Forrest with pictures of the chest

[Jenny]

Jun 17, 2020 10:05:08 GMT -5 martha said:

The needles and the twigs near the chest look like piñon .  From what I can see of the pine cones they also look like piñon.  That would mean the state is either New Mexico or Colorado and the elevation is below 7500 feet.

Is anyone an expert on this and can verify...... or share images and comparisons for others to consider? This might be the only clues we get for awhile.....

[martha]

Jun 17, 2020 10:34:45 GMT -5 Jenny said:

Jun 17, 2020 10:05:08 GMT -5 martha said:

The needles and the twigs near the chest look like piñon .  From what I can see of the pine cones they also look like piñon.  That would mean the state is either New Mexico or Colorado and the elevation is below 7500 feet.

Is anyone an expert on this and can verify...... or share images and comparisons for others to consider? This might be the only clues we get for awhile.....

I'm no expert but I do have a piñon growing in my back yard.

[astree]

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Noticing:

1) It was "left on the ground", but there is dirt on the lower box edges. Was it in a recessed area, or floodwater hit it at times?
2) The bracelet was wet when found. I don't see water in the box, but there may be?
3) The key apparently rusted, was it a brass key?
4) The twig in the chest should be identifiable, as has already been posted. (Martha, can you pull a similar size twig from you pinon, and see how the sub-branching spaces?)
5) The grass may be common, unknown.
6) Looks like a daytime picture, but was found "under a canopy of stars"
7) Not seeing any shadowing
8) As others have asked, what is the context of the Photos with Forrest in them?

[davebakedpotato]

I have a small item to share regarding piñon:

Recall the brief video from NM tourism in 2015 that got people excited?:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=aJBakBqwQVs

It seems like Forrest let something slip that he shouldn't have.

I recently got hold of the original unedited footage of that interview, and it turns out that:

- In the uncut footage, Forrest says he had let something slip *before* mentioning piñon, it's just edited the other way round.
- More importantly, the interviewer actually *asks* Forrest to say he'd let something slip for the purposes of the video!

That doesn't mean that piñon aren't important, but I can categorically state that it isn't the thing that Forrest wishes he hadn't said, because there's no such thing. He was asked to say he'd let something slip.

I was hoping that the thing he let slip was on the cutting room floor. Foiled again...

[astree]

Jun 17, 2020 10:51:13 GMT -5 davebakedpotato said:

I have a small item to share regarding piñon:

Recall the brief video from NM tourism in 2015 that got people excited?:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=aJBakBqwQVs

It seems like Forrest let something slip that he shouldn't have.

I recently got hold of the original unedited footage of that interview, and it turns out that:

- In the uncut footage, Forrest says he had let something slip *before* mentioning piñon, it's just edited the other way round.
- The interviewer actually *asks* Forrest to say he'd let something slip for the purposes of the video.

That doesn't mean that piñon aren't important, but I can categorically state that it isn't the thing that Forrest wishes he hadn't said, because there's no such thing. He was asked to say he'd let something slip.

I was hoping that the thing he let slip was on the cutting room floor. Foiled again...

Dave,

This is quite curious, as to: 1) obtaining the uncut footage (was it in public, or you had to dig for it?), and 2) Forrest has said he did not mislead or not subterfuge (in sight).  Wouldnt that statement, if he was asked to say it, be misleading?  Or, maybe the statement itself was something he wish he didnt say ... that would be a witty kind of thing that I could see Forrest saying.

[minotaurmoreno]

[davebakedpotato]

Jun 17, 2020 10:55:21 GMT -5 astree said:

Jun 17, 2020 10:51:13 GMT -5 davebakedpotato said:

I have a small item to share regarding piñon:

Recall the brief video from NM tourism in 2015 that got people excited?:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=aJBakBqwQVs

It seems like Forrest let something slip that he shouldn't have.

I recently got hold of the original unedited footage of that interview, and it turns out that:

- In the uncut footage, Forrest says he had let something slip *before* mentioning piñon, it's just edited the other way round.
- The interviewer actually *asks* Forrest to say he'd let something slip for the purposes of the video.

That doesn't mean that piñon aren't important, but I can categorically state that it isn't the thing that Forrest wishes he hadn't said, because there's no such thing. He was asked to say he'd let something slip.

