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Post by indulgenceseeker on Jun 17, 2020 12:24:57 GMT -5
It's definitely not YNP or MT. Southern WY (Medicine Bow Range) still in play.
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Post by 49 dollers on Jun 17, 2020 12:27:27 GMT -5
So what kind of pinecone do you feel is by the chest in the photo? Pinon? Ponderosa? other? White pine would be my guess, it's not pinyon. |
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Post by martha on Jun 17, 2020 12:57:24 GMT -5
Comparing the length of the needles with the size of the chest it appears that they are too short to be from Ponderosa.
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Post by indulgenceseeker on Jun 17, 2020 13:12:29 GMT -5
Notice the needles on the ground next to the chest: 1.2-2.2 inches long, occur in pairs, moderately stiff, stomata on both the outer and inner surfaces. Those are pinyon pine needles.
Notice the pine cones on the bottom right: egg-shaped, 1.5-2 inches long, reddish-brown, scales are few and not covered with prickles; thin-shelled, edible, large and wingless seeds. These are pinyon pine cones.
Notice the opened leaf(s) on the ground in the bottom right as well devoid of their pine seeds.
Can someone else attest to the wood?
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jun 17, 2020 13:42:38 GMT -5
It's not a pinon pine. Looks like lodgepole to me. If true, that would eliminate New Mexico and southern Colorado.
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Post by davebakedpotato on Jun 17, 2020 13:45:24 GMT -5
It's not a pinon pine. Looks like lodgepole to me. If true, that would eliminate New Mexico and southern Colorado. Lol  |
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Post by woollybugger on Jun 17, 2020 14:41:38 GMT -5
Who woke up today expecting to debate pine cones? Show of hands...
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Post by astree on Jun 17, 2020 14:48:17 GMT -5
. Lets see if this image posts. Maybe discuss the cones and stick by number imgur.com/a/yEhNqRXI forget to number one of the items - the chest. Where do chests like that normally grow, or where can they be found? I think if we can answer that, it might help. |
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Post by whotrollsnigh on Jun 17, 2020 14:50:17 GMT -5
. Lets see if this image posts. Maybe discuss the cones and stick by number imgur.com/a/yEhNqRXI forget to number one of the items - the chest. Where do chests like that normally grow, or where can they be found? I think if we can answer that, it might help.  |
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Post by Jenny on Jun 17, 2020 14:59:32 GMT -5
Who woke up today expecting to debate pine cones? Show of hands... lol |
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Post by indulgenceseeker on Jun 17, 2020 15:12:42 GMT -5
This is from Dal's site...Owlman on June 17, 2020 at 10:37 am said:
The TC picture shows evidence of Pinyon Pine cones and needles. You can tell cone size given the TC size. And the dried needles show two-needles per clump, thus “2-needle pine” is Pinyon. That kind of rules out a lot of Montana and much of Wyoming. I don’t think that’s grass, it looks like Sedge (“sedges have edges”). The old wood to the top looks like Cottonwood given it’s rot pattern. So I’d say it was very likely in NM or Colorado, in or adjacent to a wetland or moist area, where Pinyon would grow near Cottonwoods and Sedge. I’m an ecologist and study Spotted Owls in the desert southwest, but am based in Montana. The habitat clues look pretty straight forward IMHO.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jun 17, 2020 15:29:06 GMT -5
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Post by minotaurmoreno on Jun 17, 2020 15:47:41 GMT -5
So what kind of pinecone do you feel is by the chest in the photo? Pinon? Ponderosa? other? White pine would be my guess, it's not pinyon. I would guess Lodgepole cones from the picture of the different types, but have absolutely no idea about anything related to pine cones. In fact, I just learned today that there are male and females!  |
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Post by heidini on Jun 17, 2020 15:54:14 GMT -5
So we all agreed that it’s not an eastern white pine?😂😂😂
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Post by heidini on Jun 17, 2020 15:56:51 GMT -5
So we all agreed that it’s not an eastern white pine?😂😂😂 Pinus strobus, commonly denominated the eastern white pine, northern white pine, white pine, Weymouth pine (British), and soft pine[1] is a large pine native to eastern North America. It occurs from Newfoundland, Canada west through the Great Lakes region to southeastern Manitoba and Minnesota, United States, and south along the Appalachian Mountains and upper Piedmont to northernmost Georgia and perhaps very rarely in some of the higher elevations in northeastern Alabama.[2] |
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