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Post by indigojones on Jun 30, 2020 4:00:16 GMT -5
The canopy of stars was the cover of OUAW, that was the treasure map. He gave us all the map and no one ever knew. If those stars don’t lie directly on your clues, your solve isn’t right Hi lbgoat in a roundabout way you are correct, however it was very complex to discover the ending. The Constellation called 'Triangulum' is discovered in the geometry of place names on the map, it is also on the cover of 'Once Upon a While' as the three main stars, but in larger format. The largest star represents the treasure site itself. The final solution is based on the Zodiac wheel, I have visited the blaze twice. Look for my threads on this current page for some of my discoveries regarding this. indigo |
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Post by astree on Jun 30, 2020 5:28:57 GMT -5
The canopy of stars was the cover of OUAW, that was the treasure map. He gave us all the map and no one ever knew. If those stars don’t lie directly on your clues, your solve isn’t right Hi lbgoat in a roundabout way you are correct, however it was very complex to discover the ending. The Constellation called 'Triangulum' is discovered in the geometry of place names on the map, it is also on the cover of 'Once Upon a While' as the three main stars, but in larger format. The largest star represents the treasure site itself. The final solution is based on the Zodiac wheel, I have visited the blaze twice. Look for my threads on this current page for some of my discoveries regarding this. indigo Im ready to be corrected on this, But it’s my understanding that forrest did not design the cover of the book, nor place the stars in the position they are in? |
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Post by lbkgoat on Jul 1, 2020 6:41:35 GMT -5
I have no doubt that I am correct with the correlation of the stars and clues on my map. The biggest star was where I looked of about 1 year and the area matched the image on page 99. It is the sight of a Native American village and an old farming homestead. The trail that led me there was an undesignated Native American trail. When I laid the constellation over my map it fit like a glove, and opened up the last
clue. It was represented by the fisherman and the last star. Directly under the hook there was a metallic object hidden under some brush. I sent the google earth image to Forrest on 6/3/2020(it’s too far to drive on a hunch). It ended on 6/6! The blaze was visible on GE. The double Omegas, an old 1800s cemetery, the site for a western town are all in this area.
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Post by indigojones on Jul 1, 2020 8:55:44 GMT -5
Hi lbgoat in a roundabout way you are correct, however it was very complex to discover the ending. The Constellation called 'Triangulum' is discovered in the geometry of place names on the map, it is also on the cover of 'Once Upon a While' as the three main stars, but in larger format. The largest star represents the treasure site itself. The final solution is based on the Zodiac wheel, I have visited the blaze twice. Look for my threads on this current page for some of my discoveries regarding this. indigo Im ready to be corrected on this, But it’s my understanding that forrest did not design the cover of the book, nor place the stars in the position they are in? I am not going to correct you on this astree because in the 'Collected Works' book signing video that is indeed what he said. However how come that constellation is revealed in the geometry I worked on on the map by following the clues? And that was before OUAW came out. Also what about the ghosted figures on the cover of 'Once Upon a While' Starting at the bottom left there is a Greek head with a beard whom I believe represents ' Ptolemy' who discovered the constellation of Triangulum and named all of the Zodiac signs. Above him is the head of ' Isaac Newton' who worked on the rainbow, and top right is ' Einstein' and below him the head of a young boy ' Forrest' who is looking to his right at a ghosted lion's head which is 'Leo' Forrest's birth sign. Put together the bold text and it gives you 'Pine Forest' to the right hand side there is a spooky figure that could relate to a 'Phantom' In view of these facts, and if what you say is correct and I cannot dispute what you heard because I heard it too, then the designers of the book were clearly privy to secret information. Therefore it would not be totally Forrest's secret would it. However we know what Forrest has quoted about truth don't we. The fact remains the chest was in a Pine forest somewhere. It is very interesting and thanks for your reply astree. indigo |
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Post by dejoka on Jul 1, 2020 17:19:52 GMT -5
The marketing value of the greatest treasure hunt ever created is diminishing day by day with it's greatest anticlimactic ending ever.
Given f's marketing savvy, one has to wonder, why?
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Post by indigojones on Jul 2, 2020 10:07:19 GMT -5
The marketing value of the greatest treasure hunt ever created is diminishing day by day with it's greatest anticlimactic ending ever. Given f's marketing savvy, one has to wonder, why? Hi dejoka never a truer word spoken. I think the whole thing has ended very shodily with not a care for the searchers themselves or the people who promoted his hunt. I get the feeling that only he mattered and if I was any of those who considered themselves close to him I would now feel I had been used, now goodbye. Very sad indeed. |
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Post by omarandruby on Jul 2, 2020 10:30:29 GMT -5
"anticlimactic ending"
What is the count up to now? How many crooks are trying to sue Forrest? The poor guy will be turning 90 next month, we're still in the middle of a pandemic and 'next of kin' are blaming him for every searcher death. Probably not the Happy Ending Fenn had hoped for.
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Post by Apple on Jul 2, 2020 12:46:43 GMT -5
The marketing value of the greatest treasure hunt ever created is diminishing day by day with it's greatest anticlimactic ending ever. Given f's marketing savvy, one has to wonder, why?
