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Post by razorback on May 6, 2017 16:28:09 GMT -5
I just want to add one more comment. If the finder wanted to remain anonymous, Forrest would respect that by not giving away his/her name, or anything about the solve. But he WILL call the chase as over, that has no bearing on how anonymous the finder wants to be. Forrest would be expected and probably obligated to say "It has been found" without giving away by whom, where, when, what state, etc. Also just wanted to remind you that he is unlikely to respond to anything if you sent him a partial solution. For example, if you email and ask "Was the chest found?" without saying anything else and no pictures, and you signed it with your real name, he *might* respond "To my knowledge, no". But if you sent anything else such as a solve, possible location it was, pictures, maps, etc, he will not respond at all because he will not confirm or deny a solve, or give out hints to what the blaze may be, etc. Another Exception: I sent Forrest my solution to San Lazaro. He responded, and I thought he was going to have a heart attack or stroke out. He very clearly told me that my solve was not correct, and he pointed me in a different direction. So, I guess I'm saying, these blanket statements about what Forrest will or won't do, are just opinions and bad ones at that. No one knows what Forrest will or won't do except one person.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 16:50:35 GMT -5
I just want to add one more comment. If the finder wanted to remain anonymous, Forrest would respect that by not giving away his/her name, or anything about the solve. But he WILL call the chase as over, that has no bearing on how anonymous the finder wants to be. Forrest would be expected and probably obligated to say "It has been found" without giving away by whom, where, when, what state, etc. Also just wanted to remind you that he is unlikely to respond to anything if you sent him a partial solution. For example, if you email and ask "Was the chest found?" without saying anything else and no pictures, and you signed it with your real name, he *might* respond "To my knowledge, no". But if you sent anything else such as a solve, possible location it was, pictures, maps, etc, he will not respond at all because he will not confirm or deny a solve, or give out hints to what the blaze may be, etc. Another Exception: I sent Forrest my solution to San Lazaro. He responded, and I thought he was going to have a heart attack or stroke out. He very clearly told me that my solve was not correct, and he pointed me in a different direction. So, I guess I'm saying, these blanket statements about what Forrest will or won't do, are just opinions and bad ones at that. No one knows what Forrest will or won't do except one person. Not an exception. Thats probably because its illegal to go there, and it is not in the search area at all. Forrest already has video of people going through the gates. Its not a blanket statement, he will never respond if a solve is correct or not. He might respond, but he does not say yes or no. Now obviously if you send him a solve at his house, at San Lazaro (which he still has access to and is ILLEGAL to enter without permission), or his parents grave, in other words outside the search area, of course he will say it is not there, he said that many times already. We are talking of places north of Santa Fe, not south
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 16:51:40 GMT -5
There is maybe 100 searchers on the blogs, of the 100,000. This is not a significant sample. But hey if it is found, seven should stop searching 7 are saying it is still there, not found Only 1 said it isn' there
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Post by kpro on May 6, 2017 17:26:45 GMT -5
Another Exception: I sent Forrest my solution to San Lazaro. He responded, and I thought he was going to have a heart attack or stroke out. He very clearly told me that my solve was not correct, and he pointed me in a different direction. So, I guess I'm saying, these blanket statements about what Forrest will or won't do, are just opinions and bad ones at that. No one knows what Forrest will or won't do except one person. Not an exception. Thats probably because its illegal to go there, and it is not in the search area at all. Forrest already has video of people going through the gates. Its not a blanket statement, he will never respond if a solve is correct or not. He might respond, but he does not say yes or no. Now obviously if you send him a solve at his house, at San Lazaro (which he still has access to and is ILLEGAL to enter without permission), or his parents grave, in other words outside the search area, of course he will say it is not there, he said that many times already. We are talking of places north of Santa Fe, not south This was my thought before I read it.
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Post by kpro on May 6, 2017 17:27:35 GMT -5
There is maybe 100 searchers on the blogs, of the 100,000. This is not a significant sample. But hey if it is found, seven should stop searching 7 are saying it is still there, not found Only 1 said it isn' there Seven was an auto correct, should say everyone. Everyone stop searching please! 😜
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 18:01:03 GMT -5
LOL
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Post by razorback on May 7, 2017 0:25:49 GMT -5
Another Exception: I sent Forrest my solution to San Lazaro. He responded, and I thought he was going to have a heart attack or stroke out. He very clearly told me that my solve was not correct, and he pointed me in a different direction. So, I guess I'm saying, these blanket statements about what Forrest will or won't do, are just opinions and bad ones at that. No one knows what Forrest will or won't do except one person. Not an exception. Thats probably because its illegal to go there, and it is not in the search area at all. Forrest already has video of people going through the gates. Its not a blanket statement, he will never respond if a solve is correct or not. He might respond, but he does not say yes or no. Now obviously if you send him a solve at his house, at San Lazaro (which he still has access to and is ILLEGAL to enter without permission), or his parents grave, in other words outside the search area, of course he will say it is not there, he said that many times already. We are talking of places north of Santa Fe, not south You keep putting out bad poop! Forrest will and does give hints to people by e-mail if they send him partial solutions or full solutions, or just ask him a question. Apparently he hasn't given you one, otherwise you wouldn't keep saying he won't. Searchers, you don't know what Forrest will respond with until you try. He gave me 2 solid hints by e-mail. I didn't ask for them and they were things I had never seen in any of the blogs. Just send him your thoughts, he may surprise you, like he did me.
