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Apr 29, 2023 8:07:06 GMT -5
Post by Bownarrow on Apr 29, 2023 8:07:06 GMT -5
Here is a different photograph.
A-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha! I don't know why I did any work to figure this out for myself. The Timeline in the MARANATHA book has an entry for the year 1646, although the entry refers to the church of Saint Sulpice in Paris, and not the church in Rennes-le-Chateau.
Ha-Ha-Ha! 16 = P, 4 = D, and 6 = F.
PDF!
Weird! The photos of the '1746' and the '1646' masonry blocks look like they are photos of different blocks of masonry. It looks like the different appearances however could be due to the effect of the light, but am not sure.
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Apr 29, 2023 8:15:26 GMT -5
Post by Bownarrow on Apr 29, 2023 8:15:26 GMT -5
Once you find the 'naked lady in the tub' and the other gorillas of her family, the identity of 'the beast' will be obvious.!(It's one of the other 'gorillas!')
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Apr 29, 2023 10:17:15 GMT -5
Post by rubyfelixir on Apr 29, 2023 10:17:15 GMT -5
Uhhh... The Lady... in the Jacuzzi? J'accusé! Hmmm... I do not know the thing that you are referring to. I think that your clues are a sort of double-speak. I would need an Einstein to solve such a paradox! Mary and Joseph, BOWTIE! Tell me, before I send in the infantry! You knave! Knave! Knave!
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Post by Bownarrow on May 3, 2023 7:26:02 GMT -5
Uhhh... The Lady... in the Jacuzzi? J'accusé! Hmmm... I do not know the thing that you are referring to. I think that your clues are a sort of double-speak. I would need an Einstein to solve such a paradox! Mary and Joseph, BOWTIE! Tell me, before I send in the infantry! You knave! Knave! Knave! I am not using ‘double speak’ of any kind. The only ‘figure of speech’ that I am using, is the term ‘gorilla’ which I am using to refer to something that is right in front of our eyes but we are unable to see because of our 'inattentional blindness'. ‘The naked lady in a tub’ is a literal description of what you see. It does not require being an Einstein, any more than the ability to see the gorilla in the video requires being an Einstein. It simply requires the ability to see. Like I said, you will be shocked when you find her, because she has been right in front of your eyes and all other RLC researchers for as long the mystery has been around. I first found her in 2014, but even now I still find the fact that I cannot find any reference to her or the other members of her family in the RLC literature shocking. Look at Esperaza. collections.library.yale.edu/catalog/200204677v (top middle)
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Post by rubyfelixir on May 3, 2023 9:18:33 GMT -5
You send me to the Voynich Manuscript, to look at the art. What do you expect me to do with it? Tear out that page from the manuscript, and stand in the church and compare the art on the page to the ornaments and architecture of the church interior? Like some Professor of Symbology in a novel about a code? Maybe you should work on your ESP-eraza, because I am not getting what-ever it is that you want me to get.
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May 4, 2023 10:33:20 GMT -5
Post by Bownarrow on May 4, 2023 10:33:20 GMT -5
You send me to the Voynich Manuscript, to look at the art. What do you expect me to do with it? Tear out that page from the manuscript, and stand in the church and compare the art on the page to the ornaments and architecture of the church interior? Like some Professor of Symbology in a novel about a code? Maybe you should work on your ESP-eraza, because I am not getting what-ever it is that you want me to get. I don't want to spoil the thrill of finding it for yourself. I have described what there is to be seen and where it is to be seen- an image like the drawing at the top of the page, in the middle, on v.77 of the VM, is the image that you are looking for. The place to start looking for it is at Esperaza. The drawing in question in the VM is quite a strange and unique image and to find a similar one in the RLC mystery is quite a shocking experience. Once the 'naked lady in a tub' has been found, the near-by 'crusader on a horse' and ' the beast' (the other 'gorillas')are easy to find. These 'gorillas' are three important missing pieces of the puzzle that have prevented the RLC mystery from being solved.