Was it the greatest treasure hunt ever created? I suppose that's subjective, so perhaps to you (and, obviously by virtue of my presence here, of interest to me too). As I've said before, from a general public interest point of view Fenn's treasure hunt was pretty much a failure. It never really captured the general public's imagination despite being featured on national television shows (although I concede to not being on trend across most groups). How many books were sold? How many people spent more than an afternoon's worth of attention on this hunt? I don't know the answer to those questions but I've heard some shockingly low numbers quoted in this forum. Certainly, I'd be hard pressed to classify his hunt as a craze. This may not have been his intent and so measuring by this general public interest yardstick might be unfair.
I'll reserve most of my judgement regarding the treasure hunt to the elegance of the Fenn's ideal solution, which hasn't been provided yet. Of course, elegance is something that may be relatable across individuals but is still very subjective.
I agree that the end of the hunt has been disappointing (so far). However, it's also only been barely a month since it ended. I can't imagine that the general public is on the edge of their seats waiting for the specifics. Perhaps a bit on the Today Show is yet to come, a brief glimmer in the general public's eye before Fenn is just as quickly forgotten (as expressed in TTOTC, being forgotten is exactly what Fenn can hope will not happen, but nevertheless knows will eventually happen).
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Post by goldilocks on Jul 2, 2020 14:48:01 GMT -5
There has been ample time and opportunity for Forrest to make a statement to thank searchers who put time into this and made sacrifices. Yesterday on Dal's site Dal made a statement about wrapping up comments on his site etc. and Forrest thanked Dal. Dal and searchers shared touching words and it's the first time I have felt like it's time to move on. The questions lingering in the back of my mind since this ended so abruptly and uncomfortably was, is there a surprise ending coming, what the heck just happened? Regardless of how this ends there is always room for gratitude. Yes "the poor guy will be turning 90 next month". I am totally sympathetic to this as well as his ailing wife and I actually had hoped Forrest would've stepped back years ago and let the Chase run on it's on. But since he didn't and chose to be highly involved, I don't understand how there isn't anyone - a family member, a friend etc. who could help formulate a statement on Forrest's behalf to bring this ending into a more positive light. It actually didn't have to end this way IMO.
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Post by sangre on Jul 2, 2020 15:37:32 GMT -5
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Post by indulgenceseeker on Jul 2, 2020 15:55:28 GMT -5
Somebody else will figure it out, sooner than later, if the solution is not revealed shortly; the blaze is still there; the next finder will also walk with great purpose and know they're there when they see the blaze. Convincing the search community you're correct? Not sure that's doable.
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Post by sangre on Jul 4, 2020 11:28:04 GMT -5
Somebody else will figure it out, sooner than later, if the solution is not revealed shortly; the blaze is still there; the next finder will also walk with great purpose and know they're there when they see the blaze. Convincing the search community you're correct? Not sure that's doable. exactly. If there is one thing I’ve learned from all of this, it’s that narrow-mindedness is widespread. |
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Post by goldwatch on Jul 4, 2020 11:44:16 GMT -5
Somebody else will figure it out, sooner than later, if the solution is not revealed shortly; the blaze is still there; the next finder will also walk with great purpose and know they're there when they see the blaze. Convincing the search community you're correct? Not sure that's doable. exactly. If there is one thing I’ve learned from all of this, it’s that narrow-mindedness is widespread. It is doable, I believe. But getting proof that convinces people may be another story. That person, the "second finder" if you will, may not have the money to spend on such an excursion for no reward other than "I was the first loser." |
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Post by goldwatch on Jul 4, 2020 11:46:07 GMT -5
Then again, the "First Loser" could ask others to go get the proof. I guess that's possible.
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Post by Apple on Jul 16, 2020 13:09:43 GMT -5
I thank Fenn for the challenge of his puzzle. I reached out to him privately only once, via email, to say as much. I congratulate the guy who solved Fenn’s puzzle and found the treasure. I am happy to hear that someone was actually able to use "the clues in the poem and hints in the Memoir to locate and find the Chest" "in the location [Fenn] left it about ten years ago" (Declaration filed in Arizona court on 6/25/20).
My first impression upon reading TTOTC was "this guy is an idiot." Honestly, I initially found it to be a shockingly bad piece of writing. However, I eventually did as Fenn instructed and "read [his] book again, this time looking for subtle hints that will help solve the clues" (Holly Johnson Interview 7/8/13). On my second and further readings I saw and was impressed by the intricate structure of the book. I realized that I had been very wrong; Fenn had designed something with great care. He was serious about this game.
Fenn does not owe me anything, including the ideal solution. I am saddened that the ideal solution as Fenn intended throughout his many writings may not be forthcoming. I am curious about his ideal solution, as it feels like a book, movie, or other story with a missing ending. The draw of the puzzle is the potential to discover the solution; without a solution, and now no way to confirm a solution, there can be no satisfying closure.
Similarly, the man who solved the puzzle and found the chest does not owe me anything. I would be grateful if he provided his solution and told his story. I am very curious about the solution and, if he decides to reveal it, encourage him to take whatever time is necessary to ensure that it is done in an engaging way.
I accepted on faith that Fenn created an elegant puzzle that was solvable and led to a treasure. I accepted on faith that someone found this treasure and actually solved the puzzle in the way Fenn intended. The court declaration cited above provides a bit of evidence that my faith in Fenn was not misplaced.
Finally, I want to thank everyone else, beyond the creator and winner, for playing the game along side me. |
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