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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 12:25:48 GMT -5
Nope. I've sent him one blaze, no response. People have sent him pictures of holes where they say the chest was, people have sent him pictures of the Taos Pueblo with the chest sitting there in the water (they claim it is the chest), went there and said it was gone, no response from Fenn. Because it wasn't the right spot. Even if we sent him a pic of the right spot, he won't answer because he wants us to make the effort to go get the chest. Otherwise we can send him solve after solve waiting for a confirmation he will never give. As a matter of fact, that happened already, that is how he knows at least one person was within 200 feet based on what they told him. But he never told that person who they are, or what solve it was. Imagine if it was Dal, he's been on probably 60 BOTG searches, he would have to go back and look at each one expanded by 200 feet sphere (it could by 200 feet within a sphere, not circle) |
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Post by kpro on May 5, 2017 12:48:03 GMT -5
You said it has been found. How do you know that? I don't know. I have 2 arguments, and they lead me to a conclusion, that chances that the treasure has already found are well above 50%. Your OP said "to our knowledge", which sounds now to be more of a guess or logical reasoning to believe. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 19:24:05 GMT -5
Rumor has it that box of boggles has been found, countdown in effect on cooling off period. All you have to do is listen to what the man sayz but thats hard to do when everyone is talking so much. I dunno how you can not interpret yesterday's message any other way and with a little imagination you can narrow it down to about 8 pages of posters on the thread I started "The ambiguity of the chase". Agree or disagree not ay of my concern But I think some one has found the gold watch
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 19:54:19 GMT -5
Rumor has it that box of boggles has been found, countdown in effect on cooling off period. All you have to do is listen to what the man sayz but thats hard to do when everyone is talking so much. I dunno how you can not interpret yesterday's message any other way and with a little imagination you can narrow it down to about 8 pages of posters on the thread I started "The ambiguity of the chase". Agree or disagree not ay of my concern But I think some one has found the gold watch If the chest was found, I don't think the message from Fenn would be vague, disguised, or use Fennspeak. If someone sent him a solve that he knew would work, he would simply remain silent, he wouldn't prod them along. His goal IMO is to drag this out as long as possible, and every year before the spring he pipes up. |
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Post by kpro on May 5, 2017 20:01:16 GMT -5
No way, he would not want people to put themselves in harms way. He would announce it, imo. It is still out there.
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Post by heidini on May 5, 2017 20:44:24 GMT -5
For now, all we can do is believe in Mr. Fenn.
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Post by klipper on May 6, 2017 0:02:02 GMT -5
I don't know. I have 2 arguments, and they lead me to a conclusion, that chances that the treasure has already found are well above 50%. Your OP said "to our knowledge", which sounds now to be more of a guess or logical reasoning to believe. Agree. I have my "to our knowledge" against FF's "to our knowledge". |
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Post by heidini on May 6, 2017 7:12:50 GMT -5
are you looking for irrefutable evidence that the chest is still out there whome, I mean klipper?
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Post by klipper on May 6, 2017 7:25:59 GMT -5
are you looking for irrefutable evidence that the chest is still out there whome, I mean klipper? I guess I was on the site, and hope to hear a word of FF about "to our knowledge". |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 10:44:38 GMT -5
I just want to add one more comment.
If the finder wanted to remain anonymous, Forrest would respect that by not giving away his/her name, or anything about the solve. But he WILL call the chase as over, that has no bearing on how anonymous the finder wants to be. Forrest would be expected and probably obligated to say "It has been found" without giving away by whom, where, when, what state, etc.
Also just wanted to remind you that he is unlikely to respond to anything if you sent him a partial solution. For example, if you email and ask "Was the chest found?" without saying anything else and no pictures, and you signed it with your real name, he *might* respond "To my knowledge, no". But if you sent anything else such as a solve, possible location it was, pictures, maps, etc, he will not respond at all because he will not confirm or deny a solve, or give out hints to what the blaze may be, etc.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 10:52:04 GMT -5
IMPORTANT EXCEPTION: If you think you solved the poem and arrive to find a hole and you think it might be the spot, go right ahead and send him a picture and tell him where you were, just don't expect a response. Its important to realize that someone else may have solved it just like you, got there, dug holes and found nothing.
Now if by chance Forrest has no real way to track it, and it just so happens that it WAS the spot, especially if there are holes dug and the site is disturbed such that he knows it must be gone, then I would imagine he would say something right away in public (not to you) and call it off. So it doesn't hurt to send it, you could be doing FF a favor!
The thing is I doubt he would reply, he would instead go to the public. Why? Because if he replied to you, it could open up a can of worms. If he doesn't reply, he will leave you forever assuming who found it or if he even knows who it was. In any case, if a picture sent showed him clear proof that the solve was right and the chest was gone, I cannot imagine him not coming out to the press within hours. This has nothing to do with the finder wanting to be anonymous, they can be and he can call the chase off without having any impact on them.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 10:57:03 GMT -5
One more thing... lol
When I arrived at my place, there was a marking AND at least 3 human made holes near the blaze. But I still assume I was wrong. It is very likely perhaps even Marvin Candle was at my spot (or I was at his), and maybe he left the mark?
These days it is very possible, probably almost a given that people leave crap out there to throw off searchers, especially if you are searching in Yellowstone, Taos, Browns Park, Cody. You know, the big most searched places? I have no doubt whatsoever searchers do crap like carve FF or Omegas into rocks and trees. I mean they had 7 years to do it! That can easily explain arriving at what you think is a blaze with holes around it. Someone else made the blaze(s) and the holes because it wasn't there and they wanted to mess with the next guy.
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Post by klipper on May 6, 2017 11:57:08 GMT -5
Some 65,000 active searchers made well above 100,000 holes in the Rockies, and still 78% beleive, that TC is untouched relying ONLY on phrase "to our knowlegde".
I guess it will be useful to make poll "Has The Treasure Been Found?" regular at the beginning of each season till TC will be found in say, 500-1000 years, when the number of the holes will exceed 10,000,000.
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Post by jdiggins on May 6, 2017 12:03:48 GMT -5
I wouldn't have thunk it, but they do (people) try to mislead. Sad sacks I say. But what they fail to realize that forrest thought of everything, and so should we.
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Post by kpro on May 6, 2017 12:09:06 GMT -5
There is maybe 100 searchers on the blogs, of the 100,000. This is not a significant sample. But hey if it is found, seven should stop searching  |
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