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Post by klipper on May 7, 2017 2:35:15 GMT -5
You keep putting out bad poop! Forrest will and does give hints to people by e-mail if they send him partial solutions or full solutions, or just ask him a question. Apparently he hasn't given you one, otherwise you wouldn't keep saying he won't. Searchers, you don't know what Forrest will respond with until you try. He gave me 2 solid hints by e-mail. I didn't ask for them and they were things I had never seen in any of the blogs. Just send him your thoughts, he may surprise you, like he did me. Thank you razorback. This is exactly what I hope for.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 7:23:28 GMT -5
Not an exception. Thats probably because its illegal to go there, and it is not in the search area at all. Forrest already has video of people going through the gates. Its not a blanket statement, he will never respond if a solve is correct or not. He might respond, but he does not say yes or no. Now obviously if you send him a solve at his house, at San Lazaro (which he still has access to and is ILLEGAL to enter without permission), or his parents grave, in other words outside the search area, of course he will say it is not there, he said that many times already. We are talking of places north of Santa Fe, not south You keep putting out bad poop! Forrest will and does give hints to people by e-mail if they send him partial solutions or full solutions, or just ask him a question. Apparently he hasn't given you one, otherwise you wouldn't keep saying he won't. Searchers, you don't know what Forrest will respond with until you try. He gave me 2 solid hints by e-mail. I didn't ask for them and they were things I had never seen in any of the blogs. Just send him your thoughts, he may surprise you, like he did me. Sure he did. Care to prove it?
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 7:25:18 GMT -5
You keep putting out bad poop! Forrest will and does give hints to people by e-mail if they send him partial solutions or full solutions, or just ask him a question. Apparently he hasn't given you one, otherwise you wouldn't keep saying he won't. Searchers, you don't know what Forrest will respond with until you try. He gave me 2 solid hints by e-mail. I didn't ask for them and they were things I had never seen in any of the blogs. Just send him your thoughts, he may surprise you, like he did me. Thank you razorback. This is exactly what I hope for. Don't listen to him unless he can prove it, he can't of course. In any case, Forrest does not help people like he is suggesting, in fact his comment is making it look like the chase is rigged. That is not a wise thing to say around here!
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 7:40:02 GMT -5
I wouldn't have thunk it, but they do (people) try to mislead. Sad sacks I say. But what they fail to realize that forrest thought of everything, and so should we. Yep, there are plenty of people who would do that, I can think of a few right here You are right, the blaze is not something like a cairn IMO. It is definately not a carving in a tree because they don't last. I doubt it is a stick figure, an omega, or an FF. Forrest is not stupid, he knows some clown will run around carving those things into trees, rocks, etc. The blaze is much bigger and would only be obvious if you know what you are looking for, and based on his comment (paraphrasing) "It would not be practical to move the blaze" hints that it is something large. This is not my blaze, but the "Flaming Gorge" would be a natural blaze that will not be moving due to some bonehead.
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Post by heidini on May 7, 2017 11:03:56 GMT -5
I emailed Forrest on a BOTG. I posted a picture of me wearing my yellow jacket and he said watch out because bears like yellow. It was pretty funny.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 11:13:21 GMT -5
I emailed Forrest on a BOTG. I posted a picture of me wearing my yellow jacket and he said watch out because bears like yellow. It was pretty funny. LOL! My funniest email with him was when I joked (there is a bit of truth to it though), "At one time in Texas a barrel of clean water was worth more than a barrel of oil." He replied something like "I just checked the price of oil, want to trade a barrel of your oil for my water?" Hehe I just thought of something, I should have replied saying "Sure, I will send you a barrel of oil for just the location of your warm waters and where they halt." Heh!
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 11:55:58 GMT -5
Oh by the way... From IG's Fenn quote PDF, a reminder in BOLD:
Normally I would not comment on what is said on the blogs but since there seems to be so much acrimony on two of them I will.
First, I do not own Dal’s blog and he has never been in my employ. I sometimes send him things and he frequently declines to post them.
Second, I have not said that a searcher was closer than 12’ from the treasure. It is not likely that anyone would get that close and not find it.
Third, I had not heard of Christ of the Mines Shrine in Silverton, Colorado until many months after I hid the treasure.
Forth, there is some geographical dispute about whether Bandelier National Monument is in the Rocky Mountains but since it is shown on the map in my Too Far to Walk book it must be considered within the search area.
Fifth, I have never consciously misled any searcher or privately given a hint or clue I thought would help someone find the treasure.
Sixth, I think I will be a little let down if someone finds the treasure in the next several years but I will quickly recover. It is out of my hands now.
Seventh, there has been talk about some searchers receiving under-the-table clues that will help them find the treasure. Those accusations are false. I have, A wife, two daughters, two sons-in-laws, seven grandkids, one great grandkid, a cousin, a nephew and his wife. I like all of them better than I like Dal so that makes him 17th on the list to get clues from me. The fact that none of them have found the treasure should speak for itself.
Eighth, I have received word from three ladies who wanted me to know that they are no longer in the search. They have fear of finding the treasure and being branded a harlot. Please folks, let’s try to get the blog conversations out of the gutter.
Ninth, I reserve the right to be wrong once in a while.
There you have it, anyone suggesting they have received hints or clues in private from Fenn is full of it. So lets keep the B.S. off the forum, please?
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Post by goldwatch on May 8, 2017 12:47:51 GMT -5
FF has never sent me an e-mail. I feel slighted. lol
He does seem to be quite a character. My favorite thing to have read about him is how he and his friend Eric Sloane said they wanted to build a covered bridge but their wives wouldn't let them buy a river. LOL.
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