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May 4, 2023 12:12:18 GMT -5
Post by rubyfelixir on May 4, 2023 12:12:18 GMT -5
Well, I am not going to do that. That is distinctly not thrilling, Mr. Narrow. You state that 'The place to start looking for it is at Esperaza'. I am not in Esperaza, Mr. Narrow. Again, you act as if I am like some Professor of Symbology in a novel about a code. Hmmm, maybe the thrill will be provided by the dinosaurs there, but that is a completely different movie adaptation. I am also not certain what the 'mystery' of Rennes-le-Chateau is meant to be. Is there one?
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May 18, 2023 13:45:29 GMT -5
Post by rubyfelixir on May 18, 2023 13:45:29 GMT -5
Well, it has been two weeks, and there has been no attempt by you to explain more fully your Bather, Crusader, Gorilla idea. I can only assume that you think that the term 'REX MUNDI', used in the Large Parchment, refers to a TYRANNOSAURUS REX, which is why you want me to go to Esperaza, to visit the Dinosauria, to find a Lady-ina-tub-a-tops, and a Crusader-ona-horz-a-dactyl.
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May 19, 2023 11:21:26 GMT -5
Post by Bownarrow on May 19, 2023 11:21:26 GMT -5
Well, it has been two weeks, and there has been no attempt by you to explain more fully your Bather, Crusader, Gorilla idea. I can only assume that you think that the term 'REX MUNDI', used in the Large Parchment, refers to a TYRANNOSAURUS REX, which is why you want me to go to Esperaza, to visit the Dinosauria, to find a Lady-ina-tub-a-tops, and a Crusader-ona-horz-a-dactyl. Just tending to other business. The ‘gorillas’ are the next best thing to finding the Holy Grail and the Philosopher’s Stone. Find them and you are just a whisper away from finding these two. Remember that St. Cuthbert’s Gospel is the likely source of the Latin text of the Large Parchment. ‘Amiantus’ is both another title of the B.V.M.( see p 17 of Polyanthea Mariana) and a title of another Latin Codex whose text differs by only 4 letters from the Latin Text of the Large parchment. The Codex Amiantus and St. Cuthbert’s Gospel are closely related. ‘ Amaranthus’ is also a title of the B.V.M.( see p 16 of Polyanthea Mariana). ‘ Amaranthus’ is the Latin name of the flower that is known in English as Amaranth. The name Amarantha ( anagram of Maranatha) is derived from the word Amaranthus/ Amaranth.
Also note that Amiantus was the word used to refer to Asbestos in ancient times. On the Alchemical Door in Rome there appears the sigil for Iron/Mars: He who can burn with water and wash with fire, makes heaven from earth and precious earth from heaven.”The reference to ‘ wash with fire’ is a reference to Amiantus/Asbestos which if placed in a fire comes out clean.
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May 20, 2023 10:22:33 GMT -5
Post by Bownarrow on May 20, 2023 10:22:33 GMT -5
Sauniere’s last words “ John 23” are a clue pointing to where the ‘gorillas’ are found. They also can be interpreted as referring to St. Cuthberts’s Gospel. St. Cuthbert’s Gospel therefore, also indicates where the ‘gorillas’ are to be found.
Since the Holy Grail and the Philosopher’s Stone are only a whisper away once the ‘gorillas’ have been found, St.Cuthbert’s Gospel is a clue pointing to the Holy Grail and the Philosopher’s Stone.
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May 20, 2023 15:34:45 GMT -5
Post by rubyfelixir on May 20, 2023 15:34:45 GMT -5
The Gospel of Saint Cuthbert is, according to Wikipedia, a 'very good and careful copy of the single Gospel of John'. Fr. Sauniere was French, so what he said was "Jean vingt-trois". The Gospel of John has 21 chapters. Perhaps he meant John, Chapter 20, Verse 3? QUOTE THE GOSPEL OF JOHN 'Peter therefore went forth, and that other disciple, and came to the sepulchre.' END QUOTE So the gorillas must be in a cemetery. Saint Cuthbert's copy of the Gospel of John was found in Saint Cuthbert's tomb. A lot of FINGERS being pointed at tombs.
