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Post by goldwatch on Jun 8, 2020 7:48:37 GMT -5
Fenn really had a point in giving people hope. Now there’s a void... it has to be real since this would be a bad time to take away peoples hope... but the chest was his to give and to take and shame on us if we were not able to find it in 10 years... let’s wait for the solve - Has to be Ojo Caliente According to one news report, the finder doesn't want the location revealed. Then again, according to Dal, it should be coming out in a few days. I think people are misunderstanding what Forrest says quite a bit, so I don't have a clue what's going to happen. |
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Post by goldwatch on Jun 8, 2020 7:58:30 GMT -5
It feels weird, not having the Chase anymore. I've only been in it for 4 years, I can only guess how people in it for 6-7-8 years are feeling now. It took me up until now to have it really sink in. I’m inside a year and man am I going to miss this game... No doubt. It was a hook from day one. Forrest really knows how to fish. |
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Post by astree on Jun 8, 2020 8:01:11 GMT -5
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Interesting that the announcement was made on 6.6 and f is the 6th letter
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Post by secondfiddle on Jun 8, 2020 8:07:13 GMT -5
Interesting it was announced on 6/6 after I was at the location on 6/5.
There was also the Martha email that came out at the same time I was sending info to Forrest asking if the chest was still there
Also interesting how the Lost Chaser email showed up the day after I spent several hours driving around the area and the local rancher asked if I was lost.
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Post by goldwatch on Jun 8, 2020 8:20:14 GMT -5
Interesting it was announced on 6/6 after I was at the location on 6/5. There was also the Martha email that came out at the same time I was sending info to Forrest asking if the chest was still there Also interesting how the Lost Chaser email showed up the day after I spent several hours driving around the area and the local rancher asked if I was lost. How do you know you were at THE location? Many of us thought we had it "nailed down." But really, how many of us did? We'd have been stumbling over ourselves all summer long if everyone is to be believed. |
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Post by secondfiddle on Jun 8, 2020 8:25:09 GMT -5
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Post by goldwatch on Jun 8, 2020 8:37:57 GMT -5
I can't say, one way or another, about your solve or mine. Or anyone else's, for that matter. Just remember one thing. The Rockies are huge. There could be hundreds of solves that all are just as good in their own way, but not the right solve. |
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Post by secondfiddle on Jun 8, 2020 8:40:45 GMT -5
We may never know the truth!
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Post by foresteidolon on Jun 8, 2020 12:32:27 GMT -5
I think Fenn ended it... Hopefully I am wrong! I think you’re right I think you may have a point there. With people dying in pursuit of the chase and numerous silly lawsuits against him, and people trespassing on his property and following him, I think Forrest may have ended the chase on his own terms. On the other hand, if he did not, it is a sad end of the dream for many of us. I believe a great deal of us out there dreamed of one day proving our perfect solve and going to the Rocky Mountains and finding the treasure. Even if we did not find the treasure, the dream inside of us was there, but now since this announcement the dream is gone and it is a hard thing to take for I'm sure a lot of dreamers who wanted to have a grand adventure in their lifetime. |
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Post by tinkerbelle on Jun 8, 2020 14:53:33 GMT -5
As my search partner daughter and I discussed this morning as much we thought the ins and the outs of the search, we never considered it's ending being this way. We both figured all of our notes would be passed along to our grandkids. Then our thoughts went to what we would have done had we been the finders. We would have wished to remain anonymous also. Now the secret where belongs to the finder and it is his call. It very well could be how it ends without a location being known about. And remember all that goes along with having the title to the chest, the negative stuff. For those of us who were invested heart and soul, it's personal. We invested many hours of our lives to researching and learning about areas of interest. We also, discussed how Forrest had to have a Thank God it's over moment along with the sadness of knowing change has come. We had planned to go to the very spot that we started at by sheer coincidence and now we will revisit it with the thoughts of being present to our end of our journey. We have come full circle, beginning to the end. Beautiful positive things happened, we are all better for being in the in so many different ways. I am proud to have been part of this story. Everyone of us were pieces of the puzzle and we should be grateful for having such a freaking cool adventure. In the crazy world today, ain't it great we came together as a whole in a good way? Maybe this is just another chapter in our books and the next one will be full of good stuff for us. I hope so.
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Post by grapette79or80 on Jun 9, 2020 2:18:51 GMT -5
I think you may have a point there. With people dying in pursuit of the chase and numerous silly lawsuits against him, and people trespassing on his property and following him, I think Forrest may have ended the chase on his own terms. On the other hand, if he did not, it is a sad end of the dream for many of us. I believe a great deal of us out there dreamed of one day proving our perfect solve and going to the Rocky Mountains and finding the treasure. Even if we did not find the treasure, the dream inside of us was there, but now since this announcement the dream is gone and it is a hard thing to take for I'm sure a lot of dreamers who wanted to have a grand adventure in their lifetime. I think this is well put. But also consider, although Fenn has stated his family is well taken care of, times are tough right now. Maybe he felt that instead of leaving the chest out forever without maybe ever having a finder, give the value to his grandsons, or maybe make a museum in Santa Fe which would help tourism alot. In any case, my crazy concept is that Fenn is into hermeticism, mysticism and rosicrucianism and that the poem is to be solved both from a geographical point of view but also aided by coordinates hidden within cryptology. Thomas Browne minted the word cryptology in the 17th century. Everard was a great Rosicrucian and Bacon ciphers exist in the book. Anyways, it’s been entertaining! Part of the point of secret societies and mysteries are that their legend lives on because they are never truly explained. |
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Post by firesnake on Jun 9, 2020 4:03:02 GMT -5
I didn't know Everand was a Rosicrucian but if true that's an interesting take. Part of me thinks the solve is more mystical than first appears, or even astrological in nature. I had my ideas based on Orion's belt and Native American star lore but never found the time to get properly involved in that side of things.
If the treasure is now worth around $10m then who could blame him for pulling it back in?
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Post by grapette79or80 on Jun 9, 2020 8:52:17 GMT -5
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HermeticismAll IMO: «As I have gone alone in there» points to Hermticism. A term coines by John Everard in 1650. «Cryptography» was coined by Thomas Browne around the same time. There are Bacon ciphers in TTOTC. There are «John Dee» acrostics in the poem. Fenn talks about watering his trees, has to do with triangles and Hermes Trismegistus (Thrice Great) and importance of geometry in Rosicrucianism / Masonry. All this requires a leap of faith, but when Fenn wears an old top hat just some weeks ago when receiving toilet paper at his gate, I think it’s a cheeky reference to Francis Bacon whose trade mark was the slanted almost wizard like top hat. Either you’re into this stuff or not... but I think Fenn is...
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Post by nkown on Jun 9, 2020 11:26:44 GMT -5
If you skip by 3-1-4-1 ... Pi... mirrored and forward... you get "Be Thom Browne" at one section of the poem.
Look up The Orchard Problem and you'll see another asterisk (not an asterism)
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Post by Bownarrow on Jun 9, 2020 11:40:16 GMT -5
According to one news report, the finder doesn't want the location revealed. Then again, according to Dal, it should be coming out in a few days. I think people are misunderstanding what Forrest says quite a bit, so I don't have a clue what's going to happen. Somewhere I read that ff had nothing written down, on his computer etc(it was all in his head), regarding the location, how to solve the puzzle etc.
If this report about the finder not wanting the location revealed is true, does that mean that if it had been found after ff had passed, we would never know the location, answers to clues etc?
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