Baton Rouge and on to Hot Springs is fairly compelling, but there are more clues for Baton Rouge than there are for Hot Springs in my opinion. Hi Zaphod,
I think Pete may have been using the capital letters of South Georgia to signal that we were only supposed to use those first letters – if so, a weak signal in my opinion, but possible.
There are a good set of clues (or “between the lines” information) supporting Hot Springs once you get there, but not easy to use or connect. I’ll use “Frenchies” that txth posted as a picture as an example. That “between the lines”(?) would be a nice semi-confirmer once you had already committed and made the trip and maybe accidentally came across it while driving through town – but would it be reasonable to expect anyone to make that connection from one of thousands of words in another part of the book, to Hot Springs? My first impression was that “frenchies” was part of an anagram, or we needed to find some words in the French language, etc.
Even at Hot Springs, I couldn’t differentiate between the Balance (“specialist”, Judy) Rock and Goat (“I had to be goat-footed”, which was actually said at Nels treasure site) Rock. The 1920’s Observation Gazebo had 2 tie-ins to the story – The 1920’s themed restaurant they ate at in the area, and the Gaze-bo, Skip-Bo … because from Goat Rock to the 1920’s Gaze(bo) is 210 degrees. Timmy and Mitchell were to go to the ledge (at Goat Rock) and “gaze(bo) in the distance at 210 degrees”. This is a very unfair red herring, not funny at all.
There are a good number of other tie-ins to Hot Springs, but I won’t mention yet because some are in the consolidation round. txth did a great job with his videos - the rock narrows he posted was in the video of Pete hiding the treasure before he removed that link.
There is another set of extremely strong clues that point to another area, so won’t mention in case there is another substantial hunt.
astree
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Post by astree on Jul 26, 2017 7:23:07 GMT -5
Hi Mike -- given the HO-TS-PR-IN of Hoddaddy tsktsk prettify introfly, it is unlikely to have occurred without deliberate design by Pete. I still think it's a crap clue because it breaks down -- quite unnecessarily, I might add -- at South Georgia.
One thing - in most puzzles I have experience with, there is some hint about how to work the code. In this puzzle, there WAS a hint about how to work the HO-TS-PR-IN-SoGe, but won't mention it for now because of the consolidation (edit: * consolation round). Trouble was, there was also other hints showing other ways to interpret the Hodaddy, so it wasn't clear which to use.
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Post by troye on Jul 26, 2017 8:23:15 GMT -5
the rock narrows he posted was in the video of Pete hiding the treasure before he removed that link.
The video was posted and then removed? When did this happen? I don't remember seeing or hearing about that. |
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Post by astree on Jul 26, 2017 8:29:57 GMT -5
Yes, I spent the majority of my time down below the rocks though I climbed around on top as well looking in crevices. Here is the picture I took of the narrow from the bottom looking up: s20.postimg.org/z400sh0ct/IMG_3093.jpg I had been trying to find a link to a video I thought I saw at the beginning of the hunt - it may have been in promotional info that was posted before the hunt. In the video, Pete was going into a rock narrows that is the one you posted, or very similar. I thought I may have imagined seeing it, but the picture you posted confirms what I saw. The link may have been removed about the time the hunt started.
for the question in previous post
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Post by minotaurmoreno on Jul 26, 2017 8:55:21 GMT -5
Toppop: It's no secret that I think the Hot Springs solution is a bit, well, wet. As you say: first 3/4 of the book: 14, 15, 16 different clues to the city the treasure "token" is hidden in or near. Hodaddy is one clue, and the evidence suggests it's a red herring. There are abundant clues to New Orleans (too flippin' obvious), Baton Rouge, and undeniably NYC. But how hilarious if it turns out HOTSPRINSOGE was nothing but coincidence. As much as I like Hot Springs and am convinced it is the right spot, it wouldn't surprise me at all if I'm wrong and it's not. For all these hunts, IMO, you get your group of "solves" to what you believe are clues together, do your best to make them all work together, and hope you and the creator saw things the same way. Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. |
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jul 26, 2017 10:22:10 GMT -5
I don't recall there being a video released by Pete, I wish I had seen it if there was! But I do recognize that photo by txth as what I would also call the "rock narrows".
I visited, and searched that area as well.
If Hot Springs is not the solution, then there were many people who certainly thought it was, and that can not be by accident. Those who have gone there to search can vouch for the "markers" being exact fits for what is described in the book.
If Hot Springs turns out to be a red herring, then I think that was a very cruel joke by Pete.
If Hot Springs IS the solution, then where was the flute hidden? How did so many people miss finding it? And why was it only found now, after many searches have been done?
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