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May 23, 2023 7:04:33 GMT -5
Post by Bownarrow on May 23, 2023 7:04:33 GMT -5
The Gospel of Saint Cuthbert is, according to Wikipedia, a 'very good and careful copy of the single Gospel of John'. Fr. Sauniere was French, so what he said was "Jean vingt-trois". The Gospel of John has 21 chapters. Perhaps he meant John, Chapter 20, Verse 3? QUOTE THE GOSPEL OF JOHN 'Peter therefore went forth, and that other disciple, and came to the sepulchre.' END QUOTE So the gorillas must be in a cemetery. Saint Cuthbert's copy of the Gospel of John was found in Saint Cuthbert's tomb. A lot of FINGERS being pointed at tombs. Yes. The sepulchre in John 20:3 refers to The Tomb of Jesus. books.google.co.uk/books?id=RchBAAAAcAAJ&printsec=frontcover&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=falseAnother title of B.V.M. is Digitus Index (the index finger or pointing finger)( p117 Polyanthea Mariana)"The pointing fingers are as true as the half broken Nehushtan"
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May 23, 2023 7:45:40 GMT -5
Post by Bownarrow on May 23, 2023 7:45:40 GMT -5
www.pacifica.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/mendenhall.pdfInteresting that the Muse Clio( the regal female figure in Poussin's second version of The Shepherds of Arcadia) is correlated with Luna in the frontispiece to Franchino Gaffurio's Practica Musicae.
It is also interesting that LUNA is an anagram of ULNA which can refer to the forearm in Latin. The shadow of the forearm of the shepherd in blue in Poussin's painting resembles a sickle. The strange sickle shape(think SICKLE ULNA = SICKLE LUNA ) of the shadow of the shepherd's forearm could be a clue pointing to the identity of the regal female as the Muse CLIO(LUNA). The sickle is unlikely to be a reference to death as the sickle was not used as a symbol of the death of an individual but rather as a symbol of the deaths of many -e.g. deaths caused by the plague. www.britannica.com/biography/Nicolas-Poussin/Conversion-to-ClassicismIn 1647 Poussin outlined another theoretical principle that was to be crucially important for future generations of artists, particularly in the 19th century: his so-called “theory of the modes.” Basing his ideas on the modes of ancient music, Poussin observed that all aspects of a painting should be chosen to arouse an emotion in the viewer that is appropriate to the subject.
"First harken to David the astrologer for as he rests his staff next to his sons he points to the centre of the heavenly spheres and draws their frozen music"
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May 23, 2023 18:16:04 GMT -5
Post by rubyfelixir on May 23, 2023 18:16:04 GMT -5
So, in ONE RANDOM work, some RANDOM GUY associated a thing with another thing in a connection not used by anyone before or since? This association has no relevance to your argument, because you can see the fore-arm and the shadow in the painting, and use the word ULNA without that IMPRACTICAL musical detour.
ULNA = ANUL = ANNUL, to declare invalid, to have no legal existence, to make void. Looks like ANNUAL, occurring or done once a year, also, a service commemorating the anniversary of a person's death.
The ULNA is one of two fore-arm bones, the other being the RADIUS. Did the artist intend to for the viewer to think of the names of the bones in the fully-fleshed fore-arm? Why not then, the bones in the hand? 'DEAD HAND', also known as 'Perimeter', was an automatic nuclear weapons-control system that was constructed by the Soviet Union, to maintain a second-strike capability by ensuring that the destruction of the Soviet leadership would not prevent the Soviet military from releasing its nuclear weapons in a retaliatory nuclear strike against the country that launched the attack on Russia.
