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Post by heidini on Jun 17, 2020 15:58:20 GMT -5
So we all agreed that itโs not an eastern white pine?๐๐๐ Pinus strobus, commonly denominated the eastern white pine, northern white pine, white pine, Weymouth pine (British), and soft pine[1] is a large pine native to eastern North America. It occurs from Newfoundland, Canada west through the Great Lakes region to southeastern Manitoba and Minnesota, United States, and south along the Appalachian Mountains and upper Piedmont to northernmost Georgia and perhaps very rarely in some of the higher elevations in northeastern Alabama.[2] Unless this is the second treasure that was hidden in the Appalachians! ๐ฑ๐๐๐
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Post by Apple on Jun 17, 2020 16:07:11 GMT -5
Looks like the ground in much of the Rockies. Dry, dusty, pine detritus. Not something I would describe as particularly "lush"--a term I'd apply to the Appalachians and North Cascades, for example.
The color of the floor in one of the other pictures is hideous. Some people say it's illegal to have a turquoise floor outside of New Mexico. It's safe to assume that Fenn was with the chest somewhere in New Mexico.
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Post by Jenny on Jun 17, 2020 16:09:23 GMT -5
So we all agreed that itโs not an eastern white pine?๐๐๐ Pinus strobus, commonly denominated the eastern white pine, northern white pine, white pine, Weymouth pine (British), and soft pine[1] is a large pine native to eastern North America. It occurs from Newfoundland, Canada west through the Great Lakes region to southeastern Manitoba and Minnesota, United States, and south along the Appalachian Mountains and upper Piedmont to northernmost Georgia and perhaps very rarely in some of the higher elevations in northeastern Alabama.[2] lol.... Well...maybe... what if this image was taken after the guy from back east got home? Then these clues have subterfuge.....
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Post by Jenny on Jun 17, 2020 16:10:41 GMT -5
Looks like the ground in much of the Rockies. Dry, dusty, pine detritus. Not something I would describe as particularly "lush"--a term I'd apply to the Appalachians and North Cascades, for example. The color of the floor in one of the other pictures is hideous. Some people say it's illegal to have a turquoise floor outside of New Mexico. It's safe to assume that Fenn was with the chest somewhere in New Mexico. I think we can agree on that.....
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Post by indulgenceseeker on Jun 17, 2020 16:14:18 GMT -5
Cones 4, 3, & 1 in the pic are all in different stages as per Wiki description below; the cones in their different stages fit the size parameters.
The piรฑon pine (Pinus edulis) is a small to medium size tree, reaching 10โ20 metres (33โ66 ft) tall and with a trunk diameter of up to 80 centimetres (31 in), rarely more. The bark is irregularly furrowed and scaly. The leaves ('needles') are in pairs, moderately stout, 3โ5.5 cm (1 1โ8โ21โ8 in) long, and green, with stomata on both inner and outer surfaces but distinctly more on the inner surface forming a whitish band. The cones are globose, 3โ5 cm (1 1โ4โ2 in) long and broad when closed, green at first, ripening yellow-buff when 18โ20 months old, with only a small number of thick scales, with typically 5โ10 fertile scales. The cones open to 4โ6 cm (1 1โ2โ2 1โ4 in) broad when mature, holding the seeds on the scales after opening. The seeds are 10โ14 mm (3โ8โ9โ16 in) long, with a thin shell, a white endosperm, and a vestigial 1โ2 mm (1โ32โ3โ32 in) wing.
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Post by indulgenceseeker on Jun 17, 2020 16:27:09 GMT -5
Lodgepole pine cone and needle stats from Wiki:
The dark and mostly shiny needles are pointed and 4 to 8 cm (1 1โ2 to 3 in) long and 0.9 to 2 mm (0.04 to 0.08 in) wide. The needle edge is weak to clearly serrated. The needles are in pairs on short shoots and rotated about the shoots' longitudinal axes.
The cones are 3โ7 centimetres (1โ3 in) long. The cones have prickles on the scales. Many populations of the Rocky Mountain subspecies, P. contorta subsp. latifolia, have serotinous cones. This means that the cones are closed and must be exposed to high temperatures, such as from forest fires, in order to open and release their seeds.
The lodgepole pine cone and its needles don't pass muster.
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Post by ILLUMINATINPS on Jun 17, 2020 17:36:59 GMT -5
That big nugget that looks like a gold painted rock is actually โgold oreโ. still cool but that was probably what I thought what would be the most valuable thing. In reality, gold ore of that size is worth maybe a couple of hundred bucks. Probably not a million dollar chest, or even half a million, but still cool none the less.
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Post by goldilocks on Jun 17, 2020 17:54:08 GMT -5
Zap they open and close with moisture and humidity. When they are dry they fan out. The cones in photo are a little more uniform looking than pinyon but hard to tell.
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Post by goldhunter on Jun 17, 2020 18:06:16 GMT -5
Not something I would describe as particularly "lush"--a term I'd apply to the Appalachians and North Cascades, for example. I mentioned in a thread a few days ago that if it was where I thought it was, I wouldn't describe it as lush.
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Post by van on Jun 17, 2020 19:34:31 GMT -5
Why are the gold disks on the table twice the size as the gold disc in the box.
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Post by 49 dollers on Jun 17, 2020 19:38:59 GMT -5
White pine would be my guess, it's not pinyon. I would guessย Lodgepole cones from the picture of the different types, but have absolutely no idea about anything related to pine cones.ย In fact, I just learned today that there are male and females! I would say limber pine by the size of the cones.
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Post by martha on Jun 17, 2020 20:17:41 GMT -5
Dried pine needles all seem to be brownish in color regardless of what type of pine they're from. Most of the pine needles in the photo appear to be grey in color. This could be due to the lighting. If so, it makes me wonder if the dirt is really as grey as it looks in the picture.
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Post by minotaurmoreno on Jun 17, 2020 21:34:35 GMT -5
I would guessย Lodgepole cones from the picture of the different types, but have absolutely no idea about anything related to pine cones.ย In fact, I just learned today that there are male and females! I would say limber pine by the size of the cones. Iโm switching my vote. I agree with 49 dollers on it being a limber pine cone.
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Post by astree on Jun 18, 2020 5:54:50 GMT -5
Pinus strobus, commonly denominated the eastern white pine, northern white pine, white pine, Weymouth pine (British), and soft pine[1] is a large pine native to eastern North America. It occurs from Newfoundland, Canada west through the Great Lakes region to southeastern Manitoba and Minnesota, United States, and south along the Appalachian Mountains and upper Piedmont to northernmost Georgia and perhaps very rarely in some of the higher elevations in northeastern Alabama.[2] lol.... Well...maybe... what if this image was taken after the guy from back east got home? Then these clues have subterfuge..... I was thinking that if the guy was smart enough to find the chest, itโs certainly possible that he could have posed a picture away from the hiding spot, in a neighboring state, or even taking twigs and pinecones from home or some other place to pose with the picture
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Post by astree on Jun 18, 2020 7:24:51 GMT -5
. Did Forest ever explain the circumstances as to why he is in contact with the chest again?
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