I was hoping that the thing he let slip was on the cutting room floor. Foiled again...

Dave,

This is quite curious, as to: 1) obtaining the uncut footage (was it in public, or you had to dig for it?), and 2) Forrest has said he did not mislead or not subterfuge (in sight).  Wouldnt that statement, if he was asked to say it, be misleading?  Or, maybe the statement itself was something he wish he didnt say ... that would be a witty kind of thing that I could see Forrest saying.

I can't comment on 2), but I took the bold approach of asking politely for number 1). I am not allowed to broadcast the footage, and IMO it doesn't seem to hold much of importance, just the same old stories almost verbatim. Remember, it was shot for the tourist board, not by interested searchers.

[minotaurmoreno]

[brianu]

Boom. Pinecones are very important for forest searching. They also on occasion and variety a delectibal.

[davebakedpotato]

I would bet it was under a Ponderosa pine, personally...

[noteast]

YS – Spring Creek at Firehole River

WWWH = Upper Geyser Basin, Old Faithful
canyon down = “191” road down few miles (too far to walk) to Kepler Cascades, Lone Star Trailhead
(hoB = Old Faithful Inn)
put in = Lone Star Trailhead parking lot
no place for the meek = Lone Star Trail along Firehole River (can walk or take bike)
end drawing nigh = Spring Creek intersection, ~1.6 miles on left
no paddle (pedal) up your creek = Spring Creek (cannot take canoe or bike), SE corner area after crossing over river, then over creek
Blazes x3 – Tree arrows = end of trail, campfire ring with painted rock = area to look quickly down

Attached pics: photos.app.goo.gl/1yTrJ6pyBr9PJpji8

heavy loads, water high **Spring Creek was named by members of the 1885 USGS Hague Survey for the large amount of water coming out from beneath the rhyolite rock found on the south side of the creek. The trail, which crosses back and forth across the small creek numerous times, follows an old 1891 stagecoach road. The road was later moved north to follow the current highway, and this trail was used by horse parties and later by hikers.

TTOTC, My War for Me, pg 102. “Why do the yellow and purple flowers flourish where no one is there to see? The answer is at last obvious to me. No one has to see what is there. The grass sees, and the trees and rushing waters of the spring creek also see. What has made me think that I had to see the beauty that is there in order to confirm its existence?”

God Bless All …and keep moving forward

[Jenny]

Jun 17, 2020 11:32:16 GMT -5 noteast said:

TTOTC, My War for Me, pg 102. “Why do the yellow and purple flowers flourish where no one is there to see? The answer is at last obvious to me. No one has to see what is there. The grass sees, and the trees and rushing waters of the spring creek also see. What has made me think that I had to see the beauty that is there in order to confirm its existence?”

That is a beautiful quote of Forrest's.......

[Jenny]

Jun 17, 2020 11:03:16 GMT -5 minotaurmoreno said:

So what kind of pinecone do you feel is by the chest in the photo?

Pinon? Ponderosa? other?

[indulgenceseeker]

It's pinyon...regarding pinyon habitat from Wiki:

The range is in Colorado, southern Wyoming, eastern and central Utah, northern Arizona, New Mexico, western Oklahoma, southeastern California, and the Guadalupe Mountains in far western Texas.[5] It occurs at moderate altitudes of 1,600–2,400 metres (5,200–7,900 ft), rarely as low as 1,400 m (4,600 ft) and as high as 3,000 m (9,800 ft). It is widespread and often abundant in this region, forming extensive open woodlands, usually mixed with junipers in the pinyon-juniper woodland plant community. The Colorado pinyon (piñon) grows as the dominant species on 4.8 million acres (19,000 km2 or 7,300 sq mi) in Colorado, making up 22% of the state's forests. The Colorado pinyon has cultural meaning to agriculture, as strong piñon wood "plow heads" were used to break soil for crop planting at the state's earliest known agricultural settlements.
There is one known example of a Colorado pinyon growing amongst Engelmann spruce (Picea engelmannii) and limber pine (Pinus flexilis) at nearly 3,170 metres (10,400 ft) on Kendrick Peak in the Kaibab National Forest of northern Arizona.

[indulgenceseeker]

So, below 10,200' (as always) and above 5,000' in CO or NM. Agreed?