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May 24, 2023 7:19:09 GMT -5
Post by Bownarrow on May 24, 2023 7:19:09 GMT -5
So, in ONE RANDOM work, some RANDOM GUY associated a thing with another thing in a connection not used by anyone before or since? This association has no relevance to your argument, because you can see the fore-arm and the shadow in the painting, and use the word ULNA without that IMPRACTICAL musical detour. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchinus_Gaffurius“ Franchinus Gaffurius (Franchino Gaffurio; 14 January 1451 – 25 June 1522) was an Italian music theorist and composer of the Renaissance. He was an almost exact contemporary of Josquin des Prez and Leonardo da Vinci, both of whom were his personal friends. He was one of the most famous musicians in Italy in the late 15th and early 16th centuries.”...
Gaffurius was widely read, and showed a strong Renaissance humanist bent. In addition to having a thorough understanding of contemporary musical practice, he met composers from all over Europe, since he had the good fortune to be living and working at one of the centers of activity for the incoming Netherlandersstabatmater.info/componist/gafforiHis “Practica Musicae” from 1496 was reprinted not less than 6 times and was still in use in the 17th century.www.researchgate.net/publication/291355746_Poussin_and_the_Modes_of_Music Franchinus Gaffurius was certainly no random guy and his Practica Musicae was no random work.He was one of the most famous musicians in Italy in the 15th and 16th centuries and his Practica Musica had a profound influence on later writers on the subject including Gioseffo Zarlino whose writings influenced Poussin. The poet Giambattista Marino was a good friend of Poussin and he wrote a long poem glorifying the harmony of the cosmos.Poussin therefore was likely well versed in the idea of The Harmony of The Spheres and with Franchinus Gaffurius’ works. herschelsociety.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Harmony-of-the-Spheres.docGiambattista Marino (1569-1625), known as Cavalieri, edited in 1623 a gigantic poetic document, Adonis, which glorified the arrangement of the cosmos in a vast machine, the work of a demigod, whose order and harmony were identical to those of a clock or an organ. books.google.co.uk/books?id=nJaVehwefi0C&pg=PA32&lpg=PA32&dq=clio+muse+luna+music+of+the+spheres&source=bl&ots=XmkNubqcno&sig=ACfU3U01dWAuRHTHtrUR0yom9qoTkazQyg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiB-Oe8lY7_AhWLaMAKHe7LCNI4ChDoAXoECAUQAgP32 www.examenapium.it/gaffurio/biblio/Haar1974.pdfP13 “It is odd that after all this erudition he does not mention Martianus Capella, source of the planet-muse analogies he uses here.”science.jrank.org/pages/9579/Harmony-Neoplatonic-Speculative-Harmony.htmlA unique passage transmitting the "musical" version of Plato's image is found in the first book of Martianus Capella's fifth-century Neoplatonic treatise, De nuptiis Philologiae et Mercurii (On the marriage of Philology and Mercury). Martianus describes the Muses arriving at their celestial locations:
The upper planets and the sevenfold spheres produced together the clear harmonies of a certain sweet melody in a sound even more pleasant than usual, undoubtedly because they knew that the Muses were approaching. Passing through all the spheres one by one, each Muse stopped when she recognized the pitch that was familiar to her. Urania occupied the most distant sphere of the starry universe, which was carried along resonating an acute clear tone. Polymnia took the circle of Saturn; Euterpe that of Jupiter. Erato, once she had entered the sphere, sang the pitch of Mars. Melpone took the middle orbit where the sun makes the sky beautiful with his flaming light. Terpsichore was united with the gold of Venus. Calliope took possession of the sphere of Mercury, and Clio the innermost circle … on the moon, which resonated a deep pitch in a harsher tone. (Martianus Capella, De nuptiis, book 1, pp. 12–13The Muse Clio had been associated with Luna since antiquity ( 5th C AD). Poussin draws our attention to the forearm(ulna) by means of it’s sickle shaped shadow. www.latin-is-simple.com/en/vocabulary/noun/16841/Ulna = forearm( Latin) . The word ULNA does not just refer to the bone.
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